Talk:Crossing of the Rhine (disambiguation)

Not a Dab

As to the page that the accompanying main-namespace page was presumably translated from: I don't care whether or not the French-language WP calls it a Dab. The accompanying pg is not an English-WP Dab, for too many reasons to bother enumerating -- even if a Dab by its former name were needed.
--Jerzy•t 19:11, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Its undergoing treatment to reduce it down to a dab - personally I suspect the middle section on the French wars is superfluous leaving just the WWII event and the barbarians. GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:19, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

    Thanks, Graeme!
    I think you're mostly right about that, tho i notice that reference is made to one crossing, in what i suppose is part of these French wars, at First Stadtholderless Period#The end of the De-Witt regime. Another (hmm ... no, not the same) appears in the middle of Henri de la Tour d'Auvergne, Vicomte de Turenne#The Dutch War.
    My own approach, in any case, is that removal of Dab entries to the corresponding talk page (uh, this one!) is pretty harmless, since colleagues who know of relevant articles or sections can selectively restore removed information without slogging thru the edit history.
--Jerzy•t 09:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Images

The crossing of the Rhine at Tolhuis (now a suburb of Nijmegen) on 12 June 1672 - painting by Adam Frans van der Meulen.

A 'passage of the Rhine' on the south facade of the porte Saint-Denis.

    MoSDab, IIRC (and Dab if not), limits images on Dab pages to things (i think certain maps were used as an example) that are used to ensure readers seeking an article are clear which article is the one they seek.
    The first of these images seems certain to fail that criterion, but i created an entry for the work the second depicts, and for another work likely to be misremembered as "Crossing of the Rhine".
--Jerzy•t 09:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Removed entries

    Besides converted several entries, mentioned above, for crossings where we only mention art works depicting them into lks to our coverage of those works, i removed

* 1673, during the Franco-Dutch War under Vicomte de Turenne

bcz in that regard that bio on him only discusses, at Henri_de_la_Tour d'Auvergne, Vicomte_de Turenne#The_Dutch_War, the crossing by his enemies via Strasbourg; since we do cover that, someone may want to instead write an entry about that crossing (which defeated him).
--Jerzy•t 09:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
     The following removed entries lead to no information on "Crossing of the Rhine" in the sense that is related to them:

**By French troops in 1794 near Düsseldorf

**18 April 1797, by French Revolutionary forces leading to the Battle of Neuwied.

**The crossing (between 27 April and 2nd May 1800) of a French force under Jean Victor Marie Moreau which then fought the Austrians at the Battle of Stockach.

(Concerning Operation Plunder:)

**The battle honour "Rhine Crossing" given to British units that took part.

--Jerzy•t 09:45, 10 August 2010 (UTC)