User talk:Yankees10/Archive 6

Dextor Clinkscale

Hi, could you explain to me which policies i need to keep in mind in regards to the information for this player ?, i wasn't aware of any policies not being followed on this case. Thanks.

Matt Clement

Hi there, I exist (Matthew Samuel) and would appreciate that you didn't delete me. Clement the ballplayer doesn't have a monopoly on the name or the person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vonpike (talk • contribs) 23:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Ahmad Hawkins

Why did you erase the info I gave you on Ahmad Hawkins?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxmsveetxx (talk • contribs) 13:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Mike Tomlin

My goal is to standardize all of the entries for NFL head coaches, beginning with the current ones. Hence my addition to Tomlin's page, which I have recently standardized for every current coach except Bill Belichick (His entry has a substantial section, and I don't want to undermine it before setting up some standard first). I'm certainly willing to concede that Mike Tomlin does not have an influential or lengthy coaching tree considering his young career. I think, however, it is notable to see who head coaches previously served under, and which of their assistants have become head coaches. I would propose that the lists remain on all pages, and that further explanation be included on those coaches for whom it is relevant (Bill Belichick, Tony Dungy, Bill Parcells, etc.). I have not begun working on any past head coaches yet, with the intent to clean up the current slate first.J. Matthew Bailey (talk) 06:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy delete tags

Anyone other than the article's author can remove these tags. This indicates there is some indication the subject is notable, and that it's not a clear case. The next step would be discussion. You can ask the person why they think it's notable, and if you're not satisfied you can take it to wp:AfD. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

I think the key words you used were "got away with". I notice the Dez Bryant article is A-okay, and the speedy nom was declined. Just because someone gets away with something doesn't mean it's a good idea. If speedy deletion is contested you can certainly take it to wp:AfD. I would suggest following the advice of good faith editors who steer you right, rather than imitating things that seem shady. I don't think there's a hard and fast rule about re-adding a speedy tag, but it's kind of bad form when it's contested, because it's a clear indication that it's not a clear case which is the whole basis for a speedy deletion. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:16, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

What do you think about this article and AfD: NFC South Curse? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome to participate in the AfD. Make sure to include your reasoning. Keep in mind that a merge is also an option, and articles are deleted or kept based on notability. Have fun. ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

College players

Matt Tennant : was the center of Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan during his college years

Andre Callender: was the runningback of BC and the RB of Ryan

James McCluskey: received passes from Ryan

Anthony Castonzo : helped Ryan to be a heisman candidate in 2007‎ as a offensive line member

Bryant Hahnfeldt: scored the 2008 Music City Bowl ‎wiinning field goal and give Vanderbilt his first bowl in 53 years . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nextheisman (talk • contribs) 03:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Baseball Hall of Famers

Hey Yankees how are you doin'? I was wondering if you can help me to get User:Kinston eagle to understand that when players are voted in the Hall of Fame that they are Hall of Famers. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 21:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

He has already tried to convince me that Wikipedia has the power to change reality by consensus, and he wasn't successful. Kinston eagle (talk) 21:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Explanation

Why did you remove the changes I made to the Brian Dawkins' entry? I think the fact that he's the longest tenured athlete in Philadelphia is a relevant point, one which is easily verifiable, well-known in the Philly area but not outside of it, and is an interesting piece of information that deserves to be on the page --- in other words, exactly the sort of thing you'd find on wikipedia. Please explain. Surely the reason can't be that there is too much information on the page --- check out the Ed Reed entry by comparison. If you wanted to change the wording of it or relocate it to another portion of the article, then fine --- but to delete it entirely is unnecessary.Stoops Mike (talk) 18:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits to Jackie Robinson infobox

FYI, I opened a discussion of a recent edit made by User:Smel4727 to the Jackie Robinson infobox and your subsequent reversion of it. If you'd like to contribute to the discussion, please see Talk:Jackie Robinson#1945 Negro League All Star game. BRMo (talk) 03:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: American Football player articles

Yeah, I'd be interested in doing some more articles! Perhaps you could make a subpage at WP:NFL with requested articles so multiple people can work on the list. How many players are on the list? Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 00:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, give me a list of some of the players. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 00:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That should be good for now. Just send me the link to new requested players article once you complete it. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 01:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That would work. At the hockey project, we have Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey/Requested_articles. Patken4 (talk) 16:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Smith

Which Jeff Smith do you want an article on? There are five that I can find, and there is already an article on the running back. I think you want the offensive lineman since he was the only other one who played more than one year. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 00:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

• I use DatabaseFootball. Is more reliable than the other? Patken4 (talk) 00:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Chris Brown

Why is his article now located at Chris R. Brown (running back)?►Chris Nelson^Holla! 04:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment

Thanks, I think AWB does that as an automated edit when I edit the page. Is it messing anything up?--Kumioko (talk) 02:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I added a new section to WP:baseball. I think you should read it and offer your opinion.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 10:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Jackal4

Jackal4 has run amok on a number of baseball pages. Pls take a look at my comments on his discussion page -- perhaps you can talk sense into him. Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

why

Please stop erasing i wont do it anymore i will post good stuff but just stop erasing everything —Preceding unsigned comment added by Footballman176 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

confused

so i cant add anything?(Footballman176 (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)).

ok

k Footballman176 (talk) 21:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Henry?

why did u take away the Henry trade? Footballman176 (talk) 22:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

When moving pages

Please check for What links here and fix the redirects. Enigma^msg 03:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Larry English

Hi. Larry English was on my watchlist from its previous incarnation. To answer your question asked in this edit summary, the previous incarnation was deleted because it was a copy/paste of his official bio at http://www.niuhuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/english_larry00.html. Regardless of notability articles which are a copyright violation and have no valid version to revert to are deleted, but that deletion is without prejudice towards creating a new non-infringing article. (What you have created is fine and has no problems whatsoever - since I performed the deletion, I just wanted to answer your question.) --B (talk) 18:50, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Morgan Trent

A tag has been placed on Morgan Trent requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Jenuk1985 | Talk 21:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

March 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Morgan Trent, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Jenuk1985 | Talk 21:43, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Morgan Trent

I have nominated Morgan Trent, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Morgan Trent. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Jenuk1985 | Talk 22:18, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Yankees10, I realize why you want this article to stay and quite frankly I don't care if it does. Like you, I know the guy is likely to be notable in the near future. However, right now he doesn't meet the notability guidelines and thus you can't be upset it gets deleted. Per the guidelines, it probably should not be here. My advice - copy and paste the page to a sandbox of yours in case it gets deleted, then re-create it when he's drafted.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 22:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I understand and share your concern but be aware of WP:Canvassing. The best thing to do to raise awareness is to post neutrally in an open place like WP:DELSORT. Cheers! DoubleBlue (talk) 23:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I assumed that was an innocent transgression. Your heart was in the right place. DoubleBlue (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Bob Carpenter

Sure, I made his page. Adam Penale (talk) 18:31, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I do occasionally create football player pages. Adam Penale (talk) 18:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Seahawks QB nav box

If you look at the nav boxes for the Seattle Seahawks, you will see that they have all been changed from navy to Seahawks blue (the PRIMARY color of the team). So please do not revert back to navy. Thanks.Richiekim (talk) 15:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Jackal4

FYI, Jackal4 has been blocked for the second time this month -- this time for a 30-day period. See [1].--Epeefleche (talk) 08:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Hank Arft

Done, Adam Penale (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Jerry Bell (baseball)

Also done. Adam Penale (talk) 17:49, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

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History merge complete

FYI, the history merge you requested a while back is now done. I have buttons back so feel free to let me know of similar history splits. —Wknight94 (talk) 19:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Pat Williams is done too. —Wknight94 (talk) 19:31, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

AfDs

As you know User:Gjr rodriguez is creating a load of meaningless articles and here are eight AfD's Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cole Garner Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Nelson (baseball) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dayton Buller Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antonio DeJesus Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jared Hyatt (baseball) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cody Strait Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Dickerson Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Josh Johnson (infielder) Thanks.--Giants27 ^T/C 00:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Nick Adenhart

Please check with the team website. Adenhart is still listed. A transaction is still necessary to remove him from the roster. I'm not sure how long it will take before they do that, but due to the mourning I don't expect they're in a rush. --Muboshgu (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Understood, but the page is pretty clear on the fact that he is deceased. Half the page is dedicated to discussion of his death. So, the infobox lists his game against the A's as his last ML appearance, because it was his last appearance. However, he's still listed on the team roster until they take whatever step they need to take to remove his name. It's the same, in this respect, as when a team signs a free agent, makes a trade, or releases a player. We need to wait until he's removed from their roster (which will happen soon enough) before we remove the roster navbox and Angels from the infobox. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

We will have to agree to disagree. And I agree that I don't want to sit by my computer reverting this change for the next couple days. --Muboshgu (talk) 20:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Revere

I don't dislike you; he's not on the Twins' 40 man roster. Saying he is in his infobox is inaccurate. I also don't see why you feel a need to lift his career highlights from his infobox and sectionalize the article into one sentence sections.

On a different note, I went to the Miracle home opener last night. Revere made an unbelievable catch in center. I look forward to watching him this season.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 11:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

You kinda lost me a little. I'm not an expert on the Wikipedia thing, but if a navbox is more appropriate than the template, then fine. Change it. Right now, I have the template on all existing Miracle players, but if you correct Revere's, I'll copy it and paste it on the pages of the other players in place of what is there. My thinking is that breaking up the article into sections or not is a matter of style. In my opinion, Revere's article is a borderline stub, and thus too short to necessitate breaking up into sections, however, I'm not the end all final authory on his or anyone else's article.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 19:14, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

OK, I looked at it in your sandbox. I'm not 100% sure what a sandbox is, but that's where people practice stuff, and what they do there isn't official on the site, right? Is there an official one that can go on the sites?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that thing you created, you created in your sandbox. If it's more appropriate for the article on Ben Revere and the other articles that I put the Miracle roster on, then I should probably change it. I can't just take it out of your sandbox, can I?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:30, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Steve Trapilo

Done, Adam Penale (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

April 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Craig Biggio. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Morbidthoughts (talk) 19:17, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Glover Quin

You bitch.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 16:54, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

AFD

Will you vote and throw in your two cents at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Nalbone?►Chris Nelson^Holla! 22:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't presume to know what I do and don't follow. I enjoy football, I also know some policy here. It's that simple. Grsz¹¹ 22:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok well, you made a stupid decision, he is clearly notable.--Yankees10 22:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

No policy anywhere says this guy is notable. WP:ATHLETE specifically says just the opposite, it's that simple. Grsz¹¹ 22:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

It's not just WP:ATHLETE that matters, so apparently you need to brush up on more policy.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 22:25, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

No, but it's in there as well. He can pass that and not others and be notable, but he doesn't. Grsz¹¹ 22:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

He is a professional football player now, and is therefore notable, I am not going to argue with it at my talk page, so leave it at the AFD page.--Yankees10 22:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

How about checking out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Wyche and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nick Schommer?--Giants27 ^T/C 01:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

• Re this, I don't want to fill up the page with how it should be, etc. Maybe it needs changed, maybe not, that's not what the argument is about. As WP:ATHLETE reads now, he isn't notable, and that's the bottom line. Grsz¹¹ 02:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Then the policy's bad, and we should change it. Plain and simple.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Can you also check out these ones, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Robinson (American football), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaymar Johnson, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matt Sherry and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Denney.--Giants27 ^T/C 23:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

UDFAs

Hey, I was just gonna let you know that Giants27 and I agreed to not create many articles for UDFAs, at least until camp rolls around. If we do right away, we'll just end up with some articles of guys who leave the teams and never com back or guys who get cut in June and are never heard from again. If you're going to create any UDFA articles, try to make sure they had extensive, quality collegiate careers and were kind of "fringe-draftable" players. Sort of like a Davone Bess or something. That cool?►Chris Nelson^Holla! 00:25, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

WP:ATHLETE

Hey, can you throw in your $0.2 here?--Giants27 ^T/C 11:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Heyward-Bey

Hopefully the other editor is done as well, but watch the 3RR. Grsz¹¹ 02:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Herrod

I seen you edited the site Jeff Herrod, is there a reason, Thank you, webmaster of Jeffherrod.com Ednason —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ednason (talk • contribs) 04:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC) Gotcha! I just got back in town and will work on this week... thanks for the update... I am also working on 4 other clients webpages and will work on Wikipedia format! thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ednason (talk • contribs) 06:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Letter X vs. multiplication sign ×

Please explain here what bothers you about that. --bender235 (talk) 16:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Or since we're in the computer age, what about the * instead of the X? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 16:18, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar!

Thanks for the Barnstar! Patken4 (talk) 21:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Nice work

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	I've been gone for a while and after looking at some Packers pages I see your user name everywhere. Just wanted to say good work and keep it up! :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

RE: Austin Romine

I think userfication is your best bet. Asking one of the admins to recreate this page with the name User:Yankees10/Austin Romine. I hope this helps.

		The article you created was just deleted?
		All is not lost. Here is what you can do right now:
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Ikip (talk) 14:19, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Lawrence Timmons

OK, please quit reverting the edits I'm making. Most other famous people that have kids have it noted on their Wikipedia page, and the source I had it from is from Timmons's official web site.

As for his middle name, which has been left alone (for once, and thank you), the only reason there's not a source to that was because it was mentioned during a playoff game this past year that his middle name is Olajuwon and I can't find anything listed.

Please just leave the Lawrence Timmons page alone. Thanks! Jgera5 (talk) 01:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Template order

im sure if you were a sports player and you had a page im sure you would want your acclompishments in order....

Re:

Yeah sure no problem although I personally think that an admin could do more than I could since if he continues he could realistically be blocked.--Giants27 (t|c|r|s) 00:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:Roc-A-Fella Records

Yeah, about that. I have sources. This source confirms Uncle Murda leaving, this confirms Freeway leaving and this confirms Memphis Bleek leaving. These prove that they have left Roc-A-Fella, even though they are still affiliated with Roc-A-Fella, they are NOT on the roster anymore. Clearly there are sources, you haven't been looking hard enough. Please do not revert, these sources come from creditable sites. --Taylor Karras (talk) 11:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Baseball Infobox Teams

Thanks for the note. Do you have a link to the WP:Baseball discussion of this so I can take a look at it myself? Thanks again. - Masonpatriot (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

AfDs

Can you take a look at these AfDs: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Mendenhall, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liam O'Hagan, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/C. J. Bacher and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Mortensen, thanks.--Giants27 (c|s) 12:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

REVERT

Please read b4 you revert. I made a correction, i didn't label the article a stub. [2] CashRules (talk) 18:11, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

McGwire and the record

Mark McGwire owns the record for most home runs in a single season at 70. It is a record and it should be in his page. In case you did not read the rest of the post or whatever you call it, and tell me it's not a record. I know a lot about the record - I saw him hit it off of Steve Trachsel. What do you say now? NOT A RECORD?! 66lemieux99 (talk) 20:17, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Bonds owns the record with 73, last I heard. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 20:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Really? Last I heard Maris had it with 61. :)--Giants27 (c|s) 20:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Look at Mark McGwire's web page! No wonder Wikipedia is not a credible source! I'll erase the other person's claim that McGwire has the record. 66lemieux99 (talk) 20:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

What "web page" are you talking about? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 20:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I think he means the article but I could be wrong.--Giants27 (c|s) 20:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

He's making very little sense. But at least he now appears to understand that Bonds holds the record. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 20:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's the story. Mark McGwire's article states that McGwire owns the record - which he does not - and I did not know. Blame Wikipedia and it's non-credibility. Sorry about all this. Just forget about it. 66lemieux99 (talk) 20:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The thing is how do you not know Bonds broke the record. You are obviousley a baseball fan or you would have not edited McGwires article. It seems odd to me.--Yankees10 20:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually the article said he broke the record, which was true. The user finally figured it out an added the point that Bonds now owns the record. That could be stated better, but at least it's a little clearer now. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 20:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not a fan of Barry Bonds and I do not follow Barry Bonds. I never talk about him and I never will again. Mark McGwire is my hero as he demolished my worst enemy in 1998, Steve Trachsel. Barry Bonds is a huge cheater, and should never own that record. THE END! Forget about it, please! (Or else I'll delete the topic.) 66lemieux99 (talk) 22:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

See WP:TALKPAGE and maybe WP:CIVIL.--Giants27 (c|s) 22:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

They all cheated, Bonds just did it better. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots 23:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Stats

Hi. I've notices that you've been acting as a sort of gatekeeper for stats on the infoboxes, and was wondering why, as in the Pir Traynor article, we should not include a Triple Crown category stat (in HR) or a stat where he is on the top 500 list? There is room for 6 stat categories for each infobox, what is the reason, other than personal aesthetics and preference, for non-inclusion. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I really don't see the issue. Thanks. - Masonpatriot (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, that's a slight misrepresentation of what the template doc says... it says, referring to the first stat line, "the most important statistic for evaluating this player. Will vary according to what the player is most well-known for." This obviously refers only to the first stat line. The only other guidance is on the stat2 line, "another statistic (up to six can be used--in exceptional cases!)." So my questions still stands, since the "mot important" standard applies only to the first stat line, I don't see the reason why to exclude a Triple Crown category and a stat where the player is ranked on the all-time list article. Again, not trying to be a pest, but I just want a rationale. Thanks. - Masonpatriot (talk) 18:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and I appreciate you saying as much. My take is that the stat listings should not automatically default to what is most favorable to the player (though I don't view Trayor or Alou not hitting a ton of HRs as a negative, by default). I think the inclusion of thos stats, especially Triple Crown stats, help a casual reader see the type of player they were. Also, just seeing that more than three stats are often used for active players, there are often just three used for retired players because the old "retired" infobox had only three spots. Anyway, thanks again. (P.S. - Just saw that you are a Bucs fan too... I think we're in for a rocky season!). - Masonpatriot (talk) 19:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Why I added the Billy Mays hatnote back in

Looking at traffic statistics, it seems that the number of views on Willie Mays jumped suddenly from under 1000 per day to over 16000. And you can see on Talk:Willie Mays that at least a few people didn't realize that it was Billy Mays who had died even after coming to this article and seeing nothing. (The response explaining the confusion was added a few hours after the rest.) I think that for the meantime at least it is a good idea to leave the hatnote in. -- Soap ^Talk/_{Contributions} 01:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)