Talk:Baltimore crisis

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I have begun Cleanup and adding info, (cites are rudimentary, which I will try to improve later).

This has been a bit of a "political football" on the web in recent years. There was a Spanish Language Chilean History Website a few years ago which had a very bad version of this which was full of factually bad stuff.

Need to look at Foreign Relations of the US series, Foster's Memoirs are fuzzy here but I have him as involved before he became Sec of State, there was a really good book on this thing pub c 1980, but last time I saw a copy it was in DC. John5Russell3Finley 23:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I did more rearanging and adding info. Were the sailors drunk ? maybe, I suppose you could infer it from that they were outside of a bar. My sources aren't that detailed, and seem to see it as blaming the victim. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 06:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Today I changed a few words/phrases to conform to "North American"/U.S. usage, one word "edicted" may actually not be a word in standard use at this time, so I put in the one that is generally used in modern times. There is some good info here, though from the tone I guess the most recent editors are "Latin Americanist". I will have more comments or changes but need to do some research first. There is a lot of stuff which belongs in the after the action part which is either missing or needs to be added/readded: this was a Big deal, and the US almost wound up at actual "boots on the ground" war there. Please do feel free to contact me at my discussion page with any ideas because I would really like to dialoque about this rather than stepping on someone's toes in this still very sore issue. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 17:55, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

verification sources needed tag

I think we can remove the tag now John5Russell3Finley (talk) 01:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I remove my objections to retaining the instant tag John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

español

I think it is better to traslate the article from the spanish wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.155.56.105 (talk) 14:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

This article conforms to the records we have at NARA, there does however seem to be a lot more info in the spanish language version, so perhaps someone with a good command of both languages could add some more of the less inflamatory info here. My recollection of the last few times I have tried to do this in other venues is that it eventually leads to a lot of hostile name calling, etc., so I would prefer to leave this to someone with more skill than I. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 15:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

People killed

This page says something of 2 killed and 17 injured, page Benjamin Harrison tells me of two douzen killed and three dozen injured, and USS Baltimore (C-3) has nothing on fatalities, but tells me of "saving American lives". This is highly inconsistent, and someone with more access to American Jistory books should work on this. --62.224.232.194 (talk) 22:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Background Section

I am stuck here. I will check my talk page daily for the next couple of days. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 18:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Today I did some reworking of the intro paragraph of the background section with emphasis skewed toward showing the growth of national ambition. In paragraph 4 I would like to call the task group that pursued the Itata something like a "task group" as I am aware of the names of at least 4 other ships involved there and think it may be cumbersome to name them all especially since I think that I don't know all of their names. It may be better if I add the info to Itata Incident. Any comments/assistance I will try to continue checking the discussion sections for several days after I finnish editing here which may still be a while. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 23:35, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

The last sentance of paragraph 3 is still having trouble, I think there is a missing comma, but am unsure where it goes. John5Russell3Finley (talk) 23:52, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Corrections

• The Baltimore crisis took place AFTER the Chilean Civil War
• The Chilean President was not Balmaceda but Montt
• If Montt was the leader of Chile then Winfield Scott Schley wasn't the leader of the USA but Benjamin Harrison
• there were no casualties during the crisis. 2 dead were the cause of the crisis

--Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 17:42, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Best info I have is that the entire mess began under Balmaceda and ended under Montt John5Russell3Finley (talk) 22:28, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

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