User talk:VanishedUser 2313214sad1/Archives/2013/April

Adoption

Hi Nerdfighter. Are you still interested in continuing adoption by Go Phightins! You have not been around for 2 weeks, so I just wanted to remind you about it. Wouldn't want you to be archived as inactive. Thanks. JHUbal27•Talk•E-mail 23:47, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah sure, I've just been busy recently with family stuff so I haven't been all too active. Thanks for the message, I will continue with the adoption. — nerdfighter 23:34, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I know how busy real life can be. That's fine Nerdfighter, I'll let Phightins know. JHUbal27•Talk•E-mail 00:22, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh man, I keep forgetting about the adoption.. I think I'll stop with it. Nontheless, Go Phightins has been a good adopter and you have been great yourself. Cheers! nerdfighter 03:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nerdfighter. Sorry to hear you'd like to stop. I'll let Phightins know. Please be advised that when I do, you will lose your seat, as there is another adoptee waiting. Also, I may be interested in CVUA training once I am done with adoption. However, I might not be ready for it yet because I want to help Phightins out. I willl consider it though. Thanks. ~~JHUbal27 05:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'd hate to hold a seat that I'm not using. Alright cool, once your ready for CVUA just leave Jackson or me a message. Thanks! nerdfighter 11:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Hello! Just wanted to check in and wish you a happy Easter! I know that you're busy, but I sent a user your way for potential CVUA training if/when you both (ever) have time! I hope all is well! --Jackson Peebles (talk) 17:44, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

You caught me online ! Happy Easter to you too! Thanks for sending them over. I was meaning to ask, would you like to be a trainer in my CVU school? You meet all my requirements and I could use a hand. If you are busy or don't feel like it, no worries . Thanks — nerdfighter 17:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I'm perfectly happy to help out in any way that I can! Bear in mind that I have never done this before, so I will need some guidance to get started, but if you give me explicit instructions on what to do, I'm happy to help. I'm very good at checking diffs! --Jackson Peebles (talk) 19:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! That's great to hear. As of right now, the only help I need is recruiting potential trainees. You can find a recruitment message at the top of user:nerdfighter/CVUA/template. Thanks again. nerdfighter 22:41, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Y I'm on it. Let me know if you need anything else! --Jackson Peebles (talk) 03:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much! You can also find the "course" on user:nerdfighter/CVUA/template (I know it is mostly just tests and no lessons). I am going to start adding actual lessons and if you want to change some stuff, feel free. Cheers nerdfighter 21:49, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I added some helpful links that look like this to every section:

Helpful links

• WP:EXAMPLE
• WP:EXAMPLE
• WP:EXAMPLE
• WP:EXAMPLE

Feel free to add more to any section! nerdfighter 00:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Would you be interested in doing work with trainees? Now that I have the template down, there isn't much to it beside answering questions and marking tests Also if you are unsure of anything you can just leave it for me to check out. posted on phone- sorry for any errors nerdfighter 03:27, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey!

Hope you're doing well, my friend :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 05:20, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey man I'm doing great thanks, how about you? nerdfighter 11:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

doubt

u just now replied me on my talkpage

i could not understand clearly, could u please elaborate more? so that i can understand better. also u did not answer how to become member of a wikipedia project Arja36 (talk) 19:14, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!

At Teahouse Question Miss Bono (talk) 13:13, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries :) If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! nerdfighter 14:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Adoption

Nerdfighter, I heard that you wanted to leave adoption and have consequently marked your adoption page for speedy deletion under criterion U1. Don't worry, though, your answers, should you ever want to finish up, are stored in my archive. I hope that you learned something from the course that you can apply to your future editing. I wish you the best of luck in your work at CVUA and wherever else you may decide to work. If you ever need any help, I am always available over yonder at my talk page. Thanks for being such a great adoptee. Respectfully yours, Go Phightins! 19:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay thanks. nerdfighter 20:53, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Confirming cloak request

nerdfighter 00:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

CVUA training request.

I'd like to know more about your CVUA training program so I can get actively involved with the project. Thanks. Technical 13 (talk) 00:48, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Technical 13! Thanks for the message. The course has units covering the difference between good faith and bad faith edits, warnings, anti-vandalism tools, speedy deletion, & protection. It also has an optional unit on reviewing. If you want a spot just drop me a message and I'll set you up. nerdfighter 01:17, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I would like that. Technical 13 (talk) 09:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay your course can be found here: user:Nerdfighter/CVUA/Technical 13

Jackson Peebles will be helping me out, so don't be freaked out if you see him around nerdfighter 15:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Host profile featuring

Hi there Nerdfighter. Just letting you know that I've updated the HostBot scripts that feature hosts as per our discussion at the Teahouse. However, in order to feature your profile, I had to edit your section heading. The section heading for your profile needs to match you username exactly (inside the noinclude tags) in order for HostBot to see it. I made this change for you, but feel free to revert me if you'd rather use a formatted username than have your profile appear in the featured host gallery. Cheers, - J-Mo ^{Talk to Me} _{Email Me} 22:32, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Thats fine nerdfighter 17:51, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

CVUA

I've finished section one for you to review when you have a moment. Technical 13 (talk) 14:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, cheers :) nerdfighter 21:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Rollback badge

How do I get the badge thing that is shown on the top of your page that shows that you have rollback rights? Could you help me with getting that, please? -- Lee Tru. 19:21, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) That badge is the {{Rollback topicon}} template. The badge itself is just an icon though, and in itself won't grant rollback rights. Rollback itself can be requested at this page Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 19:29, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

DRN organisers

Hello. I am just letting you know that I've made a proposal to create a rotating DRN organiser-style role that would help with the day-to-day running of DRN. As you are a listed volunteer at DRN, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, and the other open proposals at DRN. You can read more about it here. Thanks! Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 00:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Counter vandalism

I did all the lessons you set for me. also, on a unrelated topic, I applied for and was denied rollback rights (sad face) but when I look at a users contribs. I see a rollback button. What gives? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lee Tru. (talk • contribs) 18:39, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Since Nf is on WP:Wikibreak I'm going to answer this for you. That is a part of Twinkle. Have yourself a good read and if you still have questions, feel free to post them here, as I watch this page. Technical 13 (talk) 18:51, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks T13 :) nerdfighter 01:11, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Signpost

How do I subscribe to the signpost? Could you please help get me set up with that? Thanks!-- Lee Tru. 15:35, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lee! You can add this to the list at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe: #[[User talk:Lee Tru.|Lee Tru.]] The latest edition delivered to your talk page as it comes out. Cheers, nerdfighter 17:00, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for uninvolved 3rd party to comment.

Hello. I am requesting your opinions at Talk:Thomas Savage (died 1611)#Move and add to Thomas Savage as a third party to a discussion which I feel is nearing an impasse. I feel confident that if you chose to participate, your comments ideas and suggestions will be neutral and non-biased in favor or against either of the currently involved participants. If you do not wish to participate, I understand and respect your wishes. Thank you. Technical 13 (talk) 19:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Whats with the flourey words? -- Lee Tru. 21:36, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

It was a copy pasted topic suggestion that I posted for a number of people to see. Some I felt would support and others I felt "might" oppose and I wanted to make sure that my suggestion to check it out was non-influential and smelled like a beautiful spring flower. ;) Technical 13 (talk) 21:47, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

CVUA

I did all the CUVA lessons you set for me. Also, once I graduate, I will reapply for rollback rights (as my pitch was that I would use it to fight vandalism and to clean up if my bot goes bad) and if I get them, I would like the assistant job. Thanks -- Lee Tru. 21:34, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing! See below concerning the CVUA course. nerdfighter 22:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

To CVUA trainees

Sorry I have neglected to grade and provide feedback on your CVUA pages recently. I won't have time tonight, but tomorrow I can check them out. nerdfighter 22:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

No worries from me, I haven't had time to work on it recently... Busy studying for my real exams in college. Few more weeks and I'll be done the semester. I'll likely work on my CVUA page if I get a moment in the middle. As a side-note, Lee asked me if I wanted to work together on it, and I told him no thanks, but I wouldn't be opposed to helping if he was struggling on a specific thing and you agreed that perhaps running it through my brain might offer an alternative wording that might be helpful to him. Technical 13 (talk) 22:56, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Requesting your opinion.

My user page was recently vandalized, and one of my talk page stalkers quickly reverted it. Since then I've looked into user page edit notices, and have created one for my talk page and one for my user page. Would you take a look at the one for my userpage and tell me if you think it is too bold or offensive. Well, I actually don't care, that was kind of the point, what I'm more worried about is whether or not it is appropriate. Will I catch any slack for having big blinking text telling people not to edit my userpage? The one for my talk page I'm thinking will be fine. Technical 13 (talk) 00:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello again Technical 13! I think your talk page notice may confuse some very new editors because, at least on my smallish screen, I have to scroll down to the edit section. Perhaps just shorten it a little so the edit section is visible without scrolling. Just some thoughts :) nerdfighter 00:31, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I use wikEd which automatically takes me right to the edit box. I'm see if I can shorten it a little. I'm more concerned with people complaining my user page one isn't appropriate with the blinking. Technical 13 (talk) 00:41, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Erm.. I'm unsure if this is because of my browser settings or what, but I don't see any blinking. nerdfighter 18:04, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you looking at my Userpage notice or my Talkpage notice. Note, some browsers don't render blinking and most of the ones that do allow you to turn it off. Also, I've tried to shorten the talk page one a little, is that better? Technical 13 (talk) 18:41, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Meh, I'm ok with the notices, but if someone has a problem with either of them, just change it. Not something to row with them over nerdfighter 18:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I have a question for you: You're good with templates right? I am making a template: template:aka and I want to add a variable so if aka=y "better known as" will change to "also known as". How would I do that? nerdfighter 18:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, you would probably do it the simplest way using {{yesno}} as {{yesno|{{{aka|(default value)}}}|yes=also known as|no=better known as}} Technical 13 (talk) 19:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

on a semi-related topic could one of you help me with page/talk page edit notices? I want the one nerdfighter has on his talk page, and one that askes people not to edit my user page. also couldyou help me archive my talk page (its getting rather long)? Thanks for all the help! p.s. I'm a host at the Teahouse! -- Lee Tru. 21:41, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Great to hear you are a host! Sure, I'll set you up with the edit notice :) nerdfighter 22:42, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Just post this to user:Lee Tru./edit notice:

{{editnotice | id = | header =<font color=#AE0000>Warning</font color=#AE0000> | headerstyle =font-size: 150%; | text = You are editing the userpage of Lee Tru.. Please ask for his permission before you edit. | textstyle =font-size: 140%; | image =[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|60px]] }}

nerdfighter 22:50, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Now why did that not work? it shows up on that subpage, but not anywhere else -- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 14:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hmm.. I'm not sure. Sorry Lee, it worked for me nerdfighter 01:23, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Lee, it is an editnotice for your user page, therefor it should only show up on itself or above the editbox when editing your user page. Technical 13 (talk) 01:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Re. Archive

Sure, your proposal (using cluebot) sounds great! please do that. -- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 14:37, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks for helping me to archive my page! Thus Spake Lee Tru. 19:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem Lee, and thanks for the barnstar nerdfighter 00:25, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

For your recent helpfulness at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions.

Stuartyeates (talk) 08:34, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

CUVA

I fixed the question you told me to fix.-- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 12:53, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Twinkle

I was wondering, if you can rollback edits with twinkle, what's the point of rollback rights? p.s. it's fun to welcome new users w/ twinkle (though nobody ever welcomed me.) (sad face) -- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 13:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Block appeal of User:Lucretius

I thought it might be helpful for me - I think I am a reputable editor whose record here of good-faith and non-disruptive editing is unimpeachable - to raise some questions about your quite summary response to the admittedly cantankerous unblock request of User:Lucretius. This user went serially through several identities (user accounts) on English Wikipedia. The SPI seems to have found that this violated SP policy and justified an indefinite ban.

On the other hand, it should be pointed out that the user is 100% correct in asserting that he always publicly announced his change of identity on his user pages, and also brought it up in discussions. Certainly I, and I believe the majority of active subject editors in Classics, was always aware of these shifts, even if they had the potential to confuse the more casual participant in the encyclopedia's work. The user's consistent announcement of identity-change information shows to my satisfaction, beyond any doubt, that in fact the changes of identity were not motivated by any intent to deceive. Under these circumstances, I have been very surprised that, instead of a permanent ban for sock-puppetry, the user could not be given a six-month ban (time served at this point) conditional on a promise to stay confined to one user account for the perpetual future. In fact, there may have been an attempt to get him to pursue such a solution, but it was half-hearted and easily defeated by the user's indignant self-defense. The problem is that the self-defense did have some real merit behind it, and we should probably decide on the merits instead of based on whether we like the kind of noise that's being blown at us by a user with strong feelings.

Like anyone who has dealt with this user, I have had a checkered experience and seen aspects of his editing that seemed less than productive - I would be the last person to assert that he is a paragon of the Wikipedian ethos. However, he has also brought knowledge, passion, and hard work to improving the encyclopedia. If the community had held a discussion about his disruptive editing and handed out a commensurate block penalty, you would not be hearing any protest from me. However, the narrow sockpuppet issue seems to have been misused in my opinion, and Wikipedia would do credit to itself if it allowed this user to continue to edit in a single account (since he never used multiple accounts duplicitously) and deal with any non-sockpuppet issues that continue to arise in his editing under their own heading.

This user has not made it easy for administrators to be on his side. That's why I'm writing this. I think it's a case where, to treat him on the merits, we have to ignore his ranting and raving and versifying a bit, and look carefully at the substance. Perhaps that's an unearned indulgence, but it would speak well to the culture of fairness at Wikipedia if we could do it. I'm a bit disengaged from Wikipedia right now, but I have long experience of Wikipedia and of this editor in particular, and I hope this note is enough to make some review on the merits take place - if not by you, then perhaps you can hand it up to some other administrators who you feel could reconsider a tough case in a way that would earn the respect of all observers.

Respectfully yours and with best regards, Wareh (talk) 15:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello Wareh I completely understand your thoughts on the matter. The reason I declined is because his unblock request was primarily denying what he did was against policy. These kinds of requests are usually declined. However, if he chooses to make another unblock request that acknowledges where he erred, I'm sure an administrator will read it and accept the request. I hope you and he understand. I will leave a talkback notice on his talk so he sees this response. Cheers nerdfighter 15:37, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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CVUA

Hey, just a heads up, I've completed the available units for the CVUA training program and look forward to the next chapters. Technical 13 (talk) 01:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Cheers Technical 13. I'll start grading that and post the next units nerdfighter 14:46, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello

Just popping in to say hello - how are things? --Jackson Peebles (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Great thanks! How's the adoption HQ going nerdfighter 00:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Your signature, friendly advice

Hey Nf, I'm looking at your signature, and see some broken html elements/ poorly formed css. Currently, I see:

<b>[[User:Nerdfighter|<font color=#088A08>nerd</font color=#088A08>]][[User_Talk:Nerdfighter|<font color=#0489B1>fighter</font color=#0489B1>]]</b>

To have an HTML strict compatible signature, might I suggest changing it to:

'''[[User:Nerdfighter|<span style="color:#088A08;">nerd</span>]][[User_Talk:Nerdfighter|<span style="color:#0489B1;">fighter</span>]]'''

The font element is deprecated in HTML 4.0 Transitional, invalid in HTML 4.0 Strict, and not part of HTML5. Using ''' to wrap bold is one character lighter on your end and the MW core changes it anyways. Lastly, closing tags shouldn't have any attributes. Technical 13 (talk) 17:53, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'll change that now I'm bad with html nerdfighter 17:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

 Fixed nerdfighter 17:59, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't feel too bad. Edit Wikipedia talk:Protected Page Editor/Tally and you will see some truly atrocious HTML coding on signatures. LOL Makes me laugh. ;) Technical 13 (talk) 18:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorta ironic when you think about it ;) nerdfighter 18:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

After all, that right would give them the ability to edit templates :P nerdfighter 00:05, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Many of them with the atrocious HTML in their signatures are already admins... Technical 13 (talk) 21:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Haha, true :P ...Sorry for the wait on CVUA. I am just bad at keeping on top of this stuff I guess. I am almost done grading, and then I'll post the next units. Again, sorry nerdfighter 21:23, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism help

What do I do here[[1]]? Thus Spake Lee Tru. 21:24, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi again Lee. That is misuse of a sandbox, so blank the page and tag for speedy deletion using Twinkle. nerdfighter 21:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Under G1 nerdfighter 21:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I mean G3 nerdfighter 21:46, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

It was already done. Also, I did the first 2 units you gave me, and I have some questions re. Twinkle. Thanks!-- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 21:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Be my CVU trainer

Would you do this for me? I would like to learn the steps to help Wikipedia and boost my chances of becoming an admin and I saw that you were often available. If you could, that'd be great. Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 13:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure! I'll post a link to your CVUA page here sometime tomorrow. Is there anything in particular you would like extra training in? Cheers nerdfighter 17:35, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Here is my CVUA page. Here is what I would like to learn

• 1. What is not vandalism. I occasionally label things as vandalism when it is really a disruptive edit or on occasion, an actual constructice edit. It may seem like a basic that any person should know, but I fight vandalism so much that I accidentally label other things as so.
• 2. I would also like to learn the proper use of various tools. Currently, I use Twinkle.

I hope this helps. Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 18:58, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Okay, cheers. I'm going to make your CVUA page and post the link for it tomorrow- I'm just a bit busy at the moment. I'll be sure to talk about those things in the course. Thanks! nerdfighter 19:02, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem. I will be pretty busy during the week, but on the weekends, I'm usually avaliable. Check my status if necessary. Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 19:05, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh crap you were going to make it. OK, just edit the one I made. Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 19:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Nerdfighter, I have completed Units 1 and 2. What should I do next? Thanks. WorldTraveller101^{Did I mess up?} 20:03, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

CUVA

I did all the lessons you assigned to me. -- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 11:04, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

nerdfighter 15:22, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

• Well what are you doing making checklists!? Get to work! Technical 13 (talk) 16:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I know.. But I'm in school at the moment. nerdfighter 17:39, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh I told you I was done with the one you told me to fix at least on archive ago.-- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 20:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done Lee's nerdfighter 21:13, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Message on 18 April 2013

Hey, Thanks for commenting, I honestly don't remember posting any messages of the sort and am having trouble finding the context of the message I left. I don't even know if it was me who left the message (certainly doesn't sound like me, even eight years ago), it looks like someone signed a previous message with my username using my account. Anyway, thanks for deleting the message and I hope that this doesn't impact my standing on Wikipedia.

- Michael Brown — Preceding unsigned comment added by General Bison (talk • contribs) 07:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't worry about it The warning is stale by now anyhow, so feel free to delete or archive it. Cheers! nerdfighter 16:54, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thank you so much for the help with Twinkle! i can now see why it is the best! Thus Spake Lee Tru. 12:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Victory!

Take a look at this! Ha!Ha! Yeah! Woo!Hoo! [[2]]-- Thus Spake Lee Tru. 20:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)