Talk:Ballyhoo (video game)
the frequency isn't trivia
editThe frequency AM1170 isn't trivia - or at least so trivia like "containing 19% Alcohol". For users who have only the "Lost Treasures of Infocom" Package it is useful - instead of searching around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.223.105 (talk) 12:49, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's not really Wikipedia's goal to act as a replacement for missing manuals. The goal here is to document the game's existance and general notability. As such, specific but otherwise non-notable gameplay elements probably are trivia. — Alan De Smet | Talk 15:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
- The point of the "19% alcohol" is to illustrate Infocom's humorous irony. There's still a lot of unencyclopedic "game guide" content that needs to be removed from Wikipedia; let's not add more. Ntsimp (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
I contain the "Lost treasures" - without the freuqency - thererfore I found it useful. UNDO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.252.72 (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's goal is not to replace missing manuals. We already link to scans of the manual if that is what is needed. — Alan De Smet | Talk 23:51, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Stop edit warring. One anonymous editor wanting game-guide trivia to appear in an article is not a consensus. As WP:GAMECRUFT says, "if the content only has value to people actually playing the game, it is unsuitable." Ntsimp (talk) 22:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- The information does not only have "value to people actually playing the game." It would likely be of primary value to such people, but many people are interested in Infocom games generally, and would find this info relevant and of interest irrespective of whether they were actually playing the game (this one of the relatively few Infocom games I have never played). I know such people exist, because I am one of them. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 23:44, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Are you guys one (alan de smet, ntsimp) of the hidden groups that control (illegal) wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.219.115 (talk) 22:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Hidden Wikipedia Admin communication? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.219.115 (talk) 22:33, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, we're a secretive, all powerful cabal. The cabal has devoted two of its agents to deleting two words from one specific article. While to a casual observer this may seem amazingly minor, it's actually a key piece of our evil plans. Sadly, you've found us out, and we are defeated. Meanwhile, back in reality: I think Ntsimp has given a very solid argument for removing the exact frequency; it's gamecruft. Do you have an argument beyond you personally finding it useful? If not, it's just going to be deleted again. — Alan De Smet | Talk 22:43, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
ok - delete it! Yes - delete it - I (and most of the visitors) don't care anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.207.48 (talk) 21:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I thought, I give a useful contribution for owners of the "lost treasures of Infocom" (I'm one of them and I didn't know about the frequency as well as the last (lost) page - even I had viewed the given links. This is my oppinion! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.207.48 (talk) 21:42, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
maybe you (Alan & NtSimp) are right - therefor delete it; I give up :-( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.177.207.48 (talk) 21:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
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The problem isn't that a player might be missing their manual. The problem is, when the compendium of 20 games was published, vital manual pages weren't reprinted. So the published games, as bought from a shop by a conscientious player who always keeps his manuals, is unwinnable.
Sure this site isn't here as a lost-manual farm. But for players of the game, who might end up here from desperation and Google's fondness for this site, the information would be very welcome indeed. And providing useful information is the main purpose of an encyclopaedia. The fact that the manual is incomplete in the collected version, is very important. And while you're including that information, chucking in half a sentence to fix the problem is only gentlemanly. It'd be kicking a man while he's down to not do so.
If you're gonna have articles on computer games, then this information is certainly relevant, particularly to people who might actually look the page up.