Talk:Catch a Fire/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: SilkTork (talk · contribs) 22:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC) I'll start reading over the next few days and then begin to make comments. I am a slow reviewer, so if there is a desire to have the review done soon, then let me know and I'll withdraw now. I tend to directly do copy-editing and minor improvements rather than make long lists, though sometimes I will make a general comment, especially if there is a lot of work needed. I see the reviewer's role as collaborative and collegiate, so I welcome discussion regarding interpretation of the criteria. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 22:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

Pass

• Images meet criteria. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• There is a standard reference section. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• Stable. No edit wars. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 10:52, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• All relevant MoS criteria pass apart from the Lead. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• I see no evidence of original research. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:45, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• Appears neutral. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• Focus. As there is an article on the promotional tour - Catch a Fire Tour, it seems that much of the less important information regarding the tour could be moved there. Example - "The majority of the audience thought The Wailers, an American rock band, would perform, but they were surprised seeing a Jamaican band; the drummer of the Atlee Yeager Band meant that they looked like biblical figures from the Old Testament." Done. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Why is the "Chris Whiteworst" paragraph in this article? SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:06, 10 May 2012 (UTC) Moved to Bob Marley & The Wailers. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:46, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Query

• Coverage. There is little mention of the music. And no detail on why the album is regarded as "one of the greatest reggae albums of all time" other than an assertion. There appear to be plenty of sources on Marley which should deal in depth on this album, plus some general works, such as 1001 Albums, which would have useful material - [1]. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:52, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Fail

• Lead. To meet GA criteria 1(b), which relates to specific manual of style guidelines, the article needs to comply with the advice in WP:LEAD. That is, in addition to being an introduction, the lead needs to be an adequate overview of the whole of the article. As a rough guide, each major section in the article should be represented with an appropriate summary in the lead. Also, the article should provide further details on all the things mentioned in the lead. And, the first few sentences should mention the most notable features of the article's subject - the essential facts that every reader should know. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• I have just researched the story about the cover and put in some cites. I couldn't find anything specific regarding the reason for the subsequent releases having a different cover. One source said that the cover fell apart - [2]; when there are differing comments on something the choice is to mention them all, or to mention none. It is possible that Chris Blackwell has not spoken about the reason for the cover change, so people have speculated and come up with "reasonable" explanations - the cover was too expensive, or it had problems such as falling apart, etc. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:35, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
• Prose. The prose needs to be clear - it needs to be easy to understand. The Background section is difficult if not impossible to understand. There are odd mistakes here and there - "In London, the Wailers discovered that Sims and Nash left the city for Miami, Florida" (missing "had" - now fixed); "The band asked promoter Brent Clarke in the hope that he would help them" (asked what?); "Clarke contacted Chris Blackwell from Island Records, who has released many Wailers singles in Great Britain" ("has" should be "had" - now fixed); etc. The article needs a good copy-edit. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:43, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

General comments

• Reception. The juxtaposition of "Catch a Fire was greeted with positive critical reception." with "Vik Iyengar from Allmusic gave the album 5 out of total 5 stars", makes it appear as though Iyengar's review was contemporaneous with the release, even though Allmusic wasn't formed until l991, nearly 20 years after the album was released. I'll adjust. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 11:06, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hold

On hold for an initial seven days to allow the above points to be addressed. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:53, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

SilkTork, could you fail it please? I found material from Wailing Blues: The Story of Bob Marley's Wailers not covered here, so I want to expand it and then renominate. I am currently working on other articles and would like to work on this article in a relaxed mood. I shouldn't have nominate it so fast. Thanks for your GA comments; they will be very useful in future. Regards.--GoP_T^C_N 12:02, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine. I've just been doing some work in the hope of getting it tidied up for a pass, but I think it would require more than the few hours I have to spare. There are lots of sources on this album which are accessible via Googlebooks so I think it has the potential for significant development. Good luck! SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Fail

Nomination withdrawn. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 12:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)