Talk:City of Darkness (novel)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mccapra in topic Issues as of December 2020

Long plot edit

I’ve stripped the plot summary down to half its length and removed Template:Long plot. Feel free to re-add (preferably with clarification on the talk page) if you still find the plot needs to be shorter or more concise. --Michael-stanton (talk) 19:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Issues as of December 2020 edit

I see that two issues with the article were pointed out today, unfortunately with no details. I have therefore dropped the author a message on their talk page, asking for clarification on the two points:

  • This article needs additional citations for verification: For the plot, the source is quite obviously the work itself—do we have to specify that for each work? Then there’s the background, where I believe I have taken care not to include any unsourced material. Could someone point out in more detail (preferably on the talk page for the article) where citations are needed?
  • The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for books: One of the criteria is that the book is, or has been, the subject of instruction at one or more schools. The work in question appears to be, or have been, standard literature in some German schools since at least the late 1980s, as I found out through multiple online comments. (Incidentally, I picked my copy from a trash can at school.) I have so far not found (or looked for) information on other countries. If additional evidence or research is needed to back this point, please let me know.

--Michael-stanton (talk) 19:37, 25 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

The issues with sourcing are that sources 1-5 aren’t about the book at all, they’re about background and related book. I can’t access ref 6 but even if it is fine, that’s still only a single source talking about the subject. We need reviews of this specific book or commentary about it, in order to demonstrate notability. Mccapra (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for clarifying. So if I get that correctly, the main issue is notability (the main issue with the sources also being about notability). As for that, see my previous comment: do we need additional research or evidence on this book being used as a subject of instruction? --Michael-stanton (talk) 15:13, 27 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Evidence that the book was in the curriculum would definitely be a good things yes, along with any other critical commentary about it. Mccapra (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)Reply