Talk:Cobweb painting

Copyright

The history section has been rewritten following a stated copyright infringement. I noted originally that no 'bot' regarded the text as an infringement. Rosser Gruffydd 09:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. :) I appreciate your working on this (I found out about the issue at the copyright problems board talk page), but I'm afraid that this article continues to closely paraphrase in a way that is not consistent with Wikipedia's practices. For an example of close paraphrasing, consider the following:

The source says:

The cobwebs usually came from Agelenidae "Funnel-Web" spiders, whose webs were gathered, layered and wound to form a delicate fabric. The material for the two library portraits, in particular, was then stretched over cardboard to make an oval window mat.

The article says:

The cobwebs used for the 16th century Austrain example came from Agelenidae funnel-web spiders, whose webs were gathered, layered and wound to form a delicate fabric, then stretched over cardboard to make an oval window mat.

To make the problem more clear, I have bolded content that is precisely copied, although some words have been removed.

For another example, the same source says:

One painting depicts Phillipine Welser (1527-1580), a celebrated beauty who secretly married Archduke Ferdinand II of Tyrol and settled near Innsbruck in Schloss Ambras.

The article says:

Philippine Welser (1527-1580), was a celebrated beauty who secretly married Archduke Ferdinand II of Tyrol and settled near Innsbruck, living in the Schloss Ambras.

Again, I have bolded content that is precisely copied, although a few words have been added. Even the comma, which is grammatically correct in the source, is copied to the derivative.

While facts are not copyrightable, creative elements of presentation - including both structure and language - are. We are not able to copy from external sources except in very limited circumstances; see Wikipedia:Copy-paste. Creative content such as this copied from non-free sources must be presented as direct quotations, used in accordance with non-free content policy and guideline.

The essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing contains some suggestions for rewriting that may help avoid these issues. The article Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches, while about plagiarism rather than copyright concerns, also contains some suggestions for reusing material from sources that may be helpful, beginning under "Avoiding plagiarism".

Alternatively, if the material can be verified to be public domain or compatible licensed, or if permission is provided, we can use the original text with proper attribution. In accordance with Wikipedia:Plagiarism, this requires more than citing the source - explicit copying must be acknowledged. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

can we not get a picture of a cobwebb painting?

rather than just pictures of spiders — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.173.210.105 (talk) 10:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)