Talk:Aristolochia chilensis

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This page should not be speedy deleted because...

This page should not be speedily deleted because... I have removed all copied text and will continue to make the article the correct way. --Ab022688 (talk) 22:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thank you very much. I removed the tag. Leave me a message if you'd like some help; I write botanical articles myself and I'm happy to assist. (I know it can be hard, for instance, to take a botanical description that's written in technical language and put that in an article without copying and pasting.) Choess (talk) 00:11, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Also, you may want to read this paper for a short description of the species (beginning of "Materials and Methods" section). I am very suspicious of the claim by the chileflora.com website that this plant is an insectivore. It has hairs that trap pollinators temporarily in the flower so that they become dusted with pollen. However, the pollinators escape when the flower withers; otherwise this wouldn't be a very effective way of dispersing pollen! I would try to avoid that source, which seems to confuse temporary trapping for pollination with trapping for eating.

On a more positive note, this search reveals a number of images of A. chilensis that have a Creative Commons license that makes them OK to upload to Wikipedia, in place of the previous one. Choess (talk) 01:20, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

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Aside from the usual plant material (what is its morphology, what sort of ecosystem/climate/terrain is it found in, where in the world does it grow, how does it reproduce and spread), the most important parts of this article will probably be the pollination system, which seems to involve trapping pollinators, and the relationship with herbivores. Like other Aristolochia, it looks like this species produces some toxic secondary metabolites, which deter some herbivores but actually attract others (which use them for chemical defense).

• Aristolochic acids in Aristolochia chilensis and the Aristolochia-feeder Battus archidamas (Lepidoptera) and Fate of ingested aristolochic acids in Battus archidamas

  Battus archidamas may also be known as Battus polydamas psittacus; you'd have to ask a lepidopterist to see which name is current. I can only read the abstracts, but these might have some good material on how Battus whichever uses aristolochic acids from this plant for defense.

• Essential oil composition of Aristolochia chilensis a host plant of Battus polydamas

  There are a lot of papers out there focused on isolating one or a few novel compounds from the plant, but this might be a good summary. An exhaustive listing of chemicals would make the article a bit unbalanced.

• Neotropical Aristolochiaceae

  This is a description of neotropical members of the Aristolochiaceae, so not all of the information should be repeated at length (since it's not species-specific), but it's a good source and provides some background on pollination and how flies are trapped and escape with pollen.

I hope this helps in developing the article. Choess (talk) 04:57, 28 April 2012 (UTC)