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Former good articleEl Salvador national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
May 14, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
September 28, 2011Good article nomineeListed
July 24, 2021Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

best Win Ever edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

How did the player score 13 goals for the team if it was their first win at 5-0? I don't see how that works.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resitate (talk • contribs) 20:22, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Manual references edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I just added a reference on some material I added to the article, but it didn't come out correctly. Apparently the references here were done by hand, i.e. without the <references /> tag. I've never seen it that way before. I didn't want to disturb anything, so I didn't attempt to fix my reference. - PhilipR (talk) 07:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

JGA2k could you have the official logo be put in —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime070996 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

Edit request edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

{{Edit semi-protected}} —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaime070996 (talk • contribs)

  Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 22:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
{{Edit semi-protected}}

This article needs semi-protection.

  Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Salvio Let's talk about it! 23:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Lede section suggestions and rewrite edit

Latest comment: 13 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

I was asked by Jaime070996 (talk · contribs) to help rewrite and expand the WP:LEDE, so here goes;

How I normally try to write a good lede;

The first statement, about what it is, is very important. The current one is not too bad, really;

The El Salvador national football team represents El Salvador in international association football and is controlled by the El Salvador Football Federation

The only issue being the duplication of "El Salvador" 3 times, which is tricky to avoid.

For the rest of the lede, I usually try to read through the whole article, trying to take the absolute essential points from each part. I'll show my notes below. The parts in (brackets) are 'possibly' not worth mentioning, maybe excess details;

History edit

Began in 1921 (Gustavo "Taviche" Marroquin scored 5 goals against to-be-rivals Honduras) Competed in two World Cup competitions, 1970 and 1982. (2010 FESFUT suspended by FIFA due to government interference)

Competitive record edit

Concaf 10 times; '63 and '81 runners-up; 77 3rd place; (2002 and 2003 qtr finals) CCCF champs in 1943, 2nd in '41 and '61 Also UNCAF (3rd x 3), Pan American Games recordand Olympics Central American and Caribbean Games 2 x Gold

Kit edit

Maybe a v brief mention - colors, describe maybe?

Squad/callups edit

The only note, really, is - 21 man squad

Unless there is some extra-specially-notable player, in which case, they might be worth noting

Stats edit

Top scorers; Jorge "Mágico" González 41 Raúl Díaz Arce 39 Most appearances: Luis Guevara Mora 89

Staff edit

Manager José Luis Rugamas

Honours edit

- covered above

Using the above logic, and my own judgement/wording, I've rewritten the lede as;

The El Salvador national football team represents El Salvador in international association football and is controlled by the FESFUT. After the formation in 1921, the player Gustavo "Taviche" Marroquin scored 5 goals against the Honduras, beginning a lengthy rivalty.

The team competed in two World Cup competitions, in 1970 and 1982. They were CCCF champions in 1943, and second-placed in 1941 and 1961. They have competed in the CONCACAF Gold Cup ten times, finishing as runners-up in 1963 and 1981. La Selecta also competed in the UNCAF Nations Cup, the Pan American Games, the Olympics, and have achieved two gold medals in the Central American and Caribbean Games.

They play in a mostly sky-blue kit, which from 2008 included the Mitre logo.

The top-scoring player is Jorge "Mágico" González (41 goals), the next closest being Raúl Díaz Arce with 39. Luis Guevara Mora is the player with the most caps, at 89. The manager is José Luis Rugamas.

I have done my best, but I'm sure that this is not entirely accurate; however, I place it as lede because I hope it is better than the current one.

In particular, please note that the lede should adequately summarize the article, but should not include information that is not elaborated upon elsewhere.

For that specific reason, I have not included mention of the Football War - this should certainly be in the article, but as it is not, in my talk of rewriting the lede, I could not help with that.

Best,  Chzz  ►  07:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)Reply


Other Competition edit

On the "Other tournament records" section the Copa Centroamericana and the CCCF Championship Record are in a table. Do you thing it would be better to put the "Central American and Caribbean Games," "Olympic Games record," and "Pan American Games record" as a table to? I would love to do it if you let me.

External links modified edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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Name : Is it to be translated as El Salvador or Salvador ? edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Specifically as applies to the national team, is El Salvador to be translated as El Salvador or Salvador?Srednuas Lenoroc (talk) 05:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Fair use rationale for File:FESFUT logo.svg edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion
 

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GA request edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

I have put this up as the history of the page hasn't been updated since 2013 and their is sections in the article that isn't cited. An example of this is the fact that the CONCACAF Championship record summary doesn't have any citations in that particular section of the article. Matt294069 (talk) 00:55, 13 April 2019 (UTC)Reply

@Jaime070996: Could you look at this. It doesn't seem like much is needed (an update and some sources). AIRcorn (talk) 23:15, 30 November 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Matt294069: I agree with you, this article does need an update and also has some incorrectly formatted references and many dead links. It could also use some images too. Matthewishere0 (talk) 15:17, 18 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Good Article Reassessment edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Result: Delisted. Legitimate concerns, no opposition or improvements made; Matters raised in the reassessment were not addressed. These matters will remain valid until the next GA Review, whereupon they must be addressed first. --Whiteguru (talk) 06:08, 24 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Move discussion in progress edit

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Move discussion in progress edit

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