Talk:Chronicle of a Disappearance/GA1

Past GA Review

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Hi, I am reviewing this article for GA. It sounds like an extremely interesting film. I will list my comments below.—Mattisse (Talk) 20:51, 4 July 2009 (UTC) GA review (see here for criteria)

• It is reasonably well written.

• a (prose): In general, this article is well written. A few glitches: see below.

"He has just been through a twelve-year exile in New York City and returns in a now more unfamiliar territory." - do you mean "returns to a now unfamiliar territory" or something similar?

• b (MoS): Conforms to relevant MoS

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

• a (references):

The statement "Notably, it was the first Palestinian movie to receive national release in the United States" does not seem to be supported by the source.

• b (citations to reliable sources):
• Many of your sources as excellent, and some could be used more than you do. Some are not reliable:

This is not a reliable source http://www.answers.com/topic/chronicle-of-a-disappearance and even includes this Wikipedia article in it.

Also, imdb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115895/awards can only be used cautiously

There appear to be several sources on line that you have not used, for example:

• "Chronicle of a Disappearance Movie Reviews, Pictures - Rotten Tomatoes". www.rottentomatoes.com. Retrieved 2009-07-04. is considered reliable for movies
• Adams, Sam. "Chronicle of a Disappearance". www.citypaper.net. Retrieved 2009-07-04.
• Rock, Lindsey. "Offscreen.com :: Chronicle of a Disappearance: The Scared and The Mundane - Volume 11, Issue 5". www.offscreen.com. Retrieved 2009-07-04.
• Brennan, Sandra. "Chronicle of a Disappearance > Overview - AllMovie". www.allmovie.com. Retrieved 2009-07-04.

• c (OR): No OR

• It is broad in its coverage.

a (major aspects):

The article never says what the Palestinian experience is. For example, one of your sources says, "What he creates is a Palestinian's sense of marginalization as well as pride in a series of vignettes, some dryly amusing, others expressing powerful emotions." There needs to be a summary statement like this for the theme. Also, there needs to be some description of what the historical situation is so that that theme of the movie is put into a context for the general reader.

b (focused):

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

• Fair representation without bias: Neutral

• It is stable.

• No edit wars etc.: Stable

• It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

• a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

• Overall:

  Pass/Fail: Fail

• In general, this is a well written article on an interesting topic. It just needs some tweaks as outlined above to pass as a good article. I will put the article on hold for seven days to give you time to fix. Feel free to make comments or ask questions. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 21:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Questions

Hi Mattisse! To respond to one of the points you brought up above about answers.com, obviously it's not a reliable source, but would Amazon.com be? Answers.com has just used Amazon's take on the Chronicle of a Disappearance. Here's the link [1] The information in question is provided in the Review section. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

If it is used to establish publisher, or some other verifiable information, it would be ok. But not for opinions, evaluations, reviews etc. There are several links that provide reliable information to enlarge on what is already in the article. Plus at least one of the articles used has four pages of info. I think there is plenty already available to clarify the article. It is an extremely interesting film. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarifcation. I'm going to wait for the nominator of this article to address the points you brought up since I have no familiarity with this film. I noticed he/she has been inactive for over a week now and if he/she doesn't respond within two days, I'll try to take care of these issues myself. --Al Ameer son (talk) 17:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

• Note: Article is failed as the nominator has not responded and has not been on wiki since the nomination. No one else is able to address the issues.

—Mattisse (Talk) 16:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)