Talk:Ave Maryam/GA1

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 13:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• In the infobox, add a release location after "11 April 2019".

  I trimmed to just the theatrical release.

The film premiering at the Hanoi International Film Festival should still be mentioned.

Done.

• Running time and box office parameters need references.

  It's covered in the Release section, so I don't think it's needed.

• "1 hour 25 minutes" → "85 minutes"

  Done.

• In the infobox, link Rp.

  Done.

• "Ave Maryam was premiered" → "Ave Maryam premiered"

  Done.

• Did the film premiere at the Hanoi International Film Festival or the Tempo Film Festival?

  The Tempo Film Festival does not have screenings; they merely share accolades and no showcase of the film.

• The sentence "It attracted an audience of 80,000 in 39 theaters nationwide." seems unnecessary in the lead.

  Removed.

• Everything else looks good.

Plot and cast

• "dipite the sisters" → "despite the sisters"

  Done.

• The sentence "The 10-year-old (now 12) Samarangan has her debut here" should probably be moved to #Production.

  It would be really weird to have a single paragraph stating that. I don't think there are problems with this.

I think the issue is that the sentence doesn't sound like something from Wikipedia and also sounds trivial.

Some Dude From North Carolina, hmmm, why? I think it's worth noting that a major role had her debut here. Doesn't sound like WP:TRIVIA to me. GeraldWL 07:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, the "10-year-old (now 12)" doesn't sound right. Maybe change it to "The then 10-year-old Samarangan has her film debut here." And it also feels off that she's the only one with a description, so that's why I recommend moving the fact to #Production.

 Done Chompy Ace 20:53, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Production

• A reference is needed for the title being changed.

  Does it need references? The fact that other sources after the Hanoi premiere title it Ave Maryam is basically a reference in itself.

• Per google translate: "We wanted to make the film honestly, so we've taken that risk" → "We are making this film honestly, so we are ready to bear the risk"

  Done.

• This reference doesn't actually say filming ended on 5 December 2016, so add a reference that does or just mention that filming ended after nine days.

  I think that using basic calculation, we are safe to assume such, right?

Well, it depends if the article is counting 26 November as one of the nine days, or if its saying filming ended after nine days from 26 November.

Done.

• "realized she is Muslim after production" → "realized she was Muslim after production"

  Done.

• Since it was just moved: "The then 10-year-old Samarangan has her film debut here." → "Additionally, Nathania Angela also stars in her first film role" or something similar.

 Done Chompy Ace 23:32, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Music

• Citing the credits after "Rooftopsound" doesn't seem right. Try finding a secondary source.

  Removed.

• Same issue after "Saras vocalizes the melody".

  Removed.

• The final sentence needs a reference.

  I think the film in itself makes of a fine primary source. If people want to know if the song is actually the stated titles, they can just listen to it and verify it.

The whole point of Wiki-articles is to have enough sources that verify information without the need of watching the subject, in this case, the movie.

Well you have book sources, video game sources, movie sources. Paywalled sources are definitely hard to access, but the whole point is that there is encyclopedic information in it. I tried finding online sources about the featured hymns, but there are sadly none. GeraldWL 07:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Release

• "Ave Maryam was premiered" → "Ave Maryam premiered"

  Done.

• There are references for the film getting 42,044 and 77,000 viewers, but a citation is still needed for the 80,000 viewers.

  Removed.

• Remove the sentence "The film is rated 16+ on Netflix." as it seems trivial.

  Done.

Reception

• "..." → "[...]"

  Done.

• Everything else looks good.

Accolades

• All citations in the references column should be centered.

  Done

• "Best Supporting Actor" → "Tempo Supporting Actress Choice"

  Done.

• Additionally, the award should be in alphabetical order per consistency with other articles.

  I'll do this (and the first point) later on. I don't think this is a violation of the MOS, and I don't think it has to be reorded just because other articles does so. GeraldWL 17:34, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, the suggestion was to make it easier for readers. Having the list in order depending on the first column is an example of WP:OTHER.

 Done Chompy Ace 21:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Overview

GAN table

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Notes

• @Gerald Waldo Luis: Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments later in the week. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 13:11, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for picking this up! You don't have to ping me anymore; I've placed this in my watchlist. GeraldWL 13:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay. Well, I just added most of my notes. Ping me back when you have added comments, but keep in mind that I won't be able to respond tomorrow (today in UTC time) until at least 7 pm ET (12 am UTC) due to stuff. Hope I can promote this article soon. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 01:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Some Dude From North Carolina, I have responded to most all of your comments! I'll do the other 2 points point later; it might take me time. Looking forward for progress in this review. GeraldWL 08:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

I have added a few comments. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 00:45, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

I added a final note to #Production. Ping me back, and I will promote the article. Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 23:01, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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