Talk:Constitution Party of North Carolina

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Average Ninja in topic Restoration

Restoration

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@David Gerard: You reverted the restoration changes by asking to take to DRV. Is it because you found the new changes controversial, necessiating DRV, or is this the process you follow for redirects created as a result of an AfD? Jay 💬 14:42, 29 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

fair enough that the AFD was a while ago. Though looking at the text as it was, I honestly thought it was just promotional. It seriously lacked independent third-party mainstream WP:RSes - it was substantially primary sources, fringe blogs and sources found generally unreliable and noted as such at WP:RSP such as New American. "Independent Political Report" seems to be a blog, and has been ill-regarded at WP:RSN, though that was a while ago. The Star Trek Blog is also unlikely to count as evidence of notability. Is there actually evidence that the NC branch of the party has sufficient demonstrable notability to rate a separate article and not just a redirect? Keeping in mind that notability is not WP:INHERITed from the main party - David Gerard (talk) 17:07, 30 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
My attention was drawn to this page at WP:Requests for undeletion#Constitution Party of North Carolina, and the reason for my post was purely the process part of the reverting and pointing to DRV, following the attempt to restore and modify the article based on current updates. Which is why I wanted your view on the process and the updated content (not necessarily the older content). If you feel DRV is not necessary, you may participate at Talk:Constitution Party (United States)#Discussing the Unmerging of the Constitution Party of North Carolina from the National Party's Article. Jay 💬 06:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
This would be a much easier keep if there was actually RS coverage. Here's what I've found:
  • [1] 2018: approved to be on ballot (a pile of coverage of this in local RSes)
  • [2] 2021: removed from ballot because it didn't have enough supporters (AP, so a solid RS)
  • various reports of candidates running in the years between.
Is this all the CP NC has in proper sources? - David Gerard (talk) 09:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I was also gonna add information about the party filing Articles of impeachment against Roy Cooper back in 2020 and information about the party conventions the party has held in previous years (including the upcoming 2023 party convention). Average Ninja (talk) 11:23, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
did those make it to independent RSes though? It needs more than primary sources. Political party articles have to justify themselves the same way any organisation article does under Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies).
I saw some RS coverage of their successful fight against NC's "sore loser" law, that gets a possible article up to a few more sentences ... - David Gerard (talk) 15:39, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
There was some coverage about demands for impeachment against Roy Cooper back in 2020. Though the coverage about that was mainly led by ReOpenNC, which I don't believe is related to the Constitution Party. Both groups did seek to demand removal of the governor around the same time in response to the governor's mask mandates, which both groups claimed was unconstitutional. Average Ninja (talk) 21:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply