Talk:Diamond grinding of pavement
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editThere must be some! This is a little one sided. Rich Farmbrough, 21:31, 12 July 2010 (UTC).
- I imagine the cost of the bits must be a factor for a start. And why is this article called "Diamond grinding" when it's only about one aspect of the technique. What about grinding of floors, stones, engineering ceramics etc? It either needs to be expanded and the lead paragraph reworded, or renamed "Diamond grinding of pavement". Richerman (talk) 01:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- If you look at the revision history, you will see that it was originally called User:Wendyfables/DiamondGrindingofPavement, hence the enboldening in the lead. Thinking about it, this is probably the wrong way around. It should be something like
- I imagine the cost of the bits must be a factor for a start. And why is this article called "Diamond grinding" when it's only about one aspect of the technique. What about grinding of floors, stones, engineering ceramics etc? It either needs to be expanded and the lead paragraph reworded, or renamed "Diamond grinding of pavement". Richerman (talk) 01:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
“ | ==Diamond grinding of pavement==
Diamond grinding is a pavement preservation technique that corrects a variety of surface imperfections on both concrete and asphalt pavements. |
” |
- Yes, that's right. If it's going to have the name "Diamond grinding" then "Diamond grinding of pavement" should be a section of the article rather than making it sound like it's the only use for the technique. The lead should be more general, giving scope for others to add in something about the other uses. Richerman (talk) 09:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Cool. I have moved the page. The move process automatically creates a redirect so I have replaced that redirect with a more general stub on diamond grinding. I don't know much about the subject so it is currently pretty empty. Yaris678 (talk) 10:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that's the most logical way to do it, thanks for sorting it out. I don't know much about it myself weither but I could probably expand the stub a bit with a bit of oinformation from the web. I'll put it on my to do list. Richerman (talk) 13:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Cool. I have moved the page. The move process automatically creates a redirect so I have replaced that redirect with a more general stub on diamond grinding. I don't know much about the subject so it is currently pretty empty. Yaris678 (talk) 10:31, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right. If it's going to have the name "Diamond grinding" then "Diamond grinding of pavement" should be a section of the article rather than making it sound like it's the only use for the technique. The lead should be more general, giving scope for others to add in something about the other uses. Richerman (talk) 09:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- The lack of perspective make this read like a promotional article for the Diamond Grooving Union of North America (if such a thing exists!) I don't have any figures so I haven't edited the article. By reducing the surface area in contact with the tyre, grooving might make it harder to brake and thus increase braking distance - unless the roughened surface increases skid resistance - are any statistics available? Stating that grooves are able to compensate for bald tyres is bad logic, IMHO, as in many countries a vehicle would not be legally safe to go on the road with bad tyres. Its also possible that the roughened surface would increase fuel consumption. Grooves are a very scary surface to ride on if you are on two wheels as they fight against your steering - I don't know if anyone has done research on the accident consequences of this. Grooving might be of benefit during light rain, but in heavy rainfall it must be a problem unless they cut perpendicular to the direction of travel to take away the water (which is more expensive and less convenient to the contractor) And I would also think that it opens up the carriageway to freeze/thaw damage from ice and snow in colder climates. Ephebi (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- They all seem like good points to me, but I wouldn't know where to get sources to confirm them, or otherwise. Perhaps we should ask a WikiProject. Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways? Yaris678 (talk) 09:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't just on two wheels where it can cause steering problems. After part of I-275 running through Anderson Township near Cincinnati, Ohio was resurfaced in concrete, they diamond-ground it after getting a lot of complaints about increased noise from residents. It's been years, and I still vaguely hate driving down that section of highway: the grooves are very visibly NOT straight: very visible 'waves' in them. And even in a car, you can feel them in the steering. It's subtle, but it definitely creates a noticeable side-to-side 'jiggle' that I find quite unnerving nearly every single time I drive it. When I first noticed it, right after they did it, I was afraid something in my steering had broken, but eventually figured out it was the grooves. I keep wondering if someday when it's slippery out, if that might cause someone to lose control, but it hasn't happened that I'm aware of. -Graptor 74.215.50.248 (talk) 12:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- They all seem like good points to me, but I wouldn't know where to get sources to confirm them, or otherwise. Perhaps we should ask a WikiProject. Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways? Yaris678 (talk) 09:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- The lack of perspective make this read like a promotional article for the Diamond Grooving Union of North America (if such a thing exists!) I don't have any figures so I haven't edited the article. By reducing the surface area in contact with the tyre, grooving might make it harder to brake and thus increase braking distance - unless the roughened surface increases skid resistance - are any statistics available? Stating that grooves are able to compensate for bald tyres is bad logic, IMHO, as in many countries a vehicle would not be legally safe to go on the road with bad tyres. Its also possible that the roughened surface would increase fuel consumption. Grooves are a very scary surface to ride on if you are on two wheels as they fight against your steering - I don't know if anyone has done research on the accident consequences of this. Grooving might be of benefit during light rain, but in heavy rainfall it must be a problem unless they cut perpendicular to the direction of travel to take away the water (which is more expensive and less convenient to the contractor) And I would also think that it opens up the carriageway to freeze/thaw damage from ice and snow in colder climates. Ephebi (talk) 08:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
another perspective to add to the article would be diamond grinding for the following applications:
1. diamond grinding pavement for inlay of pavement markings and inlayed delineation such as raised pavement markings in snow laden areas`
2. diamond grinding pavement for rumble strips
this article would benefit from additional perspectives and research comparisons on sound levels and impact on quality of life in communities near highways when a shift is made from rubberized asphalt treatment to diamond grinding of pavement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocotillo-blossom (talk • contribs) 18:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
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