Talk:Capirote

origins and KKK

The similarity of the capirote and the KKK outfit doesn't necessarily mean that the later came from the former. The use of robes and pointed hats is an old one in Eurasia, as old as the Witches of Subeshi, and as recent as clown costumes and the use of the dunce cap. The origins are most certainly pagan. As for the irony of the KKK dressing up in the same way as certain Spanish Catholics, I agree, but it is an editorial comment, not an npov statement supported by citation of a reliable source. Wrotesolid (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Science Ape, for the references. The rewording is also better, but as it stands, the statement amounts to undue weight. The proper place for comments on the robes of the Klan is in the Klan article. (An analogy would be a remark that Barney the dinosaur looks like a tyrannosaurus. That would go in the article on Barney, not in the article on T Rex.) There is no such discussion there, and no reference in that article to the Capirote. As it is, the best I can see as justified in this article is a one sentence reference to the KKK, something along the lines of "The Capirote costume long predates the ironically similar robes of the Anti-Catholic KKK, and also resembles other traditional and religious costume of Europe." If it were really relevant to compare the Capirote at length to the KKK then we would also have to allow a paragraph long statement on the resemblance to the dunce cap, witches' hats, clown costumes (which originate in the shaman costume) and so forth. Assuming you see my point about undue weight, maybe you can suggest a more balanced statement. Wrotesolid (talk) 16:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

The dunce cap, witches' hats, clown costumes don't cover the face. The Klan hoods and the capirote do.47.139.45.80 (talk) 00:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I changed the line about Arianism, because it's irrelevant to say that the KKK was founded long after the Iberian Peninsula converted from Arianism-- Arianism has nothing to do whatsoever with Aryanism, the white supremacist belief. Arianism is a Christian heresy that has to do with arguments about how Jesus and God the Father are related, and bores the pants off everyone except particularly hardcore Christian theology geeks. 128.91.220.97 (talk) 21:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the line "They are not to be confused with the Ku Klux Klan" from the 'Fabric' section because it was out of place, and the KKK connection was dealt with in the next section. RoryKat (talk) 22:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Proscribed vs. Prescribed

This article twice uses the word 'proscribed' when the meaning seems to be 'prescribed' 66.102.157.222 (talk) 15:40, 29 July 2017 (UTC)Paul Barton paul@plumlocum.com

Cardboard

I think this needs checking, because cardboard wasn't invented until the late 19th century: it uses wood fibres, whereas paper prior to that used recycled cloth fibres. I suspect the original was starched fabric, most likely linen, although leather can't be excluded. Other shaped headgear (the French hood, for example) uses buckram as a stiffener, and papier maché was also available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.213.9.109 (talk) 02:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

History

The shape of the tail of the hood on the chest shows a clear descent from the liripipe hood, with the tail stifened: the length is about the same. Where the liripipe has a curve at the nape of the neck, this would have been done away with.

Not all liripipes were cut in a single piece, so it would be simple to move it from the back to the crown of the hood, closing the face opening. I'd surmise - which makes the hypothesis OR unless hard evidence is found - that given the Spanish attitude towards the Flemish at the time these came to prominence (the Duke of Alba conducting a campaign of near-genocide), this may have had its origins in Burgundy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.213.9.109 (talk) 02:26, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Growing up in the day

Growing up you get taller than people 2603:6081:5340:1095:C4F:966E:7F48:515A (talk) 03:56, 4 February 2023 (UTC)