Talk:Center for a New American Security

NPOV edit

This entry is just boilerplate from the C.N.A.S.'s website. Wikipedia should cut through such crap & tell us what this thinktank DOES & where it STANDS. 68.19.201.203 (talk) 14:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)Reply


"tell us what this thinktank DOES & where it STANDS"

AGREED. ---Dagme (talk) 22:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Reply


Sorry, I have no idea how to do hyperlinks here. There's an op-ed piece in the NYT By JOHN NAGL, COLIN KAHL and SHAWN BRIMLEY who are noted as being CNAS fellows: How to Exit Iraq. I looked here to see if there was any discussion about this organization. I do agree with the previous comment, that it has the ring of direct marketing copy straight from the organization itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshwager (talkcontribs) 11:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
I agree that this page doesn't meet the most minimal requirements of Wikipedia. It should be rewritten or deleted. Wlegro (talk) 16:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

AGREED. ---Dagme (talk) 22:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

In that case, you should have AfD'd it. It seems to me that the organization is a few ex-lifers (former career military) attempting to get some consideration for the 1% of the US population serving in the military - kind of, "mission impossible, maybe; mission idiotic, no." I reorganized this discussion and refrained from slapping an NPOV banner on the article. - 12.69.99.122 (talk) 16:52, 11 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Funding? edit

The most important thing to know about a think tank is where its money comes from. There's no mention of that in this puff piece. Hayduke865 (talk) 15:31, 21 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Related article? edit

I've just come across The Iran lobby in the United States, an orphaned article which looks potentially quite problematic - I don't know much about the topic, but it reads fairly one-sided, and may not be appropriate for a Wikipedia article. (Apart from anything else, a contribution by a user called "Minitrue Propdep" is faintly alarming). It mentions this group specifically - could someone with expertise take a look? If need be, it may need deleting, or partially merging into Iran – United States relations.

Thanks, Shimgray | talk | 10:36, 4 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Funding and controversy section: inappropriate analysis and factual errors edit

A large section was added to this article in early Feb 2022.

Much of it is written like an analysis piece and does not use the appropriate tone for an encyclopedia article. It seems to be a (sometimes factually distorted) summary of the cited report by CEPR's revolving door foundation.

There are also certain citations which purport to demonstrate something much stronger than they actually do. For example

The advisory board is not selected based on a diverse and impartial group of academic leaders, but rather the amount the "advisor" or his/her representative company donates to CNAS.

The "source" for this is simply a link to the corporate partnership program -- no indication of how the advisory board is selected. It does indicate that for $120k, it is possible to participate in events with the advisory board. Much more appropriate for an encyclopedia article would be to describe the partnership donation levels and perks. The CEPR report does indicate that many

Another dubious reference in this section:

CNAS scholars did not disclose they received $100,000 to $249,999 in funding from Taiwan in the fiscal years proceeding a 2020 report to Washington on “Rising to the China Challenge".

Except when you follow the citation, the only source for this information is a CNAS disclosure (look for TERCO)! https://web.archive.org/web/20200426211435/https://www.cnas.org/support-cnas/cnas-supporters How is this evidence that CNAS failed to disclose a funding source?

The section that strays into the details of Toria Nuland's diplomatic career is not appropriate for this article -- it is tangential at best. Never mind the fact that the "f--- the EU" clip was from a private conversation intercepted and leaked out of context, likely to cause political damage. It is relevant and fair to note that she went on to serve in the Biden administration.

I have made some edits to improve the neutrality and pare down this section to bare facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcmoretti (talkcontribs) 21:07, 1 June 2022 (UTC)Reply