Talk:Alipashiad

Latest comment: 10 months ago by Alexikoua in topic Poem vs history


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I've reverted User:St. Maximus latest edit here, since it was completely weird and the edit summary was misleading. Suppose this article was one of Maximus' favorite targets before he finally received his sock ban. I'll check all of his edit one by one and make the necessary reverts when necessary.Alexikoua (talk) 21:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

Translation differences/errors? edit

This article contains a quoted section of the work, and its English translation. The source given is in Greek, but the English version is online as well, here. This appears to be exactly the book referred to in the references and external links (same edition, same page number).

I corrected an obvious transcription error and a punctuation error in the English translation. However, there are a few more mismatches between the text here and at the original. Nothing big: "make/made," "had/hath," etc.

In digging back through the edits, I see that this quote has contained deviations from the original text since it was added in 2010, and that additional differences have been introduced since then. So, what we have here has never matched the original, and now it's extra wrong (assuming these errors are errors).

I really don't want to change a quotation without being sure I'm right. This is not my area. Would someone else please take a look at this? Thank you. Jessicapierce (talk) 17:39, 28 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Poem vs history edit

I wonder why a certain historical POV that does not concern this work should be added here.Alexikoua (talk) 04:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Also this part [[1]] is based on Fleming and it's vital to understand that the language of composition was affected by the language of the court in Ioannina (see also Kyriazis). Although Alipashiad contains several northern(Epirote) features in particular from the idiom spoken in Delvine, Sekhreti was part of Ali's court.Alexikoua (talk) 05:14, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
You removed explanations provided by the scholar directly relating to the subject of this article, cutting it off as it suited you and misleadingly keeping only one part of the information. On the other hand, this content you restored Although Ali Pasha was Albanian he used Greek in his courtly dealings, since this was the dominant language in the regions he controlled as an explanation of the usage of the language of the poem is not supported by the source, it is WP:OR. – Βατο (talk) 09:12, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
You removed explanations directly related to the close environment of the author. Yes Kyriazis is clear that the language of this poem was influenced by the Greek spoken in Ali's court.Alexikoua (talk) 17:54, 5 July 2023 (UTC)Reply