Talk:Coach (carriage)

history

(at first, sorry for my bad english)

but in german and italien wikipedia,they write the first transport waggon, simmilar like coaches, came from ancient rome rome epire, but after the year 450 they didn't use this, or had forget this technique. (dont know why)

77.185.106.8 (talk) 21:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

The lead section

Too long per guidelines. ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 14:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Merge?

There is another page that seems to deal with this topic here. 71.37.216.172 (talk) 05:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Discussion over at carriage article

Please see and comment at:

• Talk:Carriage#Differentiation between carriage and coach in lead
• Talk:Carriage#Image

Thank you,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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Most words can have variant meanings over time, no need to note this in the first few words of the article.

The tile of this article already notes that it is talking about the animal-drawn vehicle, which is obviously the original usage of the word. There is no need to add the word “originally” in the lead. Qwirkle (talk) 03:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Footmen

The idea that coaches were universally “accompanied by footmen” is frankly ludicrous. Qwirkle (talk) 03:53, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

You don’t like my corrections

Alas, @Eddaido:, for your work to be a correction, it would have to be correct. As mentioned above, the idea that coaches always had footmen is laughable. Qwirkle (talk) 02:10, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

The first paragraph Before and After

Changes and the reasons for making them

deletions:

• Usually - a coach is always closed, being closed makes it a coach

No. Historically, what makes a coach a coach is a suspended body. cf. carosse

• with
• harnessed as a team how else might they be linked to the coach? meaningless and so superfluous

Depends on the reading audience, I would think.

• and/or one or more see postilion and see the circumstances in which they are used — very special occasions for the parade of very precious passengers. Did the particular editor mean footman (or any other passenger strong enough to take charge of the horses from the ground)

No. Postillions were also used in various circumstances because they were easier to train. More true for artillery, I suppose.

• It had what is it? it is a coach

Dead obvious in context.

• with generally a coach must have seats — it carries passengers

No. completely removable box benches were also used on passenger vehicles.

• and for superfluous
• a small usually elevated seat in front the driver’s seat has to be up high in front unless the vehicle is going to travel at a walking pace

...and? Does the reader know that?

• term strange pompous word, word is better

I will leave as an exercise to the reader whether someone capable of writing..no, ....typing “the parade of precious passengers” has any business using the word “pompous”

• with differentiations based on use, location and size. pompous

...ditto

replacements:

• passenger-carrying vehicle or coaches are built to carry passengers
• usually drawn by one horse can pull a coach but it would be very slow
• occasionally accompanied by
• A coach has doors in the
• has a seat in front raised up high to give good vision The coachman or driver is in charge of a procedure dangerous to life and limb and animals
• It is often
• word
• depending on how the vehicle is to be used

@Qwirkle: I'm curious to see your response. Eddaido (talk) 03:21, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Interleaved above. Qwirkle (talk) 04:25, 25 August 2020 (UTC)