Talk:David Attenborough/Archive 3

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Archive 3

Complete List of Video Works?

Hello. I've been searching for a complete list of David Attenborough's video works and in order. You do have a section called "Bibliography", but it's in no way complete. Also, it seems he has made a lot of videos recently too. Can someone here do that? 12.46.101.25 (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Issue: Should the lead specifically mention his primetime emmy awards?

The lead currently mentions his emmies for narration, which I don't think is more notable than many of his other honorary degrees and awards. For instance, we don't mention in the lead that he was knighted by the queen, or was awarded the Champion of the Earth award from the United Nations Environment Programme. Winning an emmy is pretty weak tea next to those awards or his 37 honorary degrees from British universities. It arguably trivializes him to say his most notable award was in winning a hollywood popularity contest along with these people. Objections to deleting mention of his emmies from the lead? Efbrazil (talk) 03:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Ultimately he’s a broadcaster. That’s what he’s best known for. And an Emmy for his broadcasting is notable, as is the BAFTA which also appears. If we didn’t include such awards then the lede section of articles of those in broadcasting would look very different. CH Ahens (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

The BAFTA I'm fine with as it highlights how long his career is and is an achievement nobody else will have. Maybe there's a middle ground here, where we mention the emmy but combine it with the prior sentence, like this:

Over his life he has collected dozens of honorary degrees and awards, including 3 Emmies for Outstanding Narration.

Does that work for you? Note that we mention his wins in 2018 and 2019 but he also won in 2020. Efbrazil (talk) 19:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Change made, hopefully no objections. Efbrazil (talk) 18:16, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

To add to article

To add to this article: mention of Attenborough's new BBC series Wild Isles. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:23, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Is there genuinely a 6th episode at all? Google gives conflicting information, not to mention the fact the filmography page for Sir Attenborough as it stands, lists 'Wild Isles' as being a 5 episode, 60 minute series. Lafi90 (talk) 21:42, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

nbnb — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7C:6A02:7300:64C2:6A3A:248C:945F (talk) 13:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

sir

he is sir david attenborough not just david attenborugh. Art3mist6 (talk) 10:00, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

We don't put pre-nominals into article titles. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Image

The current image isn't the best so I've created cropped a images onto Wikimedia Commons. Do you think we should change the image? My images probably aren't worthy for the main image, but here they are if anyone is interested in improvements:

1. File:Sir David Attenborough and Bence Mate (cropped).jpg
2. File:Robert Jenrick welcomes David Attenborough to HM Treasury (cropped).jpg (not formal enough)
3. File:David Attenborough arkive.org (cropped).jpg (this one isn't great)
4. File:Bærekraftsprisen 2018 (cropped).jpg
5. File:1278128502 Premio Tecnosol (cropped).jpg
6. File:David Attenborough at Great Barrier Reef (cropped).jpg (way too pixelated but worth mentioning)

—Panamitsu (talk) 04:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for taking this on. I like the idea of replacing the lead image, where he looks emotionally flat and dishevelled. Unfortunately, all the suggested replacements are much worse quality. Looking through them in order:

1. There's a weird light shining on the left side of his profile and it looks like a tear is under his right eye. It also would need more cropping as the thing he is holding is a distraction.
2. Low resolution and he's squinting in the sun too much.
3. He has the nicest pose, but resolution is really too low.
4. Also will be low resolution if cropped to his face.
5. A bit blurry and posed, but perhaps the best trade off between quality and character.
6. Very low resolution.

I'm disappointed that there's nothing better out there in the public domain. The guy has to be one of the most photographed individuals of all time. Efbrazil (talk) 22:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Climate control

Just a thought or a reminder that while our planet is warming is there a possibility that we ( the human race) can refreeze our Glacier’s by using the 3” black balls that are currently being use in California re; Los Angeles drinking water to block out the sunlight , in Los Angeles there used to stop bacteria and the photosynthesis process but by introducing the same balls to the melting streams, rivers and lakes we can refreeze the fresh water before it reaches our oceans, slowing the process of global warming, I’m not a smart man , I’m 60 yr old with cancer but if this idea can work, then we owe it to ourselves to try , if it dose work then it’s my foot print in this world I call home Kvn999 (talk) 23:33, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Link "Sir" in infobox?

It has been linked on and off in this page's history—the wikilink was removed in October after having been added in 2018. I couldn't find any significant period of time that it was unlinked since the wikilink was introduced. If we could use the articles of other of British sirs, Elton John and Paul McCartney both have it linked and piped to Knight Bachelor. From what I can tell, Attenborough received the Knight Bachelor award in 1985, so perhaps we should also add a wikilink to the infobox on this article. BhamBoi (talk) 19:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

I boldly made this change on Isaac Newton and Alexander Fleming, but am hesitant to do so here as I am not sure if he is still considered a Knight Bachelor, or if we should link to the article Sir. BhamBoi (talk) 20:07, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

He's both a knight bachelor and knight grand cross of the order of st michael and st george. The award of knight bachelor does not however carry a postnominal. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 04:12, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Then we should link "Sir" to Knight Bachelor at the beginning of his infobox, imo BhamBoi (talk) 04:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

The wikilink has now been removed, against precedence of other Knight Bachelor's articles.

I'm currently on mobile, so navigating is difficult, but in my opinion, the wikilink should be reinstated. BhamBoi (talk) 19:12, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

For reference, the following was cut from Knight Bachelor § Criteria:

<quote>For instance, Sir Michael Gambon, Sir Mo Farah, Sir Derek Jacobi, Sir Anthony Hopkins, Sir Elton John, Sir Michael Caine, Sir Billy Connolly, Sir Barry Gibb and Sir Ian McKellen are Commanders of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (CBE); Sir Patrick Stewart, Sir Cliff Richard, Sir Tom Jones and Sir Van Morrison are Officers of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (OBE); while Sir Paul McCartney, Sir Richard Starkey (Ringo Starr), and Sir Nick Faldo are Members of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire (MBE).</quote>

In all of those articles, "Sir" is linked in the infobox and piped to the Knight Bachelor page.

So, Edward Jocob Philip Smith, I think the precedent is to include the link, and the exceptions you mentioned in your edit summary are just that—exceptions. BhamBoi (talk) 19:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Ok I understand, but I don't think they are exceptions, Rather them having other prefixes such as Rt. Hon. and Excellency, but I see your point. Edward Jocob Philip Smith (talk) 15:09, 12 May 2024 (UTC)