Talk:AGM-12 Bullpup

Latest comment: 9 months ago by 162.247.90.175 in topic "Storable liquid fuel"

Service History

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The Service History somehow lists the Korean War despite the bullpup entering service in the late '50s. 209.244.31.35 (talk) 22:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)Reply

  • Where does it say that? All I can find on Korea is "It was developed as a result of experiences in the Korean War". Bjelleklang - talk 22:01, 12 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
The offending material was removed prior to your post.--172.129.96.180 (talk) 06:17, 21 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Hmmm

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"The Bullpup was the first mass-produced air-surface command guided missile"

This statement is clearly wrong.

1400 Fritz X were built and about 1000 Henschel Hs 293, the later of which was essentially identical to the Bullpup in action.

The US built a series of glide-bombs and boosted-glide weapons, some of which saw mass production, including a run of something like 15,000 AZONs.

The SS.11 entered service in 1956, the air launched version the next year, and some 170,000 were eventually produced.

I'm sure I could find more in another 5 minutes.

Maury Markowitz (talk) 22:39, 1 October 2014 (UTC)Reply


Those were glide bombs, though -- more akin to the Paveway than the Bullpup. I retract that statement -- I didn't know as much about the Fritz X as I thought.

-- - Chrontius (talk) 04:17, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wrong source

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This section " it set off a huge secondary explosion of the stored ammunition.[1]" is using wrong source. Flightsoffancy (talk) 21:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Since you didn't give the right source, I've removed it as unsourced. - BilCat (talk) 15:22, 10 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

"Storable liquid fuel"

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Ignition! chapter 4, "… and Its Mate."
The situation today, then, is this: For tactical missiles, where the freezing point of the propellants matters, IRFNA type III-A is the oxidizer. The 47,000 pound thrust Lance, whose fuel is UDMH, is an example, as is the Bullpup, which burns a mixture of UDMH, DETA, and acetonitrile.

Page 63 (first printing), chapter "… and Its Mate". Second printing (hardback), page 56.

From the excellent book Ignition! by John D. Clark -- the liquid-fueled version of the Bullpup burns a mixture of UDMH, DETA, and acetonitrile. The oxidizer is IRFNA type III-A, inhibited red fuming nitric acid -- specifically 14% N2O4, 0.6% HF, and the balance nitric acid. (85.94%, by specification)

Quote used under fair use. The words above were mine, and are now public domain.

-- - Chrontius (talk) 04:10, 21 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Design. The missile was a rolling airframe. It was not level in flight. Bullpup A had small tabs on the wing tips to induce a roll rate of approximately 400 degrees per second. Bullpup B had canted wings to induce the roll. I was á Bullpup rep for Martin Company. 162.247.90.175 (talk) 19:41, 14 September 2023 (UTC)Reply