Talk:Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana

Latest comment: 1 month ago by AvoyellesCajun in topic Adai / Caddo

Adai / Caddo edit

Taking this to the talk page. "Natao, Hadeyes, Adais, Adayes, Aday, Adaes, Adae, Caddo, Cadeaux, Caddo Confederacy" are all terms for the Adai people and the Caddo Confederacy (the latter being far larger than the former). The Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana is a state-recognized tribe, which includes some descendants of Adai people, but borrowing citations discussing Adai people or the Caddo Confederacy is WP:SYNTH. References removed from article: [1][2][3] Yuchitown (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

The citations reference the ADAI TRIBE. Legally under Louisiana law, the Adai Tribe is the Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana. One of the citation's materials comes directly from the Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana (Adaizan quote) and the material is owned by the tribe. The first reference specifically states "Adai Tribe". The second reference cites La Salle Expedition, which La Salle documented the tribe. La Salle's report is a report of tribes. Just as with the French explorers that followed, they documented tribes and negotiated and memorialized documents treating the tribes as nations. The Adai are a tribe and legally recognized as such by the State of Louisiana, National Park Service, and US Census Bureau. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 17:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, Louisiana recognizes Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana as a state-recognized tribe. No one is debating that fact. The La Salle Expedition and later French colonists did not meet the state-recognized tribe and 501(c)(3) organization based in Robeline, Louisiana. There are not secondary, published sources coming from outside the Adai Caddo Indians of Louisiana that people from outside the organization refers to members of this state-recognized tribe as Natao, Hadeyes, Adais, Adayes, Aday, Adaes, Adae, Caddo, Cadeaux, or the Caddo Confederacy. Please read WP:SYNTH. Thank you, Yuchitown (talk) 14:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
You are wrong. They did meet the same tribe. Just as Desoto met the Tunica, which are the same Tunica Biloxi tribe today. Just as the Cherokee tribe before the trail of tears is the same Cherokee tribe today. Just as the Mohawk are the same tribe before US Independence and today. What are you saying? That just because their mailing address, legal status or recognition changes, they change as a tribe or become a new tribe? Please explain how you believe the tribe is not the same tribe and how the State of Louisiana, Indian Affairs Commission, IRS, and everyone has it wrong but you have it right. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
That National Park Service says they are the same tribe. Check out the NPS park at the Los Adaes site. If they are different tribes, cite your source. AvoyellesCajun (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Adai Tribe of the Caddo Confederacy". Legends of America. Retrieved 3 April 2024.
  2. ^ "Haqui Indians". Texas State Historical Association. TSHA. Retrieved 4 April 2024.
  3. ^ "Adaizan (Tenanat e-Hadeyes)". Online Encyclopedia of Writing Systems and Languages. Omniglot. Retrieved 4 April 2024.