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Comment: This person seems notable, but it needs more sources to confirm it. Geardona (talk to me?) 20:54, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

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Kim Jong-joo (Chosŏn'gŭl: 김정주) is the alleged eldest-son of current North Korean head of state Kim Jong Un and Ri Sol-ju^[1]

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Kim Jong-joo
Kim Jong-joo
김정주
Born	c. 2010 (aged 13-14); North Korea
Nationality	Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Parents	Kim Jong Un (father); Ri Sol-ju (mother);
Relatives	Kim Ju-ae (sister), Kim Yo Jong (aunt)
Family	Mount Paektu bloodline · Jeonju Kim clan
Korean name
Chosŏn'gŭl	김정주
Revised Romanization	Gim Jeongju
McCune–Reischauer	Kim Chŏngju

Previously, media had reported that Kim Jong Un's alleged son was named "Kim Joo Eun" (김주은).^[2]

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Jong-joo was allegedly born in 2010 as the eldest son of Kim Jong Un and Ri Sol-ju. North Korean reports stated that he was born perfectly healthy, while South Korean reports state that it is possible that he was born with defects.^[3]^[4]

Family tree edit

Kim Song-ryeong
1810–1899

Kim Ung-u
1848–1878

Kim Bo-hyon
1871–1955

Kim Hyong-jik
1894–1926

Kang Pan-sok
1892–1932

Kim Jong-suk
1917–1949

Kim Il Sung
1912–1994

Kim Song-ae
1924–2014

Kim Yong-ju
1920–2021

Kim Young-sook
1947–

Song Hye-rim
1937–2002

Kim Jong Il
1941?^[ζ]–2011

Ko Yong-hui
1952–2004

Kim Ok
1964–

Kim Kyong-hui
1946–

Jang Song-thaek
1946–2013

Kim Pyong Il
1954–

Kim Sol-song
1974–

Kim Jong-nam
1971–2017

Kim Jong-chul
1981–

Kim Jong Un
1983?^[η]–

Ri Sol-ju
c. 1986–

Kim Yo-jong
1987–

Kim Han-sol
1995–

Kim Ju-ae
c. 2012^[θ]–

Notes:

^ To keep the tree of manageable size, it omits five out of the seven known legitimate children of Kim Il Sung. Other children not shown in the tree are: Kim Man-il (1944-1947; child of Kim Jong Suk), Kim Kyong-jin (1952-; child of Kim Song-ae), Kim Yong-il (1955-2000; child of Kim Song-ae), and Kim Kyong Suk (1951-; child of Kim Song-ae). A stillborn daughter is also omitted. Kim Il Sung was reported to have had other children with women who he was not married to; they included Kim Hyŏn-nam (born 1972). Also, only some of the descendants of Kim Jong Il and Kim Jung Un (Kim Il Sung's successors) are included.
^ Korean names often have a variety of transliterations into English, which can be confusing. For example, "Kim Jong-chul" may also be written "Gim Jeong-cheol" or "Kim Jŏng-ch'ŏl" among many other variations. See Korean romanization for more information.
^ Huss, Kan; Frost, Clay. "North Korea's First Family: Mapping the personal and political drama of the Kim clan". msnbc.com. Archived from the original on 2012-02-04. Retrieved 20 January 2013. (Confirms many, but not all, of the birth and death years. See individual articles for more references.)
^ Yan, Holly (16 February 2017). "The world's most mysterious family tree: Kim Jong Un's secretive dynasty is full of drama, death". Design by Alberto Mier. CNN. Retrieved 16 February 2017.
^ Lee, Sung-Yoon (2023). "The Mount Paektu Dynasty (Family Tree)". The Sister: The extraordinary story of Kim Yo Jong, the most powerful woman in North Korea. United Kingdom: Macmillan. p. x-xi. ISBN 9781529073539.
^ Official North Korean biographies of Kim Jong Il list his birth year as 1942. The Korean calendar is based upon the Chinese zodiac which is believed to characterize one's personality. The year 1942 (Year of the Horse), in addition to being 30 years since Kim Il Sung's birth may be viewed as a better year than others, thus creating a motive to lie about a birth year.
^ Official North Korean biographies of Kim Jong Un list his birth year as 1982. The Korean calendar is based upon the Chinese zodiac which is believed to characterize one's personality. The year 1982 (Year of the Dog), in addition to being 70 years since Kim Il Sung's birth, may be viewed as a better year than others, thus creating a motive to lie about a birth year.
^ Birth year for Kim Ju-ae is not publicly known. She may have been born in either late 2012 or early 2013.

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[5] To keep the tree of manageable size, it omits five out of the seven known legitimate children of Kim Il Sung. Other children not shown in the tree are: Kim Man-il (1944-1947; child of Kim Jong Suk), Kim Kyong-jin (1952-; child of Kim Song-ae), Kim Yong-il (1955-2000; child of Kim Song-ae), and Kim Kyong Suk (1951-; child of Kim Song-ae). A stillborn daughter is also omitted. Kim Il Sung was reported to have had other children with women who he was not married to; they included Kim Hyŏn-nam (born 1972). Also, only some of the descendants of Kim Jong Il and Kim Jung Un (Kim Il Sung's successors) are included.

[6] Korean names often have a variety of transliterations into English, which can be confusing. For example, "Kim Jong-chul" may also be written "Gim Jeong-cheol" or "Kim Jŏng-ch'ŏl" among many other variations. See Korean romanization for more information.

[7] Huss, Kan; Frost, Clay. "North Korea's First Family: Mapping the personal and political drama of the Kim clan". msnbc.com. Archived from the original on 2012-02-04. Retrieved 20 January 2013. (Confirms many, but not all, of the birth and death years. See individual articles for more references.)

[8] Yan, Holly (16 February 2017). "The world's most mysterious family tree: Kim Jong Un's secretive dynasty is full of drama, death". Design by Alberto Mier. CNN. Retrieved 16 February 2017.

[9] Lee, Sung-Yoon (2023). "The Mount Paektu Dynasty (Family Tree)". The Sister: The extraordinary story of Kim Yo Jong, the most powerful woman in North Korea. United Kingdom: Macmillan. p. x-xi. ISBN 9781529073539.

[uncertainty2-10] Official North Korean biographies of Kim Jong Il list his birth year as 1942. The Korean calendar is based upon the Chinese zodiac which is believed to characterize one's personality. The year 1942 (Year of the Horse), in addition to being 30 years since Kim Il Sung's birth may be viewed as a better year than others, thus creating a motive to lie about a birth year.

[uncertainty1-11] Official North Korean biographies of Kim Jong Un list his birth year as 1982. The Korean calendar is based upon the Chinese zodiac which is believed to characterize one's personality. The year 1982 (Year of the Dog), in addition to being 70 years since Kim Il Sung's birth, may be viewed as a better year than others, thus creating a motive to lie about a birth year.

[uncertainty3-12] Birth year for Kim Ju-ae is not publicly known. She may have been born in either late 2012 or early 2013.

[1] NIS "Kim Jong Un's first son, and Ju-ae homeschooling in Pyongyang."

[2] "Does Kim Jong Un have another child, besides Ju-ae?"

[3] South Korea says again that Kim Jong Un has three children, and the eldest is a son

[4] "Kim Jong Un's first and third children"

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Kim Jong-joo
김정주
Born	c. 2010 (aged 13-14) North Korea
Nationality	Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Parents	Kim Jong Un (father) Ri Sol-ju (mother)
Relatives	Kim Ju-ae (sister), Kim Yo Jong (aunt)
Family	Mount Paektu bloodline · Jeonju Kim clan

Korean name
Chosŏn'gŭl	김정주
Revised Romanization	Gim Jeongju
McCune–Reischauer	Kim Chŏngju