Talk:Campanula rotundifolia

Latest comment: 1 year ago by MtBotany in topic Taxonomic Disagreement

National Flower of Scotland? edit

I always thought that the Thistle was the national flower of Scotland, but the article on Common Bluebell says that this flower is also considered to be the national flower of Scotland. It's not mentioned in the article on Scotland... --Bardcom (talk) 16:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Taxonomic Disagreement edit

The issue appears to be that POWO is dividing Campanula rotundifolia into separate species where other most sources are not.

It looks like this may be a divide between different academic groups with papers and books from Eurasia more often using these species names while in North America there seems to be a firm consensus that Campanula rotundifolia is one species with just subspecies or varieties in N. America. Since we follow POWO here on wikipedia as the broadest source for accepted botanical species names, it is important that we use their information. However, in a case like this we should also note that they are alone or nearly alone in this usage, especially in papers written in the English speaking world.

Here are the numbers I have found:

  • Campanula alaskana - 4 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula giesekiana - 7 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula intercedens - 4 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula kladniana - 63 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula macrorhiza - 18 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 1 paper on JSTOR
  • Campanula moravica - 52 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 1 paper on JSTOR
  • Campanula nejceffii - 1 result since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula petiolata - 1 result since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula ruscinonensis - 1 result since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR
  • Campanula willkommii - 6 results since 2010 on Google Scholar, 0 papers on JSTOR

I'm currently thinking about how exactly to word this to present a neutral encyclopedic point of view. MtBotany (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)Reply