Talk:2011 Danish general election

Removing redirect

Now that the 2007 elections are ongoing, this article should be recreated to reflect information that pertains to the next election which will take place no later than 2011. I have begun the work. Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 14:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Please don't. I can't see the use of an article about an event that hasn't taken place, in particular given that any such article will need maintenance for several years in order to keep it free of mere speculation and gossip, and despite of all such efforts, most of its staying material will be written during and after the next election campaign anyway. Why not spend all that energy on the many existing articles of terrible quality? We still don't have a single decent article about a former Danish Prime Minister / politician. Even the article about the constitution is in very poor shape. Valentinian ^{T / C} 17:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

shrugs Now that it's been created, I'll keep an eye on it. —Nightstallion 19:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

We can delete the article if you want, I see plenty of good reasons to do so. I only recreated it because there used to be such an article which was then renamed (moved) to the 2007 election article. Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 21:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I've nominated the article for deletion myself. Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 12:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

By party

I think the section "By party" is odd. In Denmark we never divide the parties i three groups but only in two group: left and right. Red-Green Alliance, Socialist People's Party, Social Democrats, Social Liberal Party and Christian Democrats are left and the rest are right. Lennart.larsen 08:11, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

That's just the way things are now. Both the Social Liberal Party and the Christian Democrats have previously been in right-wing coalition governments. The term centrist party (midterparti) is in widespread use in Denmark, and it is always a point of interest whom these parties support for government. As such, the distinction should be kept, I believe. Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 08:21, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It is not the ways things are now. It is highly POV which parties are considered centrist. Social Democrats and Danish People's Party also claims to be centrist parties. Many believe that New Alliance is clearly a right party because they want lower tax and it supported by rich business people. But if you instead look at who support Anders and who support Helle you will get a NPOV view. Lennart.larsen 11:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Polls

Hi, I have just added a figure summarising the opinion poll data. The figure is based on a script that I have developed using R that reads the HTML directly and parses the data - all that is required to update it is simply to run the script again and reupload the resulting png file. I have been doing a similar thing for a while now with the 2008 and 2011 New Zealand elections - see eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_New_Zealand_general_election,_2008 for an idea of what it can look like when you have lots of data. If people keep adding polls as they come in, I'll keep updating the graph. It would also be particularly good if data could be added back in time as well, which would improve the trend visualisation quite dramatically. Cheers --Trevva (talk) 13:09, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, have updated and reinserted the poll summary graph. Apologies for falling behind with it. Will try to make sure I keep on top of it. However, you can also download and run the script yourself - its sitting there in the description page for the graphic. It is intended to "just run".--Trevva (talk) 20:02, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

I took it out again, it uses only a few of the available data points so it does not correctly show a trend. We can't recover more data from the past and the linked website has a much better interactive tool. Hekerui (talk) 16:15, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Electoral districts

Some information on the electoral districts would be good. For example the article on the Finnish election of the same year has a useful map.[1] Or is the whole country one district? --89.27.103.116 (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

The article Folketing indicates that there are 10 districts, but no geographic detail there. Ridcully Jack (talk) 08:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, there are 10 greater districts (storkredse) and 92 constituencies (opstillingskredse) - see maps here (map from Statistics Denmark) and here (zoomable Google Map). It'd be very neat if a map like the Finnish one could be made. /AB-me (chit-chat) 01:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I will try to generate a high-resolution map for someone more knowledgable to colour correctly into storkredse or with party colours for each opstillingskredse. Before I get into it, please look at the image on the right. Would it be useful to have "zoomed in" regions for the smaller opstillingskredse in a similar way? (Perhaps just the region arond Copenhagen).

NZ referendum results 2009

Ridcully Jack (talk) 02:23, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I think that would be extremely useful for the Greater Copenhagen area. I found the 92 constituencies as kml-files, if that is helpful: In Google Maps or zip-file (containing 92 files with one constituency each + 1 with all constituencies) /AB-me (chit-chat) 02:18, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

The opstillingskredse can be ignored for this article. They have very little effect on the election. A party may, if it wishes, designate a candidate for each opstillingskreds. If they do, the "list votes", that is votes cast for the party and not for a particular candidate, will be counted as votes for the kreds' candidate. That is all.--Klausok (talk) 06:44, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Update needed

Someone who is informed on the situation needs to bring this article up to date. The Social Democrats and their coalition partners now control the Danish parliament. Rammer (talk) 00:37, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Infobox

This removed a whole bunch of parties and though WP:Bold until undone should then require WP:BRD instead of synthesis and povLihaas (talk) 16:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

The reasoning is right. There is no need to include all parties in the infobox - that defeats the purpose of having an infobox for quick reference. It is also correct that generally Venstre and Socialdemokraterne are seen as the leading party of a blue and a red bloc respectively - and often Danish media show only the two party leaders when giving summaries. I think the edit was an improvement.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 17:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I think the gap between the share of votes of the two major parties on the one side (around 25%) and DF on the other (12.3%), is a rational argument, and not only reflecting my personal opinion. 'Most widely accepted' means: 'perceived by mainstream media' which, as Maunus has stated, add DF to the Venstre-led "blue bloc" and not as a stand-alone force. Kind regards --RJFF (talk) 09:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

I would agree to limit the infobox (as those with all parties dont preset well and Finland's election was peer reviewed to limit it). That said the geeral orm is 3 parties fit in a line, so it would be pov to suggest ad pic and choose per WP editors. can this perception of th emaintream media be cited? (we ca list it somewhere as cited that they are the biggest then include 2)Lihaas (talk) 05:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

TV2 ([2]) presents all parties in two blocs: the Blue Bloc led by Venstre, and the Red Bloc led by the Social Democrats. Politiken ([3]) shows the seats in parliament arranged by Red Bloc and Blue Bloc. This information site presents the Red Bloc ([4]) stating that it is led by the Social Democrats and Helle Thorning-Schmidt is their candidate for PM, and the Blue Bloc ([5]) stating that Venstre politician Lars Lokke Rasmussen is their candidate for PM.

Having DF presented as a third party in the infobox creates the impression that it is independent and Pia Kjaersgard was a PM candidate just like Thorning-Schmidt and Lokke Rasmussen, which is not true. In a 2-pole party system, common sense should command to present the two major parties, and not three - just because a Wikipedia infobox can show three parties in a row. Regards --RJFF (talk) 11:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Can we then cite this somewhere on the page? as said above? no probs with it as long as its not O\RLihaas (talk) 05:43, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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