Talk:Accordion (card game)

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Bermicourt in topic The Idle Year

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Under the default rules, this game is extremely hard to beat all the way down to one pile. I've played hundreds of times and still havent won. I've gotten it down to two at least. The person who showed me the game hasnt beaten it since he learned it over 20 years ago. If you can get it down to one pile, congratufreakinglations, you have done the near-impossible.

The game is not nearly as difficult to win as reputed if played with some care. I have often won twice or more in the same day. Kostaki mou 22:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Is that dealing the entire deck out ahead of time? Fomalhaut~enwiki (talk) 06:49, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Idle Year

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Walter B. Gibson describes another variant of this game, which he says is the original. In this version, all moves must be performed as soon as they become possible. Also, there is no choice in moves: if a card can be moved either to the pile immediately to the left or to that three piles to the left, it must be moved to that immediately to the left. Otherwise, if two moves are simultaneously possible, the leftmost must be performed. Gibson calls this version The Idle Year (which is given as an alternative title for Accordion in Mott-Smith and Morehead). He then describes the "modernised" version of the game, "popularly known as Accordion," in which all moves are voluntary as in the rules given in the article. I suspect that the distinction was a figment of his imagination. The "original" version he describes may deserve its reputation of near-impossibility. Accordion does not.

Kostaki mou 22:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

Gibson was not imagining it: The distinction existed. See, for example, The Idle Year in the 1884 version of Dick's Games of Patience, p. 51ff.

Fomalhaut~enwiki (talk) 06:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

It's not as simple as that. Gibson has only used one source for The Idle Year, probably Dick (1883/84), which is the strictest of four variations. Tarbart (1905) records the most lax version of the rules, also under the name The Idle Year, in which the player may move a card or pile of the same suit or rank onto the preceding card or pile or the one 3 away, "but need not necessarily. Judgment has to be exercised as to whether to play the depots on to one another or not." So there are strict and lax versions of The Idle Year. That said, I have yet to find a version of Accordion that is as strict as Dick's. Usually the rules say a player "may" move if possible and offer a choice between the 1st and 3rd packets to the left if there is one. A couple specify that a further card may be dealt before moving. Either way, it's wrong to say The Idle Year is a stricter variant. Bermicourt (talk) 14:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Fair use rationale for Image:Accordion v1.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply