Talk:2024 United States Senate election in Michigan

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Steelbeard1 in topic Self-promotion is not allowed

Substantiating claims in candidate section edit

Hi, I am hoping to lead off a discussion about what sort of expectations there are for providing a basis to name someone as a 'potential' primary candidate. Not having been a frequent contributor of Wikipedia up to now, I am sort of unsure what stands. That said, I am able to anticipate some of the conflicts (of interest) over what may be said, and hence, stipulations hereto the epistemic formation of a certain topic. Simply put, for this, I believe a potential candidate need not be validated by a reliable publisher. To have that requirement gives preference to the established norms of the Party and/or its most vocal proponents, when in fact eligible voters and indeed users of this Wiki are able to provided suitable input. Thank you for taking the time to read my prompt and I would happily respond to any of your feedback. Take care Safarnama29 (talk) 19:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

I very strongly disagree – if we do not need RS for inclusion as a potential candidate, there is no point to listing potential candidates at all, since anyone could add anyone. If I may ask, why is it so important that Chang be included on this page given the lack of any sources mentioning her as a potential candidate? Please refrain from re-adding her until such a source exists. As it stands, you are just edit warring. Jacoby531 (talk) 02:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Agreed with above. Please stop vandalizing the page. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:06, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hey, sorry I didn't see this before making my last edit. I'll go ahead and remove it after writing this. So yeah, I hear the point you are making. If the section is only bound by possibility in the literal sense, and not in the figurative sense of being purported by a media outlet or a reputable individual, then anyone that meets eligibility (and is not so apparently misleading or incorrect to elicit revision) may be included. And what I would say to that is yes, that what is appropriate for this article. By virtue of the office/role, the nominees to said position are made possible by people in their region, not necessarily a party institution - which are over-represented in the media and, I am quite confident, in the columns of these pages. Do I make a mistake in saying so? I believe that people will frequent the wiki and provide rationale for writings they make. I've done that with proper argumentation and it should be incumbent on those conflicting authors to evaluate their philosophy. Furthermore, I reject the notion that I have vandalized the page, as I've merely acted in response to equally questionable measures. Thank you again for your consideration, best regards. Safarnama29 (talk) 22:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

By mistake, I hadn't answered your question. To why I am inspired, I included Stephanie Chang to the list of potential candidates because in conference with the opinions expressed by progressive voters over time, she does seem like a person that would receive a nod from the Democratic base at some point. Safarnama29 (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

When I say, "not necessarily a party institution," I'm specifically referring to Michigan's status as a closed primary.

"Michigan's Presidential Primary has been designated a closed primary. There is no political party registration requirement in Michigan Election Law. Any Michigan registered voter can participate in the primary." (2016, Bureau of Elections)

Consider that, according to Pew Research Center, 47% of adults in Michigan identify as 'Democrat/lean Dem.' Therefore, people of the state and their voting tendencies are the best metric by which to evaluate. Safarnama29 (talk) 22:58, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

  • of adults in Michigan, there is the following identification: 34% Republican/lean Rep., 19% No lean, 47% Democrat/lean Dem. All are permitted to participate in the primary voting process. Safarnama29 (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Self-promotion is not allowed edit

All declared, potential or considering candidates listed in the page must be supported by a linked journalistic citation or a link to an official government web site supporting the edit. Self-promotion is NOT allowed. Steelbeard1 (talk) 18:18, 17 April 2023 (UTC)Reply