Talk:Central Park mandarin duck/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 20:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Kingsif, and I'll be doing this review. This is an automated message that helps keep the bot updating the nominated article's talkpage working and allows me to say hi. Feel free to reach out and, if you think the review has gone well, I have some open GA nominations that you could (but are under no obligation to) look at. Kingsif (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• Sources look good and there's enough references, clear of copyvio
  • However, some of the sources don't contain what they're being used to reference, e.g. the sentence Birding and conservation organizations took advantage of the buzz to educate birdwatchers, like the Audubon Society's explanation of what to expect to see during molting season is sourced to the Audubon Society's explanation, which is a primary source for its existence and a secondary source on mandarin duck molting. The main point of the sentence is OR at the moment.
    • Hmmm. I could've sworn I remembered reading a line about that somewhere, but as I can't find it now, I've removed it. In the course of looking for this, I wound up adding a little bit elsewhere FYI. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Refs for the duck's names don't need to be in the lead since they exist in the body
    •  Done
• Images all seem good and relevant, commons licensed
• The wikilink for meme points to the anthropological concept, and should be to Internet meme instead
  • The broader term might be more appropriate here, encompassing those passed via the internet and locally between people. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
• The ring on the duck's leg is variously referred to as a ring, band, and tag, and is wikilinked to bird ringing and livestock branding. Some more consistency here would improve the article.
  •  Done
• I have no issue with the infobox, but am neutral if the discussion decides to remove it.
  • Replaced, since nobody responded on the talk page.  Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
• The hyphen in 2018-2019 winter should be an en-dash (i.e. 2018–19 winter)
  • I don't know how people spot these. Seems about time to have a bot that's in charge of all dashes on the project. :)  Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
    • @Rhododendrites: I do have a user script (available to all on WP) that can fix dashes, so it's almost there! Kingsif (talk) 17:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
• The sentence It left before the species' mating season and despite false positive sightings and speculation that it would likely return after molting season, in September, it has not been seen as of December 2019 is a run-on and may be better understood if rewritten.
  •  Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
• Do we need to introduce David Barrett as a New York City birder and operator of the Manhattan Bird Alert Twitter account who had been interviewed many times in connection with the mandarin duck – it's a bit excessive and the point is lost while reading it

• Thought about that. The reason there's more information than one might think is that Barrett has been part of these stories along with the duck. The Bird Alert thing he runs means he's often a media contact in the NYC birding community, mentioned in several of the sources. NYT seemed to follow his relationship with the duck here and then later here they refer to him as "the duck's kingmaker". Does that justify some additional context? Or maybe switching to "a New York City birder the New York Times described as 'the duck's kingmaker'" instead? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• Hmm, if he's that significant in the duck's rise to fame, maybe there should be a bit more coverage of that? I know that's asking for inclusion of something more, but there seem to be the sources for it. Kingsif (talk) 16:16, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• @Kingsif: Thoughts? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:55, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

• I like it. Kingsif (talk) 17:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Overall

•  On hold Well written, overall quite good, main issue with a spot of OR. Kingsif (talk) 21:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Kingsif: Thanks for the review. Mostly addressed the above. Left a comment on the last item I'd like your thoughts on. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Looks good to go. Kingsif (talk) 17:37, 12 April 2020 (UTC)