Talk:2026 FIFA World Cup qualification (OFC)

Latest comment: 9 days ago by Jkudlick in topic OFC qualification pages

OFC qualification pages

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Do we definitely need separate articles for the various rounds? There's not too much information in them that they couldn't all be included on this page. A similar discussion took place before the 2022 qualifiers and consensus was that one article with redirects was enough (Talk:2022 FIFA World Cup qualification (OFC)#OFC qualification pages). Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 13:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Stevie fae Scotland: I agree, given there will only be 18 matches played in the OFC qualifiers, I see little need to create separate articles for each round. From 2006 to 2018 each OFC qualifying tournament had at least 34 matches, much larger than 2022 and 2026. I therefore have WP:BOLDLY merged the content back into the article. S.A. Julio (talk) 16:14, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Courtesy pinging @Yoblyblob to this discussion for input. Jalen Folf (Bark[s]) 16:27, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I would disagree, because there is sufficient coverage for another article. The size of the round should not really be taken into account. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 16:44, 18 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The size should be taken into account. There's nothing in the first round offshoot which isn't in the main page and it's 68 words long. It's not long enough to justify an article by itself and it just creates an unnecessary duplication of information. By providing a link to another article claiming to be the main article, we are implying there is more information available to the reader when there is not. It's unhelpful in this instance. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 11:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I concur that we must consider WP:SIZE when determining whether a section is worthy of its own article. The size of the round is not the important part, but rather how much verifiable information is available to justify the separate article. There are numerous examples of larger rounds without their own articles because we can't sufficiently expand upon what is already included in the parent article. Conversely, we have copious examples of individual matches, not just major tournament final matches, that have enough significant coverage to justify individual articles. I am in favor of keeping the first round information here, though the second and third rounds may have enough additional information to break them into their own articles. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 23:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Names of first round match days

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@S.A. Julio: Where do you see that FIFA refers to the first round matches as semi-finals and final? I cannot find anything to corroborate that, and "per FIFA" doesn't help without a URL, and calling them semi-finals and final with further qualification rounds to be contested is counter-intuitive. I can find where OFC refer to the second round matches as "match day three, four and five," which infers match days one and two for the first round. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 23:07, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply