Talk:El Salvador national football team/GA2

GA Reassessment

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Starts GA Reassessment. The reassessment will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

 

Instructions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_reassessment

Result: Delisted. Legitimate concerns, no opposition or improvements made; Matters raised in the reassessment were not addressed. These matters will remain valid until the next GA Review, whereupon they must be addressed first. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:06, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

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Observations

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

• HTML document size: 820 kB
• Prose size (including all HTML code): 75 kB
• References (including all HTML code): 110 kB
• Wiki text: 135 kB
• Prose size (text only): 37 kB (6304 words) "readable prose size"
• References (text only): 14 kB
• Page design and layout compares favourably with other pages in Category:Central American national association football teams

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

• Infobox ranking appears to be out. https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/SLV gives a lowest ranking of 156
• Reference 4 goes to a sports website. It does not go to the website of the governing body, Salvadoran Football Federation?
• Reference 8 is a dead link.
• Reference 9 is available on the Wayback Machine.
• 1940's has a citation needed tag about Dr. Luis Rivas Palacios as president.
• 1950's has no citations for any matches except the win against Mexico. Needs sources.
• The paragraph on the 1970 World Cup and the Football War does not have sufficient citations. There are a lot of facts in that para with no citations, except reference to a book about War and Treaties?
• jostling the Bermudan linesman, Keith Dunstan,has a [citation needed] tag.
• 1980's - there are no citations for the World Cup qualification in the first paragraph.
• Reference 31 is a dead link.
• Reference 33 is incorrect, it is for a USSR - El Salvador match, not a match against Hungary.
• goal score in match against Hungary has a citation needed tag: encourage them to score more.[citation needed]. Find it or remove the statement.
• ditto could not afford to bring a full squad.[citation needed]
• ditto The remaining uniforms were said to have been taken away by the association.[citation needed]
• The paragraph about the World Cup campaign in Spain has 5 citation needed tags and insufficient references. It needs a lot of work.
• In the 2000's, reporting of who scored goals in matches is not relevant. This article is about the team, not the individuals, it is not a personality top scorer list. This is out of style with the remainder of the article. Remove individual goal scorers.
• drop with goals from Ramón Sánchez and Dennis Alas.
• drop with goals from Lázár Szentes and Ferenc Csongrádi for Hungary and two goals from Luis Ramírez Zapata for El Salvador.
• drop after a goal by Roger Espinoza
• drop with two goals by Osael Romero.
• References 60, 61 to FIFA are dead links.
• drop with goals scored by Rodolfo Zelaya (2) and Christian Javier Bautista.
• drop with goals from Bautista, Luis Anaya (2) and Xavier García
• drop with goals by Víctor Turcios, Steve Purdy, Jaime Alas and Herbert Sosa.
• drop The last of these was the thousandth goal scored by the national team this is not a relevant statistic.
• this is poor expression: earned him the wrath of the public.[citation needed] Who earned the wrath of the public? Where is the citation?
• All the material about the new coach Juan de Dios Castillo does not have citations.
• The entire paragraph for 2020's has no citations. It is also written in a style reminiscent of puffery and MOS:PEACOCK. This section needs reliable sources and rewriting.
• Reliable sources are needed for all the content in the first paragraph of match fixing.
• Reference 78 does not address the topic. An archival link is needed.
• The Borussia squad listing is irrelevant material for a page about the El Salvador national football team. Drop all of it.
• Reference 80, 81 (on the Wayback Machine) are both dead links.

1. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

• There are 13 citation needed tags on this page.
• The Early history section is good in its coverage. Online sources are excellent.
• Updates to the page tend to focus on current squad and recent call ups, top ten appearances, game history, player statistics, like this.
• Little attention is paid to history in page edits. One has to scroll back to 2013 to find detailed attention given to the history and activities of this team.
• It is clear that the current national squad has been transformed into a much younger team over the past few years. There is no coverage of this.
• There is no coverage of the recent strong results and wins in the current national campaigns. Surely 7-0, 4-0 wins deserve coverage???

1. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

• Neutral point of view is presented in the article.

1. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

• Page created 26 September 2004
• Page has 6,574 by 1,659 editors
• Links to this page = 2,084
• External links = 123
• 90 day page views = 61,883
• Daily page views average 680
• article is currently class (Listed September 28, 2011)
• Examination of page history reveals a lot of IP address edits, mobile edits.
• History is slanted towards the current team updates, recent call-ups, player statistics.
• No edit warring is observed in page history except reversion of unexplained edits. Page is considered stable.

1. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

• Page has 2 images
• File:FESFUT logo.svg = SVG (non free logo ) used with specified application qualifies as fair use under the Copyright law of the United States.
• File:Vista aerea Estadio Cusca.jpg = Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
• This page could use more images. The link to Commons reveals resources are available.

1. Notifying Editors:

• Page Creator Jaime070996 has not contributed significantly since 7 July 2019
• Editor Dennisruizsv
• Editor SpinnDoctor
• Editor Intruder007
• Editor BKReruns
• Editor Danielmordor
• A total of five involved editors were able to be notified.

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1. Overall:

• Individual scorers are not necessary and belong in match reports, which are included in the schedule section commencing 2020
• This page would benefit from having the Internet Archive bot run over it to repair all the dead links.
• There is poor sourcing in recent history with 13 citation needed tags on the page, most notably in the 1980 section, which has been poorly sourced.
• The 2020's section, Match fixing also lack proper sources.
• Recent coaching and national selection has resulted a rather large transformation to a much younger team with different skillbase and talents. This is not covered in this article.
• This article will not retain its Good Article status unless a lot of work is done on it. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:19, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

 

 On hold for three weeks.

 

Result

Result: Delisted. Legitimate concerns, no opposition or improvements made; Matters raised in the reassessment were not addressed. These matters will remain valid until the next GA Review, whereupon they must be addressed first. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:06, 24 July 2021 (UTC)