Talk:Candidates in the 2024 United Kingdom general election
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Page is way too big
editThis needs to be split if it's going to have all of those tables in there. My computer can't handle it. Dylpickle2k (talk) 22:23, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- The navbox at the bottom seems to be broken now - it looks like the number of references is blowing the computation limits. Perhaps a split by region? Blenge Hackett (talk) 05:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi Dylpickle2k and Blenge Hackett. This page has got incredibly long so I have solved this problem by moving some sections around:
- Northern Ireland is now at Next_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_Northern_Ireland#Candidates
- Wales is at Next_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_Wales#Candidates
- Scotland is at Next_United_Kingdom_general_election_in_Scotland#Candidates
This page should be functional now. Moondragon21 (talk) 22:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
Still issues - the last 200 references and the navbox aren't displaying, with the error "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." Blenge Hackett (talk) 04:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Blenge Hackett Now the election has been called the candidates in England are now at 2024 United Kingdom general election in England. Moondragon21 (talk) 19:50, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Sections from 2024 United Kingdom general election have been moved into this article. Candidates in the English regions are now at new pages.
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in the East of England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in the East Midlands
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in London
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in North East England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in North West England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in South East England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in South West England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in the West Midlands
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in Yorkshire and the Humber
Moondragon21 (talk) 3:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think this was a strange decision to make. Firstly, it's strange to have a page titled 'Candidates in the 2024 United Kingdom general election' which doesn't actually list the candidates, only including a lot of information that is not particularly relevant for anyone looking for a list of candidates (including people who are retiring i.e. not candidates), secondly the information was haphazardly copied over to the country-specific general election pages that it didn't bother to include any of the explanatory information (bold means incumbent standing for re-election, italics means standing down), and thirdly moving candidates to the England-specific general election article because this one has become too unwieldy is counterproductive, since 543/650 constituencies are in England, so you're just moving the problem to a different article without resolving it.
Surely the correct approach would be either to keep all the list of candidates in this article by itself, or at the very least without the list of incumbent MPs standing down (which definitely should be a separate article), or to have separate articles for '2024 United Kingdom general election in London', '2024 United Kingdom general election in North West England' etc. with all the candidates listed so that all of the national/regional breakdowns of the election contain similar comparable amounts of information. The way its currently been done seems like the worst of both worlds? MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 15:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
General election 4 July
editNow the 2024 United Kingdom general election has been called the tables should now soon be filled up completely. As this page was too long and not functioning properly the tables have been moved to the following pages.
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in Northern Ireland
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in England
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in Scotland
- 2024 United Kingdom general election in Wales
Moondragon21 (talk) 19:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Realise my comment aboive is probably more appropriate here now.
- I think this was a strange decision to make. Firstly, it's strange to have a page titled 'Candidates in the 2024 United Kingdom general election' which doesn't actually list the candidates, only including a lot of information that is not particularly relevant for anyone looking for a list of candidates (including people who are retiring i.e. not candidates), secondly the information was haphazardly copied over to the country-specific general election pages that it didn't bother to include any of the explanatory information (bold means incumbent standing for re-election, italics means standing down), and thirdly moving candidates to the England-specific general election article because this one has become too unwieldy is counterproductive, since 543/650 constituencies are in England, so you're just moving the problem to a different article without resolving it.
- Surely the correct approach would be either to keep all the list of candidates in this article by itself, or at the very least without the list of incumbent MPs standing down (which definitely should be a separate article), or to have separate articles for '2024 United Kingdom general election in London', '2024 United Kingdom general election in North West England' etc. with all the candidates listed so that all of the national/regional breakdowns of the election contain similar comparable amounts of information. The way its currently been done seems like the worst of both worlds? MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 15:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Candidates are now by distinguished by English region. Moondragon21 (talk) 03:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Jamie Wallis
editIs Jamie Wallis standing again? In October 2023, he stated that he wasn't contesting a seat in Wales again but may look for one elsewhere in the country. However, both Guido Fawkes and Sky News have him listed on their run throughs of MPs standing down at the next election (both sources published and updated to 24 May 2024). Should we list him as standing down? It's unlikely he'll be a candidate elsewhere IMO. Thanks Jkaharper (talk) 21:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- They may have jumped the gun there but I see ITV have also reported the same thing. Its not unlikely for sitting MPs to swap constituencies as the selections will now be rushed until the date nominations for candidates close on 7 June. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:22, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
deselected labour mps
editshould we include deselected labour mps (e.g. sam tarry) in the list of mps who are standing down? most don't seem likely to contest their seats as independents either SteveTempleton (talk) 06:46, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawn candidates
editDo we include in the section for candidates withdrawing those who do so when their party endorses an independent candidate? The WPB has done this in Bethnal Green and Stepney and Chingford and Woodford Green and possibly elsewhere. References are in the Endorsements page Jontel (talk) 22:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Party number discrepancies
editAs well as the below, the numbers look wrong for several other parties. The figures look too low for the Alliance Party of Northern Ireland and for the SDLP. Bondegezou (talk) 21:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have fixed all the numbers now, from a source that falls under the same license as Wikipedia. I think I manually checked the Northern Irish ones yesterday. Eastwood Park and strabane (talk) 18:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Workers Party
editIt seems that the number of candidates for the Workers Party of Britain may be lower than announced. In Paisley and Renfrewshire North, the party announced a candidate, but there is no Workers Party candidate in the actual vote. Eastwood Park and strabane (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- This page shows 153 - basically the same as the 152 on here. https://workerspartybritain.org/elections-2024/
- It doesn't include the candidate that was removed from the Paisley and Renfrewshire North seat. That number is likely accurate. Eastwood Park and strabane (talk) 19:26, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Official Monster Raving Loony Party
editThe Official Monster Raving Loony Party have their candidates listed here - https://www.loonyparty.com/ One candidate is listed for East Kilbride. The constituency is actually called East Kilbride and Strathaven. The named candidate is not actually on the ballot paper. Eastwood Park and strabane (talk) 19:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
Page that contains all the numbers
editThere is a webpage here https://democracyclub.org.uk/blog/2024/06/08/2024-uk-general-election-candidate-summary/ that contains all the numbers for each party. I don't know if it's a good idea to just copy all the data from there though. Eastwood Park and strabane (talk) 20:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)