Talk:American death triangle

Diagram needed

On first reading, I was somewhat confused as to what was being described in this article. I am familiar with climbing gear, and some anchors, but not this type of anchor. I think a diagram or photo is needed. (After looking at one of the references with pictures it became much clearer) --Ozhiker 00:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

• Your wish is my command. Frankly, I couldn't quite picture what was being described either, and I can't tell you how many times I've used those. I have my doubts that there have ever been any deaths associated with these so-called death triangles. Nobody in their right mind would use slings like that for anything but rapelling. --Mud4t 09:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Just saw some sport climbers using it the other day so it's a very common rookie mistake. The Conventional Wisdom is never to document visually a bad anchor isn't it? Don't add a photograph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.39.221.1 (talk) 20:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Would be useful to add which angles are being referred to in the tables/diagram, IMHO. I'm a very part time climber but I am an engineer and I can't quite see what you're getting at. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.70.34 (talk) 22:42, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Terminology

I'm not a stickler, but with physics, there is no such thing as 'weight' - all instances should use the proper term 'Mass'. Its more valid and encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.169.25 (talk) 00:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Weight = mass multiplied by the acceleration due to gravity. It is not the same as mass. --99.100.66.70 (talk) 00:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Correctness

I am not competent enough with vectors to feel comfortable editing this article, but I am not convinced that the table or the equations are correct. I tried to recreate those values, and was not able to. The notation in the equations is highly non-standard in layout and structure. I teach engineering at the collegiate level, and even with my experience, I cannot comprehend the hand-waving that goes on in the realm of "These values are derived from the vector analysis."

This article is so screwed up, I am at a total loss as to even comprehend how on earth to fix it. This might fall into the very narrow category of better-off-deleted and allow it to be re-born in a different incarnation". Even the title sounds of bias, assuming Americans have a preponderance for killing themselves by overloading anchors. In practice, I have never heard it called this, but more typically the "Triangle of Death" or "Death Triangle" Tim 165.234.0.138 (talk) 23:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

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Etymology?

Why is it called the "American death triangle"? Was it in the army manual providing bad info to a generation of climbers or something?96.241.177.111 (talk) 02:55, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Diagrams to illustrate the "better methods" described

This article could use some more diagrams to illustrate the "better methods" described, and possibly demonstrate how they are better. Edderiofer (talk) 23:07, 25 February 2022 (UTC)