Talk:Better Call Saul season 5/GA2

GA Review

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 16:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 16:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox looks good.

Nice to hear!

• Is there a reason why Bob Odenkirk is the only actor who has his character after his name in the first paragraph?

Sorted

• "Vince Gilligan, co-creator Peter Gould" → "Vince Gilligan; co-creator Peter Gould"

 Done

• Link "fourth" to Better Call Saul (season 4).

 Done

• Per consistency with the lead, add the names of the actors who portrayed Walter White and Jesse Pinkman in parentheses.

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 00:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

• Link Saul Goodman.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Add (Odenkirk) to the first mention of his character.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 21:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Cast and characters

• "recently reinstated to the New Mexico bar association, now practices" → "an attorney recently reinstated to the New Mexico bar association who now practices"

 Done

• In the caption of the second image, add a comma before "and".

 Done

• "consultant, "fixer"" → "consultant and "fixer""

 Done

• Actually, a lot of descriptions are missing "and"s between each "profession". Add them.

 Done

• Link "third season" to Better Call Saul (season 3).

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 01:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

• In #Recurring, is there a reason why some characters have references and others don't?

Any characters that have references were added before the season began airing, because we needed to source for any upcoming appearances. Characters that don't are simply ones that were added to the list after the season began airing. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Some characters, such as "Drama Girl" and "Sound Guy", should be in lowercase per MOS:TVCAST and some rules in WP:FILMCAST.

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 17:50, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Production

• "the series co-creator" → "series co-creator"

 Done

• Are the last two sentences in #Development all necessary since it's already in #Broadcast? Maybe just mention that "In November 2019, AMC confirmed that the fifth season would have ten episodes and would debut on February 23, 2020".

 Done

• Is #Writing just quotes? If no more information can be found, I would merge it with #Development.

 Done

• Is the "And also" a new sentence, or a part of the one before it? Sentences shouldn't start with and.

 Done

• Since Jimmy McGill is currently linked in #Writing, I would link the rest of the characters in #Casting.

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 17:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

• Combine both paragraphs in #Development.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• "On what to expect in the fifth season, series co-creator Peter Gould" → "On what to expect in the fifth season, Gould"

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Due to the recent changes, the last sentence in #Development doesn't seem necessary so I would remove it.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Episodes

• Reword the sentence "Nacho reveals to Gus Lalo's plan for Domingo".

 Done

• Remove the commas after "unnerved by the offer" and "fought with".

 Done

• "DEA find the three dead" → "DEA finds the three dead"

 Done

• "Mesa Verde business" → "Mesa Verde's business"

 Done

• The description of episode 8 is 201 words, failing MOS:TVPLOT.

 Done

• "as decoy" → "as a decoy"

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Broadcast

• Link Breaking Bad.

 Done

• Link AMC Networks.

 Done The Optimistic One (talk) 18:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Ethics Training with Kim Wexler

• Link the phase "Outstanding Short Form Comedy or Drama Series" to Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Short Form Comedy or Drama Series.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Reception

• Update Rotten Tomaotes.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• "Collider" → "Collider"

Comment: Generally website names are italicized. Do you wan them un-italicized in prose but leave them as in the cite templates because they are automatically italicized in the reference templates. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

The references are ok since you're using "|website=", but since the Wiki-articles aren't in italics, I suggest that the websites are un-italicized in prose.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• "The Ringer" → "The Ringer"

See comment above. Drovethrughosts (talk) 13:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Try reducing the use of quotes per WP:RECEPTION.
• "Alan Sepinwall of Rolling Stone described her as the "MVP of Better Call Saul". Brian Tallerico of Rolling Stone referred to Seehorn's work" → "Both from Rolling Stone, Alan Sepinwall described her as the "MVP of Better Call Saul", and Brian Tallerico referred to Seehorn's work"

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• The phrase "appeared to be "breaking bad" herself on her last scene" needs rewording.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Combine the last two paragraphs in #Critical_response together.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• The "total (18-49)" rating for "Namaste" should be 0.8, not 0.7.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• The "DVR (18-49)" rating for "Wexler v. Goodman" should be 0.5, not 0.6.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:23, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Accolades

• Since the award nominations table is getting a lot bigger, make #Accolades its own section.
• Add a hatnote to List of awards and nominations received by Better Call Saul.
• Per consistency with other tables, and other lists such as List of awards and nominations received by Better Call Saul, link the nominees every time they are mentioned.
• The references column should be centered.
• "Better Call Saul: Ethics Training with Kim Wexler" → "Employee Training: Legal Ethics With Kim Wexler"

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• Archive all archivable sources (I recommend using this).
• Mark references from Rolling Stone with "|url-access=limited".

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Mark references from Forbes with "|url-access=limited".

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Make sure all references have their websites linked to their Wiki-articles.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:14, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

• Use the cite rt and cite mc templates when citing Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic.

 Done Drovethrughosts (talk) 22:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Overview

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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