User talk:Tikuko/Archive

December 2012

Suggestion Hi Tikuko, I noticed your AfD for Utonagon, which led me to your comment on the Talk page. I wonder if it's worth trying to elicit some discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Dogs on the topic of the numerous similar articles on 'mutts' being portrayed as bonafide breeds? It doesn't always appear very active but User:CReep has certainly been trying to regenerate some activity. Perhaps a collaborative effort should be made to check through/correct or even if appropriate, Afd more of these? I think sometimes it's time and the enormity of sorting this kind of thing that works against everyone though! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC) I'll go chat them up (that sounds horrible) and see what they think. My issue isn't so much "mutts as breeds" as it is that people seem to breed any two random dogs together and then think listing their pups on Wikipedia makes it an actual breed of dog - I mean, I disagree with the idea of 'breeds' like Puggles but at least they have the media attention to almost require being listed here (and they aren't being held up as a 'breed'). --Tikuko 19:35, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Please Tikuko, continue to chat us up and chat us up more often! We love the attention :) - cReep talk 07:49, 13 December 2012 (UTC) A Barnstar for you! The Original Barnstar I decided to give you this Barnstar for the work you are doing on List of dog breeds by country; you have much more patience than I do! Well done for taking on such an onerous task and for your diligence in sorting it out. You are doing a terrific job! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:35, 11 December 2012 (UTC) Activity register/companion dog club Hi Tikuko, Let me say again what a brilliant job you've done/are doing with Northern Inuit Dog - hence the barnstar! A really good piece of research, so well done and keep up the excellent work. There is just one tiny little thing to clarify - and it is very tiny! The Kennel Club in the UK nowadays tries to be seen as an official body for all dogs (especially post the Pedigree Dogs Exposed TV programme), so it is trying to be seen to encompass all dogs in some way as it hopes it will then be able to advise government on all sorts of legislation etc. Anyone can register on The Activity Register - see here [1] and the Companion Dog Club is also open to anyone [2] so neither give cross breeds any additional official standing. It's probably more a little additional money spinner for the KC (not that I'm ever cynical about the KC )! There were some problems a few years ago when 'breeders' of Labradoodles, etc were registering dogs on the Activity Register then advertising as 'KC Registered' so it is something that has to be dealt with very carefully or unscrupulous people can twist it to dupe the puppy buying public. I won't be on Wiki quite so much over the next few weeks as family/business commitments will be fairly hectic but will pop by occasionally, so I hope you have a brilliant Christmas and New Year and keep up the good work! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:56, 14 December 2012 (UTC) The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar I give you this barnstar for the terrific work you have done on Northern Inuit Dog! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:03, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Alright, thank you for the information - I'll clarify on the article (or more likely I'll remove it.) I figured it was something similar the AKC's companion dog program. And thank you for the second barnstar! It's greatly appreciated! --Tikuko 18:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC) Barnstar Thank you, Tikuko! No one has ever given me a barnstar before - it is very much appreciated! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC) Small Munsterlander and Anatolian Shepherd Hi Tikuko, If you get the chance, have a look at Small Munsterlander and Anatolian Shepherd. Both articles seem to be getting some very constructive edits by a couple of fairly new editors. I've tried to help a little bit but thought if between the three of us (me, you and cReep) we could keep an eye on them and discreetly help - or at least offer to help as (or when) needed, it would encourage new dog related editors? Maybe leave them to it for a little while to see how they get on at the moment though? What do you guys think? I've posted this on both of your talk pages. I added an info box to Anatolian Shepherd but info boxes are far more cReep's forte than mine!! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:23, 16 December 2012 (UTC) Northern Inuit Dog Thronesgame (talk) 10:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)Hello Tikuko. Great job you wanting to clean up and update the Northern Inuit Dog page, but there is alot of incorrections and non have been citated from the official Northern Inuit Society. There are currenly no pure black NI dogs, These dogs are only bred within the British Isles. the picture is not a verified picture (and does not look like an NI at all), the info breed standard is incorrect. This breed is not a wolf hybrid. If you would like the correct info be happy to help. I apologise I am not a pro or spend my days updating wiki pages so am a beginner, So I dont know how ammend page sectors. Just let me know what you need. Thronesgame Here are some links to NI dog picture. Im sorry I dont know how to add these to Wiki. but these links show the breed, which one you can use im not sure. Pic 1 Pic 2 This picture has gone viral but can not for life find a free use one. Pic 3 Pic 4 all the bestThronesgame (talk) 10:46, 19 December 2012 (UTC) The problem with the photos is that none of those are free-use images. Since it's a type of dog, a nonfree photo is easily replacable with a free-use photo, which means that a free-use photo should be used. Go to flicker and set the search settings to "Creative Commons - Attribution - Sharealike" and see the results that come back? Those are all free photos and are mostly suitable for use in wiki articles. You can read these for more information (I link to these a lot, just click them and you can read about them): WP:I And on the subject of their being 'no black Northern Inuits', that's irrelevant - the standard on the dog's own site lists the acceptable colors as being "Pure white or any Colour Sable from Grey or Apricot through to pure black." We have no way of verifying that there are no black Northern Inuits, since the standard says they are acceptable. See WP:VERIFY. We also can't go on your knowledge alone, as then we would be failing WP:NOR. The picture does not need to be 'verified' (whatever that means) by any group or organization to be used in the Wikipedia article, so I'm going to add it back. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not a reason to destroy a vital part of an article. I'm also aware that the dogs are only bred in Britain but the breed is described as originating in England, which is why it is listed as such. I've reverted your edits again but if you have a better free-use image feel free to add it - or as seems to be the case with these smaller unrecognized crossbreeds, if you happen to breed or own the dogs yourself, go take a picture of one that shows as much of the body as possible (see other dog articles - it doesn't have to be a show pose) and upload it under a free use license. --TKK bark ! 18:30, 19 December 2012 (UTC) 2013 File:Happy New Year 2013.jpg Have an enjoyable New Year! Hello Tikuko: Thanks for all of your great work on dog articles, and have a happy and enjoyable New Year! Cheers, SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:52, 31 December 2012 (UTC) PS:I think the URLs thrones game added to your talk page are making it display oddly? SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC) Thank you, Phil! Happy new years to you too! And it doesn't seem to be affecting anything for me but I'll go change them to wikilinks.--TKK bark ! 19:05, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

January 2013

The Kennel Club Hi, TKK, I've been doing some bits and pieces on The Kennel Club article - admittedly in something of a bit piecemeal fashion! If you get the chance you might be able to glean information from particularly Tom Burrington's Dog World article (ref #11) or the bit about John MacDougall from The Times (ref #7) to expand further. Could I also leave pruning the Pedigree Dogs Exposed bit to you - my opinion of the programme is not good so I may be unduly influenced by bias to successfully edit it back with sufficient neutrality. SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:38, 14 January 2013 (UTC) I'll gladly take care of pruning back that section for you, no problem. I've been watching you work on the article and to be honest I have been extremely impressed, you've done quite a bit of excellent work and the article is now quite a bit better than it was before you started to work on it! I'll look through the references in a bit! --TKK bark ! 17:12, 14 January 2013 (UTC) Brilliant, thanks! There is a small book that was published in 1905, titled "The Kennel Club: A History and Record of its work" by Edward William Jaquet - I can't manage to access it over here but wondered if you might be able to as its out of US copyright? Probably just a long shot! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:21, 14 January 2013 (UTC) Google books might let me in. I'll see if I can find it. --TKK bark ! 17:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, Tikuko. You have new messages at Brambleberry of RiverClan's talk page. Message added 22:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. öBrambleberry of RiverClan 22:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC) Whippet I saw your GA nomination for the Whippet and had just two comments. First, I was wondering about the capitalization of "Whippet" and was wondering if you know the reason why it is uncapaitalized throughout the article? I've looked at the article sources and they seem to capitalize Whippet throughout when mentioning the breed... So that may be something to think about. Also, in the infobox (I'm a huge infobox person) I would recommend rewording the color section. Just some food for thought! - cReep talk 08:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC) I'll fix the capitalization right away, I didn't notice that - that's literally the entire reason it's uncapitalized. As far as the wording in the color section, do you have any suggestion? I like filled-out infoboxes as much as the next guy but I'm not very good at actually, you know, filling them out.--TKK bark ! 08:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC) I just took a look at the color variations the AKC reports... and I have no idea how you can word that all in one simple sentence. Haha! It sounds like they come in practically every color option available... Maybe something along the lines of "solid black, blue, brindle, fawn, red, sable, tan, white, or white with various color markings." - cReep talk 08:54, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Done! I changed the wording a hair because it wasn't clear in the infobox what was meant. Thank you! --TKK bark ! 09:03, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Awesome. Hopefully a GA will be coming your way soon! - cReep talk 09:25, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Here's a really nice source you could add to your article by Dr. Kelly M. Cassidy here. - cReep talk 07:38, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Thank you thank you! --TKK bark ! 13:20, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Merging Is it inappropriate to merge as a 'bold edit' where the merge would be non-controversial, or is it best to wait for concensus? If it's best to wait, is there a way to draw attention to a proposed merger to get more feedback on it? The merger I'm curious about in specific is List of dog breeds by country into List of dog breeds. --TKK bark ! 01:01, 27 January 2013 (UTC) If you're fairly certain nobody will object, it's usually okay to be bold and do the merger, as long as you follow the instructions. In this specific case, I think it's absolutely fine to go ahead, as the discussion has only received one comment, which was supportive. As a broader answer to the question, if you feel that a particular merge proposal needs further discussion, you can do a few things to draw attention to it: Post to the appropriate WikiProject talk page (in this case, it would have been WikiProject Dogs). Start an RFC if the pages involved are popular or cover multiple subject areas. Message some of the major contributors to the articles in question on their talk pages. Hope that's helpful for your future editing. Thanks for your contributions! —Darkwind (talk) 01:22, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Thank you! --TKK bark ! 01:24, 27 January 2013 (UTC) Murray River Curly Coated Retriever Hi Tkk, The Murray River Curly Coated Retriever is not a curly coated retriever. The MRCCR Association has had DNA testing done on a large number of dogs and it has been found the dog is its own breed. It is an Australian dog originally used for duck hunting. As the DNA testing results were only published in October 2012, the Association has only recently sent in the application for recognition. We are only a small group at the moment but are working hard to have the profile of the MRCCR raised. Regards, Dizylizy (talk) 05:07, 27 January 2013 (UTC) dizylizy Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Swinford Bandog For your information, it would have been fine if you'd performed this action; you weren't required to go to WP:ANI. Of course, there's nothing wrong with what you did; I just don't want you to think that you're required to wait for someone else to do it. Nyttend (talk) 01:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC) Alright. I just didn't want to risk doing it and then being accused of, like, changing his comment or something, especially since I'm the person that created the AfD. Thank you, though. I'll keep that in mind for the future! --TKK bark ! 14:36, 26 January 2013 (UTC) Hello...I did a quick review of Tikuko's page and editing philosophy. First things first...I believe a "Hello" is in order. It is nice to see I am speaking with a fellow Animal Sciences scholar, and not just an editor. I will come back to the significance of this shortly. Second, if this is an appropriate place for us to discuss this, great. If not, let me know where you would like to further discuss this matter. Third, my apologies for any oversight in editing codes. I am NOT well versed in computer technology or codes. Please feel free to edit my posts as needed to make any corrections needed in coding. I have no objection to that. However, in terms of content, I would suggest the content not be rephrased without first verifying that "new" statements are true. I have seen some editing taking place making old statements "read more smoothly" without necessarily intending to change the meaning of the content but in the process of the edit the new "meaning" of the revised statements were not actually the same...and in some cases were even incorrect. For example, one statement about "Dr. Swinford breeding many generations of dogs" was restated by Tukuko (I believe) to say "many decades of breeding...," and the later statement simply isn't true. Swinford didn't even complete a full decade of his program before dying, so please be careful about making new statements without first verifying the altered content as true by some referenced content on such matters. Finally, and back to my first statement...noting that you too are versed in Animal Sciences...as an honors student in Animal Sciences, I would expect you are already aware that many programs are small, private, and personal funded experimentation...not large university experiments. This is especially true with working dogs. If every small project had to have large publications, where would we be today? I provided several references about Swinford's program within my post...and while these may not be what you consider worthy or major publications, they are indeed secondary references about his program. That said, I would also ask you to possibly reconsider your editing philosophy to SOME DEGREE. I do understand your perspective on the matter, but in some cases...especially small, but still significant projects...one may need to relax the stance about new findings being shared. Instead, what should be the focus is..."Can the information be verified?" Verifiability is important in science, as such is a measure of objectivity...but verifiability can be determined in a number of ways. It can be evaluated by the quality of the source AND also in sample size (number of sources)...but both quantity and quality should be considered...not just one or the other. Small projects may be limited in just how much recognition their work received, but let's not forget how many things we have today that resulted from someone sharing some fact that someone else considered insignificant at the time...even if accidental at the time or possibly almost going unnoticed. http://www.cracked.com/article_17134_5-accidental-inventions-that-changed-world.html The world of working canines has significantly been reduced due to our industrialized world, so I hope you consider these small project that keep the working canine alive may actually offer much more importance to us than what we first think. As an Animal Science student, I hope you understand that. Thank you, H. Lee Robinson, B.S. & M.S. Animal Sciences, U. of Illinois P.S. If someone can send a note to my page as to how to properly sign my comments, I would appreciate the input on my personal page. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by HLeeRobinson (talk • contribs) 22:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC) Withdrawing an AFD What's the procedure for withdrawing an AfD? I found some instructions on the WP:AFD page but they just horribly confused me - can someone spell it out for me like i'm five? --TKK bark ! 00:13, 30 January 2013 (UTC) There are two quick options, applicable only if nobody else commented in the discussion yet: ask an admin to just close it (I could do it for you if you want!), or perform a speedy non-administator closure as nomination withdrawn, no other arguments for deletion. :) Salvidrim! ✉ 01:12, 30 January 2013 (UTC) There is a comment on it, but it's a keep argument. The person who posted the keep argument had access to sources that I did not and addressed my concern i had when i nominated it, so it's kind of a moot nomination now. --TKK bark ! 01:15, 30 January 2013 (UTC) Oops, pardon the ambiguity of my wording -- you can withdraw if no other argument for deletion ("Delete" !vote) has been added. Just post your intention to withdraw in the AfD and ping me, I'll speedy close it for you. :) Salvidrim! ✉ 01:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC) Hehe, by "pinging" me, I meant letting me know on my talk page! Luckily I decided to check your contribs and saw what you posted at the AfD; I've closed it now. :) Salvidrim! ✉ 02:24, 30 January 2013 (UTC) Sorry, I can be kind of slow sometimes, I've seen users use 'ping' as a term for 'saying someone's username a lot in a conversation in hopes they see it' soo... Anyways thank you! --TKK bark ! 02:26, 30 January 2013 (UTC) No problem, and don't hesitate to let me know if you ever need assistance again. :) Salvidrim! ✉ 02:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

February 2013

List of dog breeds Hi TKK, I was going to try updating the List of dog breeds to reflect the KC classifying the Kangal Dog in the Pastoral group, effective 2013. However, when I opened the edit box and looked at it, I decided to refer the alteration for your expert attention instead (please!!). The reference for the interim standard is here [3]. I am in total awe of your expertise in collating all that - it gave me a headache just looking at it! Now, I'll just have to go and sit down with a cup of coffee while I try to uncross my eyes.......... By the way, you've been doing some really excellent work expanding Whippet and Bedlington Terrier - have you thought about playing with them in your sandbox then moving the expansion across so it could be nominated for a WP:DYK? It requires a five times expansion but must be nominated within five days, if I remember correctly. It would be good to see some of the dog articles getting extra exposure. SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:01, 2 February 2013 (UTC) I will go do it as soon as I finish replying to you here haha. It's not too hard if you judiciously use the ctrl-f shortcut! Thank you! I've never looked at DYK nominations so I don't know the criteria, but I'd be more than willing to do that. Some of the articles for the middle- and low- popularity breeds are surprisingly short despite there being dozens and dozens of references. I also have free access to a bunch of scientific journals/magazine articles/etc because I'm a resident of Maine, and our state pays for subscriptions to them for residents. The next article I pick up, I'll port over and see how much I can cram into it - for some of these breeds, a five time expansion should be easy as pie haha. --TKK bark ! 22:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC) Minor userpage fix Hey, I modified a parameter on your userpage that made some text in the "About Me" NavBox not fit properly on the screen, feel free to revert! :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 03:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC) Ah, I have just realized it actually depends on the viewer's zoom setting. :/ I'd recommend changing the functionality so that it's not dependent on fixed height in pixels (in order to accomodate various resolutions and zoom settings), however I'm not savvy enough into such complex wikicode to be of much help. Apologies! :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 03:20, 5 February 2013 (UTC) I'm not to pro with wikicode myself, I snagged this layout from the Userpage Help Center haha. I'll take a look at it, if I remember correctly it originally didn't have a height parameter but it was too short to fit all my text into, so it was spilling over and kind of laying on top of the other sections and it was a huge mess and bluh bluh I'll play with it when I'm not half asleep haha. Thank you!--TKK bark ! 03:23, 5 February 2013 (UTC) Fishslapping as requested As per request here: Flatpack self-assembly fish-drying rack £375, all major credit cards accepted Krunch! Wham! Biff! Urkkk! You're way beyond getting whacked with a wet trout. Bishonen has walloped you with a rack of dried stockfish. Better take this seriously. She wants you to know she'll send her boys next time. Thank you for your nice helpful edit to assist a newcomer. But you didn't preview, did you? :-) Best wishes, Bishonen | talk 22:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC). Ohhh my god. I'm laughing really hard. Thank you, I'll go fix that right now. I reeeeally need to start using that button, like it's getting ridiculous. --TKK bark ! 22:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC) IP address If you don't want your IP address displayed (some people care, some don't) I'd be happy to rev-del it. I'm deliberately not mentioning where I saw it, as that would defeat the point of this message. Please give me a talkback if you do not respond today--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:40, 10 February 2013 (UTC) Well, it's listed on my profile, so... haha. I honestly don't care; if someone can locate me with it, since it geolocates to a town about fifteen-twenty miles north of me, more power to them. If they can get into my computer with it, again, more power to them. --TKK bark ! 15:47, 10 February 2013 (UTC) OK, then I'll let it go. I think it is hyper-sensitive by some who want it removed, but I have seen such requests, so thought I'd offer.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 12:44, 11 February 2013 (UTC) Warren Remedy I should have included the link to the DYK for Warren Remedy - the link to it is here. Looks set to hit the main page today to coincide with the Westminster show taking place. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:53, 12 February 2013 (UTC) DYK for Warren Remedy The DYK project (nominate) 20:06, 12 February 2013 (UTC) For all your diligent work The Tireless Contributor Barnstar Great job on Giant Schnauzer! Also so many other dog related articles, you're doing a brilliant job that deserves acknowledgement! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC) Olde English Bulldogge link to Leavitt Bulldog Please please please stop taking the Leavitt Bulldog Association link off the OEBA Wilipedia page. I am David Leavitt, the creator of the OEB. Our dogs share the same blood lines. The breeders who I mentor now call their dogs Leavitt Bulldogs. Let me point out that the American Rare Breed Assoc. (ARBA) has OEB's and LB's in the same ring with the same Standard. Will you leave this page alone? David Leavitt ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Levitonski (talk • contribs) 14:25, 14 February 2013 (UTC) Obvious SEO scraping site? I was reading through your comments in regards to dogbreedinfo and easypet being SEO scraping sites? Just wondering how you came to that opinion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.112.94 (talk) 19:16, 16 February 2013 (UTC) dogbreedinfo is user-submitted and it's obvious from the layout of the site and how they present information that they are doing it to appear as high up in the search engine results as possible, so more people click through onto their site, so they get more ad revenue. Easypet is the same idea with a less shady looking layout. --TKK bark ! 23:25, 16 February 2013 (UTC) I think you need to draw a distinction between sites that have adsense on them and sites that utilize content scraping as an illegal way of stealing original content from a legitimate website and posting the stolen content to another site without the knowledge or permission of the content's owner. I don't believe either of the sites you mentioned fit that definition. I have noticed that many moderators here feel as though any reference to a site that contains any level of adsense is somehow evil I think what wiki folks or those that regulate the wiki fail to comprehend is that unlike the wiki, the vast majority of websites are not so blessed as to be able to run for free. Let me elaborate, the wiki runs via donations, thus its server costs, hosting costs, and overhead in general is graciously provided to it through charitable donations. It bills itself as “the free encyclopedia” and is a community-based project to build a free encyclopedia capturing and organizing as much human knowledge as possible. The controversy comes from the fact that the Wikipedia is created and maintained by a legion of unpaid volunteers. Anyone can add or edit the information in the Wikipedia, unlike other encyclopedias which are normally written by contributors with specific, recognized expertise in a given field. Needless to say, this approach leads to some dubious content and tit-and-tat between different groups trying to make their viewpoints and theories known. As with any human endeavor, there are a lot of politics behind the scenes at the Wikipedia. Setting the politics aside and getting back to the issue at hand, the vast majority of websites don't have the Wikipedia luxury of living a cost free existence (so to speak). They are forced to somehow generate revenue in order to offset operating costs. I'm not trying to promote anyone or anything, only that I can understand that there are some people out there that truly are experts in their respective fields and enjoy writing educational/informative material about their particular field of interest. If these individuals choose to use some form of pay for click advertising on their site to either turn a profit or break even, then I can understand that. Adsense is even moving into the arena of educational websites looking to offset costs as well. Take this one "http://www.themanitoban.com/2013/02/a-day-in-the-life-of-an-undergraduate-researcher-cell-splitting/14267/" which is the official student newspaper website for the University of Manitoba (adsense banners at the top). Lastly, you stated "it's obvious from the layout of the site and how they present information that they are doing it to appear as high up in the search engine results as possible". This is common sense is it not? Any site that anyone builds should be built with the intent of actually appearing in the SERP, lest why build it? I could see your point of view if the language of the site was written in such as way as to be deceptive or in such as way as to try and manipulate the SERP (e.g the dog breed Husky, is the best dog breed, of all the breeds out there. This is why breeders love the Alaskan Husky sled dog breed because... etc.) All I'm saying is to be a little more open minded and evaluate a sites content and not whether or not it chooses to use adsense when determining its quality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.254.112.94 (talk) 19:16, 18 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeroyon01 (talk • contribs) There is a difference between a site with banner ads, and a site designed to generate as many views/clicks as possible on those ads. It's the difference between running a site that generates a profit but provides other genuine content, and happens to appear high in the search results, and sites that generate content just to generate those clicks. It's the difference between a magazine that sells ad space, and ad space that sells magazines.--TKK bark ! 16:14, 18 February 2013 (UTC) I can see the point you are trying to make, but again I think you are missing the forest for the trees. Let's say, that those two sites removed all their adsense? Would that change your opinion? The dogbreed one is a pretty piss poor example as the content is pretty lame anyways so I can't really defend that, but quite a few of the articles regarding the various breeds on easy are pretty good. Also I am certain that there are hundreds if not thousands of other sites out there with good content that have ads. The argument your putting forth is that it is not the quality of content that counts as much as it is the motives of the creators when trying to determine whether or not a site should be considered good or bad. I took a look at the Bedlington Terrier article you are working on, to check the source list: ^ a b "The Greying Gene". Dog Coat Color Genetics. Retrieved January 30, 2013. Which basically takes you to this site: http://www.doggenetics.co.uk and from the "about me" page on that site: About Me (And My Pets!) "http://www.doggenetics.co.uk/aboutme.html" "I first created this site when I was a philosophy student at the University of York in the UK. I am now 24 and still living in North Yorkshire, along with my partner, our three rats and an elderly Syrian hamster. Unfortunately due to living arrangements we are unable to own a dog at the moment. "I am obviously very interested in genetics, particularly in dogs and other domestic animals, but I have a general interest in all aspects of biology/zoology. My hobbies include photography (I volunteer for York & District RSPCA as a photographer), moth-trapping, whale-watching (when possible!), jewellery making and writing. In addition, I am a collector of antique and vintage pet photographs (1860s-1940s) and have over 1000 so far..." The above quantifies as a reliable source on canine genetic issues? seems odd that it would have support from a "a self-proclaimed deletionist who firmly believes that if something has not been written about extensively in reliable published secondary sources that [...] it should be deleted." I also notice the AKC (http://www.akc.org/breeds/bedlington_terrier/index.cfm) pops up regularly as a reliable source of information, when its dog breed articles leave a lot to be desired. I combine this with the fact that the AKC does not even create the standard or description, it simply enforces the standards voted upon by the parent clubs. The AKC is also one of the worst commercial offenders possible in terms of being "ad space that sells magazines". The entire site is essentially dedicated to getting you to register your dog with the AKC for a nominal fee of a couple hundred bucks {http://www.akc.org/reg/fee_schedule.cfm} or buy merchandise. On every breed page you can "shop by breed" and catch a link to Cherry Brook Premium Pet Supplies (whom I am sure pays the AKC a premium sum for the ad placement). http://www.cherrybrook.com/index.cfm/a/catalog.breedShow/bid/Bedlington%20Terrier You may also find the following New York Times article on the AKC to be of interest: Safety Concerns Stoke Criticism of Kennel Club, By MARY PILON and SUSANNE CRAIG, Published: February 9, 2013 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/sports/many-animal-lovers-now-see-american-kennel-club-as-an-outlier.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Summary: the A.K.C "often lobbies against basic animal rights bills because they could cut into dog registration fees," which make up roughly 40 percent of the A.K.C.'s $61 million annual revenue." http://images.akc.org/pdf/2011_annual_report.pdf Another version of same article: http://www.pawnation.com/2013/02/13/american-kennel-club-criticized-for-connections-to-bad-breeders Moral of Story: quality sources for reference on the wiki are subjective. It depends on the sites popularity and the editor/admins personal preferences toward that site. When the reality of the situation is that it should always be the quality of the content that counts, not whether or not it has ads or how many, nor about the layout of a particular page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeroyon01 (talk • contribs) 20:22, 18 February 2013 (UTC) Puppy Thank you for giving me him, TKK - he is adorable. I'm going to call him 'Merlin' as he is magic! By the way, I hope he is house trained? And not destructive as I don't want him to eat my Barn star when I hide him away beside it later! SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:26, 20 February 2013 (UTC) Haha, he certainly is housetrained, although he might have an accident every once in a while. And he's not destructive, except maybe to your lap! Haha. --TKK bark ! 12:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

Australian Staghound You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:40, 6 April 2013 (UTC) Ping!!! Hey TKK, I hope everything is okay as I've not seen you about too much lately and I'm missing your sensible opinions! If you get the chance, there is a GA re-assessment going on for Akita at the moment and you might want to comment? SagaciousPhil - Chat 10:51, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

May 2013

page curation Please be a little more careful, and keep in mind the limitation of WP:CSD.Sports Betting Using Odds Comparison had an unmistakably clear context--the problem was that it was a how to do it article, and I prodded it accordingly. Please also pay more attention to copyvio: Asian Studies Center, Michigan State University. was a copyvio of their web site. Pages like that generally are, and it always needs checking. DGG ( talk ) 17:56, 5 May 2013 (UTC) Thank you for the heads up. I'm new to curating so feel free to come back here and correct me if i make more mistakes; i'll be more careful in the future. --TKK bark ! 18:32, 5 May 2013 (UTC) Marti Hearst Hi Tikuko, I added some cites in to establish notability. I think she's now got enough evidence to pass muster for both general notability and academic notability. Do you agree? Cheers, - J-Mo Talk to Me Email Me 21:10, 8 May 2013 (UTC) English Setter Hi TKK, I hope your work situation is beginning to ease up a little? I wonder if you could do me a favour, please? I'm working on the English Setter article - still very much a work in progress! - I noticed you managed to include average litter size in Bedlington Terrier and Whippet but I cannot access the source to see if it has info on English Setters as well; if you still have access to it, would you mind having a look? Thanks! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:05, 12 May 2013 (UTC) I apparently no longer have access to that article for some reason; I'm going to search around a bit and see if I can find you some different sources though. --TKK bark ! 12:53, 12 May 2013 (UTC) Don't use up a lot of your time on it - it would be very unfair of me to expect that! It was really just a 'maybe I could include something like that' thought. Although it would be much appreciated if you did manage to come up with something; I have found a ref (Malcolm Willis, Genetics of the dog) giving a litter average size of 6.25 but that is from a 1970 report, so it's probably just a smidgeon out of date! SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC) Hey, this is Jardory Jst wondering why wou put my sight up for speedy delition-nonsense, I am a first time user, I nee your help fixing it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jardory (talk • contribs) 14:35, 25 May 2013 (UTC) I can't make heads nor tails of it - it looks like a bunch of gibberish to me. In fact, it looks like you copy and pasted some forum rules into an article, which is definitely not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia as that would be a copyright violation. It looks like this might be for a fire department - Wikipedia is also not forrecruiting people to your group. You probably will want to read Wikipedia:Your first article and try to rewrite! --TKK bark ! 14:42, 25 May 2013 (UTC) It was a copy & paste, From my site on fire911.net, It is to tell people about my association on the game fire911.net Where would I make a wiki page for my association? please tell me Hy Tikuko I am still working every day very hard on Madalina Diana Ghenea. It is a school project that I need to submit until the 31th of May. Please until then don't correct it. It is not finished. I never wrote on Wikipedia before and I am still trying to make it better. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zita Szeplaki (talk • contribs) 12:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC) If you don't want other people correcting your article, it shouldn't be on wikipedia.You don't own the article. --TKK bark ! 12:46, 26 May 2013 (UTC) I know. But I am still working on it and figuring out things. I am new at this and I was working all day on it. Please try to understand until Friday. After that I would really like your advice, opinion. If you keep correcting it until I am working on it I get very mixed up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zita Szeplaki (talk • contribs) 12:56, 26 May 2013 (UTC) You might want to tag the article with {{inuse}} in that case.--TKK bark ! 13:14, 26 May 2013 (UTC) Thank you, this really helps me :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zita Szeplaki (talk • contribs) 13:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC) Cordoba Fighting Dog {{help me}} --TKK bark ! 00:16, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Since it's a year old, and hasn't been replied to, it's probably okay to delete it. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 00:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Blocked users That criterion is mainly for the sock puppet brigade, and others actually banned form the site. They are the only ones who can actually create articles in violation of their block. The Aitor Alan Marquina Bañuls article was created well before the block, and is therefore not in violation of anything - unless at some time to come, the author is shown to have been blocked already under another name. Spamusername blockees are unlikely to be candidates for this criterion - this one is blocked for referring to his own material as a source. I've tagged it for this and possible lack of notability, and have no objection to you trying another criterion, or prod, if you see fit. Peridon (talk) 17:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Referring to a post above - don't assume that foreign language Wikipedias have reliable sources. As pointed out, many of then are sparsely articled, and references tend to be few and far between. I've gone looking for refs in foreign parts, and almost always been disappointed. (In a few cases I've ended up adding refs over there...) In addition, rules and procedures differ. Copyvio won't be much different, but the other speedy criteria will be. I once managed to get something speedied on the French Wikipedia, and it took a bit of working out... Peridon (talk) 21:10, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Thank you for letting me know! And thank you for the tip! --TKK bark ! 01:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC) Please slow down Please slow down with your use of the Page Curation tool. Making several edits per minute is clearly not giving sufficient time to evaluate subjects before proposing deletion. I deprodded Backyard Babies for example, a band that has released over 10 albums, including releases on RCA and Sony, and has received a lot of coverage. You also don't appear to be considering alternatives to deletion such as redirects or merges. --Michig (talk) 14:11, 26 May 2013 (UTC) To add to above, on 13:49, 26 May 2013‎ you nominated Alexander Shemansky for deletion using Page Curation (subst:blp-prod) ... when the article clearly stated that he died in 1976 and had 3 references. Also please note that the article had 4 interwikis Беларуская Български Русский Українська... given that non-English wps are less "populated" than en.wp an interwiki article is almost always a sign that reliable sources exist. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Apologies, I'm used to New Page Patrol on wikiHow, where such behavior is (or was, when I was editing there) the norm. I'll be more cautious in the future. --TKK bark ! 00:09, 27 May 2013 (UTC) No problem. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:19, 27 May 2013 (UTC) Also, about this edit, please note that {{more footnotes}} does not actually mean "more footnotes". It means "please re-format the existing list of WP:General references into WP:Inline citations". I wouldn't have added a ref tag at all on this article, because that was a good level of sourcing for a new article and we try to avoid WP:Tag bombing new articles. But if you wanted to, then {{refimprove}} is the general catch-all, and {{third-party sources}} is another to keep in mind for pages with no WP:Independent sources. Good luck, WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC) Alright. Thank you for the clarification! --TKK bark ! 20:04, 29 May 2013 (UTC) Appeal; 'Speedy Deletion' of L4L Page Hey Tikuko, I have made a note on my talk page following your speedy-deletion of my newest (and first ever) wiki page. I would appreciate if you could get in touch with me to discuss this removal, and my options for getting the offending sections corrected and the page live again. Please | Thank you!! Shannonmwiki (talk) 23:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC) Stub tags Please take care not to waste other editors' time by adding {{stub}} to an article which already has a specific stub template, as you did here. Thanks. PamD 13:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC) Sorry! I'll try to keep from doing that in the future! --TKK bark ! 17:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC) Wiki love I wanted to acknowledge the person behind the screen before the genius at hand And say you must be ..or rather are a bright brilliant person The brilliance to use the same user tool as most to manifest your word and in such a powerful way with only 36keys on a pad .. The new "thought" applied is a brilliant one. If most cant understand the levels they are interacting with on the system what about the few that can atleast See and follow thoes guided lines in between .. I'm very interested and curious .. Curious as to the what your team wanted the user experience to Be like Iwikiloveu75.82.186.84 (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2013 (UTC) I'm. Uh. Thank you? --TKK bark ! 17:02, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

June 2013

Speedy deletion declined: Soleil rouge (2013) Hi Tikuko. Just a reminder that WP:A7 does not apply to creative works. Thanks, Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:02, 1 June 2013 (UTC) IMPACT (International Multicultural Platform for Alternative Contemporary Theatre) Good Morning I noticed that you speedily deleted the article International Multicultural Platform for Alternative Contemporary Theatre. May I request that you also delete IMPACT (International Multicultural Platform for Alternative Contemporary Theatre) as it is simply a redirect to the deleted article. (I could not find a way to delete it) I will be rolling back the corresponding entry in List of theatre festivals‎ ed Ecragg (talk) 13:41, 3 June 2013 (UTC) Hi! I'm not an admin, you might want to contact User:DGG who is an admin and deleted the article - I just tagged it. --TKK bark ! 14:26, 3 June 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Kuluban Hello Tikuko. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Kuluban, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not created by a banned user, or the page does not violate the user's ban. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC) A block and a ban are two different things; what worries me, however, is that whatever tool TKK uses to do Page Curation indicated in the edit summary: "speedy deletion-blocked user"; is that the information it is feeding its users? If so, needs to be fixed. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 02:46, 30 May 2013 (UTC) When I pull the page up, it indicates to me 'Blocked user - This page was created by a blocked user.' I've never seen a banned user indication come up. Now that I'm aware of this I'll try to remember that I need to manually check, but I agree that this is something that needs to be fixed. Apologies for the trouble! --TKK bark ! 02:49, 30 May 2013 (UTC) "Banned user" is not a flag or status that will "come up". Blocks are sometimes used to enfore bans, but most blocks are not applied to banned users and thus don't make their creations eligible for speedy deletion. When in doubt, use another criterion or PROD. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 02:52, 30 May 2013 (UTC) Ohmigod you mean a topic ban. I. Think it might be time for me to go to bed! Haha. I am given this as a criterion: Creations by banned or blocked users: Pages created by banned or blocked users in violation of their ban or block, and which have no substantial edits by others. (G5) I've been using it if I notice someone created a page when they were blocked for sock puppetry, irregardless if when they created the article, since they are violating their (previous) blocks simply by having the sock account. Could that be the problem? I just don't want to keep messing up new page patrol, haha. --TKK bark ! 02:56, 30 May 2013 (UTC) L4L Deletion / Re-Written: Input Requested Hello Tikuko, I apologize if I am communicating with you in an inappropriate place. I was hoping you would be willing to review my re-written sandbox article as you are the one who marked it for speedy deletion on my first attempt. Or would you recommend I simply put it live and cross my fingers? I feel like that's not the best idea.. thank you so much for your consideration. Shannonmwiki (talk) 21:00, 31 May 2013 (UTC) Oh gosh, I didn't see this because it was at the top of my talk page, sorry! I'll go take a look if you'd like! Thank you for being so understanding about this process, haha. --TKK bark ! 17:11, 9 June 2013 (UTC) Ride Recordings Hey Tikuko! I created Ride Recordings coz its my band's ( Myon & Shane 54 ) label. I dont see any reason why it should be deleted? I added that coz it should be featured on the Myon & Shane 54 wikipedia anyways...— Preceding unsigned comment added by MarioEgeto (talk • contribs) There are no sources, nothing reliable comes up on google, and you shouldn't be writing about yourself and your projects anyways. It's flat out not significant. --TKK bark ! 17:15, 9 June 2013 (UTC) RS comment Hi. If it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you comment at this discussion regarding a source's reliability? It involves a self-published source's use in a featured-BLP article. Dan56 (talk) 16:39, 9 June 2013 (UTC)  Done --TKK bark ! 11:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Declined PROD of The Flip Squad I have removed the {{prod}} tag from The Flip Squad, which you proposed for deletion. I am leaving this message here to notify you about it. While you asserted you couldn't find anything about the group on Google, I found it quite easy to do so. Try searching with quotation marks around the name. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to it. Instead, feel free to list the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! --BDD (talk) 00:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Woo okay. I thought I did that, I obviously did not. Thank you! --TKK bark ! 11:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Reviewer Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges. A full list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on will be at Special:StablePages. Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. See also: Wikipedia:Reviewing, the guideline on reviewing Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators. INeverCry 02:07, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Thank you! --TKK bark ! 11:52, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Jai Ho Democracy Hello Tikuko. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Jai Ho Democracy, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to movies or TV shows. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Yoops, I thought it did for some reason. Will PROD it, then! --TKK bark ! 11:51, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Speedy Deletion change Just to let you know, I am about to change the code for Goldmorgs to G10 because Goldmorgs is not a promotional article. In fact, it is an article that attacks people with high incomes. Don't assume an article is promotional just because the author has the same name. Citrusbowler (talk) (contribs) (email me) 13:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Sorry, I skimmed it and it looked at first like it was promoting a book or something. I'll exercise more caution in the future! --TKK bark ! 13:45, 10 June 2013 (UTC) I have unreviewed a page you curated Hi, I'm Scope creep. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Ride and Tie, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. scope_creep 18:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC) May I ask why? It seemed acceptable to me. --TKK bark ! 23:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC) Never mind, you are the page creator and apparently this issue has been resolved elsewhere. --TKK bark ! 03:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC) I have unreviewed a page you curated Hi, I'm Ad Orientem. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Antony Dominic, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:27, 11 June 2013 (UTC) For anyone reading my talk page, this has been addressed here and was just an issue of two of us trying to mark the same page patrolled at the same time. --TKK bark ! 03:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC) Cockapoo The pictures of the 8 week, 12, 16 and 26 week old cockapoo show the progression of how cockapoos grow and how their looks change. I believe there is substantial value to these pictures. Some people don't like to buy mixed breed dogs because their growth can be unpredictable. These pictures allow the user to see how the dog changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Themastereditor3000 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia isn't here to sell your dogs, and having six pictures that add absolutely no content to the article does nothing for the page. No other designer breed has this sort of photo sequence - what makes the cockapoo special? If you want to show off pictures of your dog, you can put them on Wikimedia Commons. --TKK bark ! 21:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC) Speedy Deletion of the page Mark Hallett Hi Tikuko, I am getting in touch with you, in regards to your request to speedy delete the page for Mark Hallett. Could you please explain to me what my are options are available to me in order for this page not to be deleted and what is the time limit scale I have before the page get's deleted. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.61.71.29 (talk) 09:29, 12 June 2013 (UTC) I didn't request speedy deletion but instead a slower process called a proposed deletion, and the issue has already been resolved, as the problem was that it is an article about a living person that didn't have sources.--TKK bark ! 12:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC) WP Dogs in the Signpost The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Dogs for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 22:28, 5 June 2013 (UTC)  Done --TKK bark ! 20:03, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Revert abuse Re Brian Cowen and my talk page your abuse of the revert facility has been noted. --86.40.199.185 (talk) 23:46, 15 June 2013 (UTC) Wouldn't call it abuse. When I saw the page as-loaded it appeared that you had removed categories; obviously there was an error somewhere along the line and WP threw me the wrong display. I could throw it right back at you: your failure to assume good faith has been noted. --TKK bark ! 23:56, 15 June 2013 (UTC) You selected that from all my other contributions, which are similar. Then after falsely claiming I had removed content you left a message claiming "it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary", which I had done. Did you even read your own message? Anyway this is a waste of my time and it is a waste of yours. Please do something constructive. --86.40.199.185 (talk) 00:07, 16 June 2013 (UTC) I selected that from all your other contributions because that's the one that showed up in RC. The message was left because you described your edit simply with "categories". Categories what? +Categories? -Categories? If your edit description had been more descriptive I may have known that something between my screen and the site borked up. I'm going to return to what I was doing, because it is constructive, thank you, and I'm going to pretend that this rather nasty interaction never occurred. --TKK bark ! 00:14, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Besides, according to the essay you linked, I'm not abusing anything by making an honest mistake. Quote: "Did you even read your own message?" --TKK bark ! 00:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Pontefract de Lacys' family tree My latest notification tells me that you have reviewed this article. I am a little confused because I don't know why. Is the article being considered for some action? I've looked in a few places but can't find any mention of it. Can you please enlighten me? Jodosma (talk) 11:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC) The bottom notification here is a review notification Reviewing just means that it's a new page that has been looked over to make sure it's not spam, advertising, a completely blank page, an unsourced blp, or otherwise qualified for speedy deletion. Unless you have the Autopatrolled user right, every article you make gets 'reviewed'. For example, since I've created several articles this week, I have several of these notifications: For example, one of them is "Cotinis sphyracera was reviewed by Kolbasz" --TKK bark ! 20:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC) Thanks, it's good to know others have had a look, even if I don't know what they really think about my contribs. Ciao. Jodosma (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC) Stubs Please take care not to waste other editors' time by adding {{stub}} to an article which already has a specific stub template, as you did to Millwork (building material) here. Thanks. PamD 12:50, 19 June 2013 (UTC) Deletion review for Mobile Phones SAR List An editor has asked for a deletion review of Mobile Phones SAR List. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion nomination of Shiraz California Dreamin' If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article. You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles. A tag has been placed on Shiraz California Dreamin' requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a specific animal, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable. If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. STATic message me! 04:14, 22 June 2013 (UTC) I assume you have got the text by e-mail. Have you seen Toffee Stadler? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:17, 22 June 2013 (UTC) Oops, sorry, I had to go run and check when i got this notice to make sure I did - I did, haha! Thanks for that! I did not see that prod, but I'll go take a look. Thanks for the heads up! --TKK bark ! 14:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC) What is a stub? Why did you label Dragony as a stub? PamD 12:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC) Because for the given sources, and what I flipped up with google, it's short compared to the actual amount of information I could turn up. --TKK bark ! 12:57, 23 June 2013 (UTC) DYK for Argillipedoturbation The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 25 June 2013 (UTC) Talkback from 78.26 Hello, Tikuko. You have new messages at 78.26's talk page. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 20:53, 27 June 2013 (UTC) Juan Carlos de Martin Goodevening. You sent me a message about "Juan Carlos De Martin"'s page because there aren't references? Juan Carlos de Martin is an italian professor of the Polytechnic of Turin and one of the most influence person in Italy about Internet, Commons and Society. If you want some references i could link to you some biography or pages that talks about J. C. De Martin? Sorry for my bad english. Thanks for your time. Daviderudy93 p.s.: there is an italian version of this page here: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_De_Martin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daviderudy93 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 24 June 2013 (UTC) I just noticed this now, but you seem to have figured it out on your own. --TKK bark ! 11:28, 29 June 2013 (UTC) DYK for Creep feeding Gatoclass (talk) 02:23, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

July 2013

CLXF / Boston College Hi. I'm a Boston College alum who lived happened to live in CLXF at one point, it's a nice enough place, but of course, it's just a dorm, no need for its own wiki page, probably no need for a mention at all. Outside of current BC students, it's not relevant. The "proposed merge" notice on the Boston College main page is distracting. So for what it's worth, you have my vote as a CLXF graduate to delete the CLXF entry entirely and take that merge note down. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apizzaiolo (talk • contribs) I will propose it for deletion, which seems to be what you're getting at. You may want to read this, and remember that you can do it yourself too! --TKK bark ! 21:31, 2 July 2013 (UTC) Thanks. I'm still pretty new to learning the ins and outs of Wikipedia, so this is a helpful tip. Apizzaiolo (talk) 17:29, 4 July 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Chris D. Constantinopla Hello Tikuko. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Chris D. Constantinopla, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not blatantly vandalism or a hoax. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:05, 6 July 2013 (UTC) Hi Malik, I nominated this as a hoax because, seriously, a 15 year old is not an "expert in aikido,judo,kedo,karate" and is not running an Aikido dojo. --TKK bark ! 23:08, 6 July 2013 (UTC) D'oh! You're right. I didn't notice his age. Thank you, and keep up the good work. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC) Nomination of Jesse Agler for deletion A nomination is taking place as to whether Jesse Agler should be deleted or not. The discussion is held at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesse Agler and everyone is welcome to join in on the discussion. However do not remove the AfD notice on top. WisconsinBoyClevelandRocks228844 (talk) 22:27, 9 July 2013 (UTC) Soxon Productions [4] Hi, I just had this page deleted due to "Advertizing"? We are an independent production company and production companies are listed and we wanted ours to be included. Would never consider this a place to advertize or even know how to go about doing that. Also facebook seems to have created a fb page by taking this name from peoples work history and we noticed those pages often link to wikipedia. Since even the owners of the company can not add content or even a picture to those fb pages, we were hoping that inclusion on wikipedia would at least link to the logo and provide factual info. We included links to "projects of note" as we thought that was what is expected in making an article. NOT in any attempt to advertize - We also considered that people may want to look us up for referencing past and future projects, like many other articles. We exist (and have for 25 years) and just want to be included like the others. Thanks! Justsayknow (talk)JustsayknowJustsayknow (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2013 (UTC) (edit conflict) I appreciate that you understand this and want to discuss instead of just screaming me at me! The problem, besides the way the original article was written, is that your production company seems like it isn't notable. There is nothing I can find online written about your company that is on a reliable, third-party website. This means that your company probably won't be included here, because nothing written about it can be verified. If, however, you still want to write your article, there are people here that can help you out - I would, but I'm not very good at that sort of thing. Go to this page and follow the instructions, and the people there will help you with re-writing your article in a way that makes it suitable for Wikipedia!--TKK bark ! 20:23, 10 July 2013 (UTC) Lysbeth Turner I have replaced your Speedy deletion request on Lysbeth Turner. There is no indication that the article is a hoax, however, nor does the subject appear to be remotely notable. Thanks.--Jeffro77 (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC) Alright. I tagged her as hoax because googling didn't give me much of an indication that she even existed. I didn't even really consider that she might just not be notable enough to have been written about, haha. --TKK bark ! 12:58, 13 July 2013 (UTC) The creator of the article has created various articles (and edited others) on topics related to Gary Botting. A great deal of the material seem to constitute original research, often in the tone of a memoir, and likely by an editor known personally by Botting. I have previously raised this at the editor's User Talk page, but the query was ignored.--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:03, 13 July 2013 (UTC) I have unreviewed a page you curated Hi, I'm PKT. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Silverbridge Harps GFC, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. PKT(alk) 13:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC) I have unreviewed a page you curated Hi, I'm PKT. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Cowman, Milk Your Cow, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. PKT(alk) 13:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC) References and Interlinks Hello Tikuko, Thanks for reviewing April 5 in India. can you please explain me how this(unreferenced, Orphan) tags can be removed? I believe all the information has links to respective wiki pages and which can be a reference for the information too. advise me if any thing needs to add on this--Neechalkaran (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2013 (UTC) The orphan tag is about a lack of pages that link to the page, not links from the page. Read WP:ORPHAN on how to fix that - the usual standard is that your page needs to be linked to from three other pages before the tag can be removed. You're right about the unreferenced tag and it can be removed whenever you'd like; however, now that I study on it, I feel that your page might be better merged into the April 5 article. --TKK bark ! 20:18, 13 July 2013 (UTC) Strange page? I've come across this page while doing new page patrol and I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. It doesn't seem entirely encyclopedic, and it's kind of incoherent; however it's not a copyvio. "Small innovations" as a search term is difficult to weed through. The talk page of the new pages feed doesn't see a lot of traffic, otherwise I'd ask there: What in the world do I do with this page? What is it? --TKK bark ! 23:47, 14 July 2013 (UTC) Hello Tikuko!, I just saw the page, It appears to be relatively new, and it doesn't have much references nor does it seem encyclopedic, if you have already seen that I have given the page a Proposed Deletion tag, when an article does not look right to you and has no reliable sources, feel free to tag or nominate it for deletion. If you are unaware whether the article should be deleted or not and you expect people to oppose the deletion, feel free to nominate the article for deletion. Cheers! Prabash.Akmeemana 00:21, 15 July 2013 (UTC) I'm usually pretty liberal about nominating articles for deletion, but this one just stumped me for some reason. Thank you! --TKK bark ! 00:35, 15 July 2013 (UTC) Don't mention it, like I said any page that does not meet Wikipedia policies or guidelines, should be tagged.! Prabash.Akmeemana 00:39, 15 July 2013 (UTC) Reviewing :Krzysztof Korwin Gosiewski Cheers! Dear friend, I just realized you had reviewed and tagged my article. Thank you very much for your help! --Gustavo Szwedowski de Korwin 03:12, 16 July 2013 (UTC) A barnstar for you! The Original Barnstar For your new page patrolling :). It is much appreciated! Ironholds (talk) 00:47, 17 July 2013 (UTC) Aw, thank you! It's really appreciated! --TKK bark ! 00:59, 17 July 2013 (UTC) Closing discussions Is there a place where I can recruit an uninvolved editor to close a discussion? Talk:Cockapoo#Pictures has been untouched for nearly two weeks and I'd like for it to be closed by someone who isn't me so I can move on with editing the article; normally I'd do it myself when consensus is this clear, but since I started the discussion I don't feel right doing it. --TKK bark ! 21:43, 9 July 2013 (UTC)  Done I've closed it for you. There isn't really a place to ask people to close discussions... Helpme's aren't a terrible way of going about it, I guess. Maybe in the future you could place a {{helpme}} right on the talk page asking for an uninvolved editor to close it. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC) Perhaps the requests for closure were what you were looking for? :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 00:38, 15 July 2013 (UTC) Oooh, that will be nice to have on hand in the future - it was exactly what I wanted. Thanks, Sal! --TKK bark ! 00:41, 20 July 2013 (UTC) DYK nomination of Wood Law Firm Hello! Your submission of Wood Law Firm at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! AbstractIllusions (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2013 (UTC) Redirecting of Alapaha Blue Blood to American Bulldog page Alapaha Blue Blood is a different dog breed than American Bulldog but there is a redirect on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alapaha_Blue_Blood_Bulldog&redirect=no is being redirected to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bulldog This is not correct. I can see the redirect was added by you. What all is required to get the redirect removed, can you please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somuchmojo (talk • contribs) 21:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC) You would need to write a well-sourced article that establishes the breed's notability. You should probably use the Articles for Creation process to do this. --TKK bark ! 23:58, 19 July 2013 (UTC) A kitten for you! Thanks for being patient and suggesting the way to proceed. Everyone likes kittens so ...here is one for you :) Somuchmojo (talk) 21:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC) Thank you! Good luck with your article - if you need any more help, feel free to drop me a line. I can be a little slow to reply sometimes but I'll lend you a hand! --TKK bark ! 19:11, 21 July 2013 (UTC) DYK nomination of Residual feed intake Hello! Your submission of Residual feed intake at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 19:00, 24 July 2013 (UTC)  Done --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 19:31, 24 July 2013 (UTC) Nomination of Classical Music Discoveries for deletion As someone who has edited the article Classical Music Discoveries I wanted to let you know that a discussion is taking place as to whether the article is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Classical Music Discoveries until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. This message is a modified version of {{Template:afd-notice}} that I decided to use to notify people who are editors, but not the article creator. —    Bill W.    (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 20:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Giant Schnauzer Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Giant Schnauzer you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 13:06, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Giant Schnauzer The article Giant Schnauzer you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Giant Schnauzer for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of FunkMonk -- FunkMonk (talk) 15:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Well done, TKK! SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:29, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Thanks, Saggy! And thanks FunkMonk! That's my third dog GA haha, at this rate I'm going to have half the breed articles pushed through by the end of next year haha. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 17:33, 27 July 2013 (UTC) Miniature Shar Pei Hi TKK, you have far more experience with AFC than I do, so I thought I'd ask your opinion on Miniature Shar Pei which has very recently been created. I have a lot of concerns with the article - first, main ref is dogbreedinfo, which we both know is a huge no no; the other refs are either IMHO, iffy at best/to a breeder website/or relevant to Shar Pei rather than 'Minis'. Add to these that the editor who did the AFC review Techatology is now blocked as a sock of Cybolton. All in all, the whole thing seems to be a tad 'not quite right'? Have a quick look if you get the chance. I might drop a note on Kudpung's page tomorrow as they seem to have been involved in the blocks and may be able to throw a bit more light on it. PS Saggy????? I guess I better spend more time on the treadmill SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:38, 28 July 2013 (UTC) Oh gosh I didn't even realize "Saggy" sounded rude, I'm really sorry! I don't really participate at AFC, are you thinking of WP:NPP or WP:RA? Either way, you're right that the article seems to smell a little off, but the breed itself may be a pinch notable, although not in a positive way. There is are mentions here and here and two mentions here and here where it is discussed that the breed creator was apparently charged with animal cruelty because of how she tried to create the breed? All four are very very brief mentions though, I personally would either merge it into a small 'Miniaturization efforts' section of the Shar Pei article if there's anything worth keeping (it doesn't look like there is), or mark it with a PROD as no credible evidence of notability but I've articles kept on less material. I will check ebscoHOST in a second and see if I can find anything there but I doubt I will. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 22:37, 28 July 2013 (UTC) I looked on 'Saggy' as a kind of term of endearment and certainly not as rude.... I'll look a bit more at the Mini Shar Pei today, thanks for your advice. I never really have anything to do with AFC or NPP but I guess I thought they were given a reasonable review by relatively experienced editors. For instance, an article was created recently for An Account of Corsica which was initially 'rejected' but it didn't take much to find some decent refs for it - yet on the other hand Mini Shar Pei appears to have been given a 'wave through'. Now, will I nip to the gym or just go to the pool to work on the Saggy bits today? SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:45, 29 July 2013 (UTC) Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous). Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — RFC bot (talk) 22:15, 28 July 2013 (UTC)  Not done Not a true RFC, but I'm glad this bot is going into action and I will gladly help with the linkspam cleanup! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 22:39, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

Third Industrial Revolution Page Hi Tikuko, I saw you flagged the Third Industrial Revolution as infringing on copyright. What can we do to get the page back up? I can cite the book directly, reword it, or get permission from the author directly - what do you think would be best? Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flourish4520 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC) Hi! I flagged the page because of the spots I copy/pasted, they were directly copied from parts of the book. You'd have to rephrase them and cite them- think 'high school essay' - but if the author is willing to donate his work to the project that would be even better. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 21:06, 6 August 2013 (UTC) comment on Talk:ScienceCampus Halle - Plant-based Bioeconomy Dear Tikuko, your assumption is wrong. I wrote the text itself. The only thing I did was the translation from the german version I also wrote itself(please see the german wikipedia side "WissenschaftsCampus Halle - Pflanzenbasierte Bioökonomie"). For further information you can also vistit our website (wwww.sciencecampus-halle.de). If you claim that I copied from another source, please show me the original sourc and verify your statement befor you delet the article. With the best wishes WCH The text on the page was a direct copy from the website, not a translation. I did not 'assume' anything; you may wish to read WP:Donating copyrighted materials. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 00:00, 15 August 2013 (UTC) Please comment on Talk:Birdo Greetings! You have been randomly selected to receive an invitation to participate in the request for comment on Talk:Birdo. Should you wish to respond to the invitation, your contribution to this discussion will be very much appreciated! If in doubt, please see suggestions for responding. If you do not wish to receive these types of notices, please remove your name from Wikipedia:Feedback request service. — RFC bot (talk) 20:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC) Uh-oh... that again. It's on my Watchlist and I've been meaning to reply to it. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 21:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC) Oh how I love RFCs like this, haha. From the talk page I judge that this has been an issue for a while? "I don't like the current consensus so I'm going to keep pushing the issue until people agree with me"? --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 00:05, 15 August 2013 (UTC) QuickRummy I have removed the {{prod}} tag from QuickRummy, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, please to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion if you feel it should be deleted. Fbryce (talk) 19:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC) Sorry, I don't know why I didn't check the history. I've AfD'd it now. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 20:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC) RespectAbilityUSA rewrite Dear Tikuko, Sorry for the confusion. This the first article I have written. I ran into trouble with the coding, and in the process of trying to fix it, most of the content was deleted. I asked a friend, who is an expert, to take a look and she told me the article sounded like advertising and urged me to completely rewrite it. I am currently rewriting the context and coding with her help to fit the Wikipedia rules and guidelines. The update will be up shortly. Cohendj (talk) 20:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC) You may want to get some help from the friendly folks over at Articles for Creation. They'll be able to help you write your article and make sure it's up to snuff. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 20:16, 15 August 2013 (UTC) Thank you for your help. I will do so. Cohendj (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion declined: Grong Grong (band) Hello Tikuko, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Grong Grong (band), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A quick look shows they rate a few mentions that would indicate some significance, however looks like definite WP:AfD material. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 08:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC) comment on Philip D McNamara page Hi, this is the first page I have posted. It is not an advertisement and it is not autobiographical. It is about a family relation but I believe he qualifies as a notable person and that it would be good to start a page and perhaps add useful information. He worked in refugee camps in Southeast Asia in the 70's and 80's. I think his information could be of help to scholars in the future. I am a librarian at the University of Chicago Library and I thought it would be useful to capture some of his information. I was trying to link to the video because that really has some interesting information about Vietnam and Cambodia and even Beirut from those tumultuous years. Fdmcnama (talk) 14:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC) I'm going to take a look at it and fix some of the issues myself right now - I had surgery reciently so my energy levels have been pretty spotty. I'll put the youtube video in myself, I think it should be okay according to the policy on these things. The link was removed by a bot because you are a new user and YouTube is a site that sometimes gets spammed to pages. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 01:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Okay, I cleaned up the page quite a bit. Is he still alive? If he is, you need to read this. You should also probably read this and this - writing about subjects close to you is generally frowned upon here. In other news, I reformatted the references so they weren't just a URL, and took out a forum link since forums are not reliable sources and the same information was provided by a different reference. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 01:50, 20 August 2013 (UTC) Speedy deletion contested: Harvard University Advanced Leadership Initiative Hello Tikuko, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Harvard University Advanced Leadership Initiative, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: No longer an unambiguous copyright violation. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 22:33, 24 August 2013 (UTC) Deletion of new article / page: Weskus Hi Sir I am a novice / beginner on Wikipedia. I tried to create an article / page, namely Weskus, which you deleted, please can you give me some pointers as to do it correctly, or if you will, help me to understand better that which I have done wrong, and sorry for the inconvenience! PS: Am I allowed to redo it? Kind Regards, Riaan de Witt Weskus Jou Lekker Ding (Pty) Ltd 23:56, 24 August 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weskusjoulekkerding (talk • contribs) You are indeed allowed to try your article again, but I would strongly recommend you use the Article for Creation process. It will greatly reduce the chance that your article is immediately tagged and deleted. To clarify, I didn't delete your article; I don't have the ability to delete pages here. I just put the tag on it, haha. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 00:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC) MY NAME'S SALVIDRIM AND I PLAY WITH TKK'S USERSPACE I wish I could say I'm sorry. Salvidumbass! (talk) 04:52, 25 August 2013 (UTC) I'm in tears. I'm actually in tears. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 04:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Puunrf You make me punnrf! I punnrf every night in the dark thanks to you! :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 05:05, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Reference of Mera Tera Rishta Purana Plz check reference on Mera Tera Rishta Purana article. If reference links is good, then please remove BPL source on Mera Tera Rishta Purana article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanderforyou (talk • contribs) 13:20, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Regarding your tag on David A. Bray You posted too many links -- do you mean internal links or external links? Can you point to where you might reduce the number? (If external, removing too many might result in someone else saying more are needed)? Thanks, Harvey the rabbit (talk) 15:29, 25 August 2013 (UTC) It's a reference to the number of internal links. I can't think of a single case where removing external links from an article that weren't used as references resulted in someone saying that more were needed, haha. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:32, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Gotcha and understood. I probably went overboard on the Wiki-fication eh? Per your tag I went through as you suggested and reduced the number of internal links by a significant amount, also added categories too. Appreciate the background on the reference Tikuko! Harvey the rabbit (talk) 16:14, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Some stroopwafels for you! Thanks Tikuko for your help in balancing too much with too little wiki-fication! Enjoy a virtual snack for your assistance. Harvey the rabbit (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2013 (UTC) Re : Your contributed article, Tamil text to speech hi , Thankyou for your encouragement.I am looking forward to contribute more to Wikipedia. The reason I felt the creation of the article necessary because the page on Speech synthesis primarily focuses on the English language. There are a lot of developments relating to text to speech in many other languages like Chinese and various other Indian languages like Tamil and Kannada which I wanted to bring to notice. There is already an article related to Chinese speech synthesis. Similarly , there have been some interesting breakthroughs in speech synthesis of Indian languages.I am posting a few links to the work happening in these areas below. http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~mbansal/papers/isca_ssw6.pdf http://sourceforge.net/p/dhvani/wiki/Home/ http://mile.ee.iisc.ernet.in/mile/SpeechSynthesis.html I strongly feel we should bring all these developments into notice.My apologies for creating the articles very vaguely. I am really looking forward to know your thoughts. Regards Harshithapv (talk) 12:14, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

Leximancer Hello Tikuko, Thanks for pointing out that Leximancer page seems promotional at this time. However, I created this page as i was unable to find info on Leximaner and i needed to decide if i want to use it. there must be many like me who need neutral n comprehensive info about this tool. i will update the page as i gain more experience using the tool. till then the page may look a bit tilted. So, please dont delete it. thanks zasif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.22.144 (talk) 22:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC) Huawei Premia Hello Tikuko, This is just a courtesy visit to inform you that I took the liberty to make a slight expansion to your article, added section and references. I hope you'd like my effort. I'd appreciate your say on this. Regards, (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 12:02, 3 September 2013 (UTC)) If you mean Huawei Premia, I'm not the article creator, I just patrolled it. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:55, 3 September 2013 (UTC) Miniature Schnauzer I have taken on the review of Miniature Schnauzer which you nominated at GA. I have started the review and made some comments on the article and look forward to your responses. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:17, 5 September 2013 (UTC) Your GA nomination of Miniature Schnauzer Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Miniature Schnauzer you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cwmhiraeth -- Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:11, 5 September 2013 (UTC) BarnyardWill Hello, I recently did an edit for the page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=National_Hardwood_Lumber_Association&oldid=570291651 which you deleted citing copyright issues. I am simply curious what the issue was so that I can resolve it. Cheers! BarnyardWill (talk) 21:03, 6 September 2013 (UTC) Hello! The information you added to the page was copy-pasted from the NHLA's website, which means it is copywritten to them and cannot be used here. You might want to read this for more info. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 00:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC) It would be uncanny if there is even a sentence of my text that was word for word copied from their website because I wrote all of it myself. The information is similar to what is on the site but it is not copied. Given the small amount of information about this organization it is unsurprising that my version sounds similar. I ordered my topics in the same order as the website because it was logical. Please check more closely for plagiarized content. I would appreciate it if my addition were re-posted. Thanks, BarnyardWill (talk) 18:06, 11 September 2013 (UTC) I looked at [[5]] and couldn't find any reasonably close match between your text additions and the website; I resinstated your expansion to the article. If it was indeed a copyright violation, I'm sure Tikuko will provide a link to the page I must've missed that holds the text in question. :) ·Salvidrim!· ✉ 00:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC) Entirely incompetence on my part; a couple of the phrases I googled/ctrl f'd showed a match and the ordering of the sections led me to believe it was a copyvio but I apparently lack in the reading comprehension department (by which i mean actually reading what I'm looking at) Thanks for fixing that, Salv, and my apologies to you Bill.--TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 06:10, 12 September 2013 (UTC) Your GA nomination of History of sheep Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article History of sheep you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:32, 15 September 2013 (UTC) Review of Jim Calarco September 20 2013 Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. These qualifications should be demonstrable to other people. The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials, either in traditional printed format or online. However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. http://media.cottagecountrynow.ca/special/almaguin/data/pdfs/95/AN12.pdf - Printed newpaper that covers a large part of central Ontario. This archived work is accessable as a PDF covers much of what is in my article. http://www.nugget.ca/2009/01/12/hall-president-humbled-by-honour North Bay Nugget printed newpaper since 1908 http://www.filmnorth.net/news_story.php?p=76 Film North, Huntsville international Film festival, is Muskoka' first and only international film festival. It was founded in 2010. I would say a reliable source from people who are directly in the industry. Your review is unclear as my sources are completely valid for our area, what reliable source are you looking for? If you have not clued in I also have many more sources to cover ONLY two paragraphs. Do you editors even look at the work, what are you reading? ShadowGlider (talk) 02:17, 21 September 2013 (UTC)ShadowGlider First things first, can you please not use Template:hilite when conversing with me? It makes my eyes go funny and makes it very difficult to read whatever it is you've highlighted, because the yellow is so neon on my monitor. I assumed you were using the mess of external links in the first paragraphs as references, too, in which case you need to link directly to the pages that state things like what rewards Calarco has received, etc. The external links are, in my mind anyways, linkspam and should probably be removed - you already have references, so you don't also need to link to every individual page. Interviews, IMDB, Facebook, and the like are not reliable sources, either. The three you provided here are fine but from what I can read the majority of your sources are one of those three, or are pages that appear to be directly related to Calarco. Yes, I have 'clued in' - if you have more to write than two paragraphs, then write it first and then submit the article to AfC. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 02:27, 21 September 2013 (UTC) ShadowGlider (talk) 02:40, 21 September 2013 (UTC)ShadowGlider. A previous editor-reviewer pointed out that my references, what he called footnotes MUST include the subjects name and support the statements. EVERY "footnote" has the subjects name and supports his work or awards, nomination or win. If I already have the link as a "footnote" I made it an external link. Using your help file, I discovered all my external links, that is links to pages or information not within wikilinks to help the reader know or understand who, what group or achievement I am discussing. Again, as I have already been told, every reference, that an editor or reviewer called a footnote HAS the subject names and supports the items of discussion. Instead of adding repeated footnote, I chose to make repeating links such as awards external links as described by your wikilinks help page. Please tell me what I need to do because I thought I understood and now I do as I am told and you do not seem to look at articles the same as previous reviewers. Shadowglider, to sign your posts, you just need to type four tildes at the end of your post, you don't also need to sign your name. Just tips. I think I'm seeing the same problems as previous reviewers and I'm just using different words. If you'd like, I can edit your draft myself and fix some of the issues, and then you might understand? I don't know another way to describe what I meant and, judging from your reply, you may have misunderstood me. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 02:47, 21 September 2013 (UTC) A reviewer pointed out my references were footnotes. 'ref' I then read the wikilinks help page as recommended. As I understand it, references are foot note, must include the subject by name and support the important details of the wikipedia article, such as film contributions and awards. Wikilinks, like the college and university should be used, but when you are referring to a group or website that is not covered by wikilinks, like near north school board or short film that went through the film festival circuit that there is no wikilink for, I should use an external link. So now my references or footnotes only have the subject name and supports the infomration in my wikipedia article. I used wikilinks suggestion for external links, to videos or infomration not available to wikilinks. So now you are criticising that the external links need to be a reference to support my subject and notoriety. Instead of repeating references, like I did in the filmography section, I used external links to the titles and only added related articles to the bulleted list. If like the college and university is mentioned but there is no wikilink, am I suppose to add an external link like the wikilink help page described? For example, the subjects wife is also an actor but does not have a wikipedia page or IMDB page. Through IMDB I was able to obtain all work related to her career, so when in my article you read the subject married a fellow thespian, clicking on her name brings you to an external link the highlights her television and movie career. Not a reference to support the notoriety of my subject, just a link explaining how she is a fellow thespain. I need to know what you are looking for in formatting. How should I refer to external information, such as work not avaiable through wikilinks or the subjects wife in relation to his career if I am not suppose to use the external link as I understand it from the wikilinks help page. With formatting, how do I seperate supportive artices like awards announcements from information that may be helpful to the reader such an an interview that is related to the article. ShadowGlider (talk) 03:57, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Your GA nomination of History of sheep The article History of sheep you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:History of sheep for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:32, 21 September 2013 (UTC) Andrew Perlman article Hi Tikuko, I think I'm probably doing this talk page thing wrong, but that's part of why I'm contacting you. I'm new to Wikipedia, and my article on Andrew Perlman got a C but I don't know why. Could you let me know what's lacking so I can work on improving? Thanks. Mak910 (talk) 03:45, 26 September 2013 (UTC)mak910 A C is actually really good by Wikipedia standards - most articles hit stub or start-class, both of which come before C. You might find the advice at WP:DEV and WP:GA helpful! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 05:15, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

October 2013

Hairline Lowering I'm not sure what more you want from the hairline lowering paper. It is an unusual and rare procedure. If you search pubmed for "hairline lowering" you will find very few papers that address the subject specifically. In fact, the one paper referenced five times in the article is the only semi-comprehensive paper about the surgical procedure. As you may know, cutting edge and unusual surgical procedures often are "how I do it" types without endless studies and references. If you think you can find better and more numerous references than the ones already provided, please show me. Considering the quality of other articles here on wikipedia (and the sheer number of unreferenced articles), you seem to be holding this one to a extreme standard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.136.210 (talk) 7:06 pm, 21 September 2013, Saturday (12 days ago) (UTC−4) The quality of other articles is irrelevant; the issue is the article at hand and how it compares to the standards given at Articles for Creation. One of the requirements is proper sourcing. Since you've added sources, the article is now of much better quality; I'm actually about to go review it a second time. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Hello Hi, thanks for the note on my talk page suggesting my article on Vic Gordon be deleted. However, this is not promotional. He was a very well-known and loved character actor on Australian television in the sixties and seventies and was a household name. he deserves at least this biographical tag. cheers anyways, {sentinel68} sorry i am a bit rusty with the formatting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentinel68 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC) It's alright to be format-rusty. You can sign messages with ~~~~ and our friend SineBot here will stop following you around :) The article appeared to me to be either a memorial or advertising; I'm sorry for the confusion! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:28, 3 October 2013 (UTC) cheers for this Sentinel68 (talk) 13:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC) Gigantt Hi! You suggested the Gigantt article should be improved. Please explain what bothers you the most. The first guy told me what he wanted me to change and I did, and he was Ok with it then. The second guy never responded. Regards Martin Martin.vrecko (talk) 16:04, 1 October 2013 (UTC) The references don't really establish any notability. Startups are launched all the time, and it's pretty routine for there to be press releases announcing them - routine coverage doesn't establish notability. I'd like to see, for example, reviews of the program by people well-known in the industry (not 'chocolatecake345' on Cnet), or a feature on a software site or in a work like PC World. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 20:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC) Elicitus Hello! Thank you for creating the article, Elicitus. Any suggestions on improving the article from Stub class? RM (talk) 05:52, 3 October 2013 (UTC) You could include a history of the software, an examination of different versions (if any), any disadvantages or controversy around the software, a section on its critical reception... there are lots of things you could do! You can get ideas by looking at articles listed under 'Software' here or at articles listed here; you might also find inspiration in the Featured video game articles, especially those that are PC-based. Good luck! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Saket Modi Hi Tikuko. I noticed that you declined Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Saket Modi. General references are not a reason to decline AfC submissions unless the article is not sufficiently verifiable. In general, inline references are not required at all for most sub-GAs. You might want to review the reviewing instructions. DPRoberts534 (talk) 04:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC) I'm aware, however it looked like the author was attempting to use ref tags/inline citations and I'd rather not let an article that's misusing them through when it's clear the author wants to use them. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 05:06, 6 October 2013 (UTC) Bulldozer archaeology You moved this to article space. It seems to have been created purely to discuss some argument in Israeli archaeology, and is definitely not a new term, it's been around many decades. I tried to clean it up and was almost immediately reverted by what seems to be a sock of the original editor (and an IP, probably the new editor). Help would be appreciated. Dougweller (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC) I'll wait and see if they respond to you on their talk page. if they won't edit just from one account, then I'll take it to SPI. Sometimes new editors don't realize that they can only have one account. I'll keep an eye on the article though; unexplained reverts are one of my biggest pet peeves. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:41, 6 October 2013 (UTC) I did answer Dougweller saying that: I work with John. The term may be 60 years old. If it is, we can get rid of the reference to Simcha Jacobovici coining it but recently there’s been a specific controversy relating to its use in Israel. I don’t see why you should censor the reference to Professor Goren and Dr. Deutsch, nor do I see why there shouldn’t be any links to the various articles – pro and con – relating to this issue. Are you trying to make the entry more accurate? Or are you trying to censor the debate? Also, I note your aggressive tone and don’t understand it. But I haven't heard back from him. In the meantime, I was trying to edit the entry back to its original state until I can fully understand why it keeps changing. (Naustin1980 (talk) 19:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)) BTW, I've re-entered taking Dougweller's "improvements" into consideration. I changed the line about Simcha Jacobovici coining the term and I've made the recent controversy specific to Israel. I don't understand why he censors the rest and why he censored any references to Simcha Jacobovici's articles and blogs. Seems like censorships, not improvements. I thought you were the people's encyclopedia. (Naustin1980 (talk) 21:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)) Hi Naustin, I understand why you feel this way, but can we maybe keep this conversation in one spot? It'll get confusing for me otherwise; I've a good mind for editing but when a conversation is spread across several places i get confused. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 02:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, Tikuko. You have new messages at Dougweller's talk page. Message added 20:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. See my comments on my talk page about Bulldozer archaeology. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 20:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC) Thanks. Not easy to sort out this problem. Unfortunately the new editor has no idea how to cite, and obviously no knowledge of archaeology or they wouldn't be suggesting this term has been 'reintroduced'. Dougweller (talk) 22:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC) Recent Declined Redirect Request You recently declined a redirect request I made. This was all I could find to support my request from supporting citations external to Wikipedia: [6] I realize it might still be a stretch, but I thought it was worth a shot. The idea only occurred to me because of where the term "daddy issues" redirects to. I figured this was the other side of the coin. 71.236.145.234 (talk) 22:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC) I was not aware of the daddy issues redirect; in that case, your proposal makes sense - I'll go ahead and create it anyways. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 02:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC) Learning Entropy I have nominated this article for deletion, which you recently promoted from WP:AfC. It appears to lack notability, showing no evidence for having been taken up as a mainstream or widely-cited notion, instead appearing just to be one person's pet idea. This was done after raising the topic for a quick sanity check at WT:MATH. Indeed what the article text is so vague and woolly, it seems impossible to operationally implement the idea from what's written there, or get any clear idea of what's being proposed. There also seems to be no connection at all to anything conventionally understood as entropy -- the creator of the idea just seems to be piggy-backing on the importance and mystique of the term, yet another red flag. This therefore seems to me to fail our criteria for what a topic requires to be included here. Jheald (talk) 08:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC) I wasn't aware that the other papers didn't establish notability; in that case I agree with the deletion. Thanks for the update. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 22:43, 7 October 2013 (UTC) Don't feel too bad about it; I know that the editors taking care of AfC (whose work I truly appreciate) are struggling with the large volume of submissions and it is to be expected that sometimes mistakes get made. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 07:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC) CogBooks Hi. Thanks for the feedback on the article. It is the first one that I have submitted. It was not meant as an advertising piece. I have tried to rewrite the article to make it completely factual. Before I wrote the article, I looked at the other technologies quoted on the wikipedia adaptive learning page, and I thought I had made this one pretty similar to many of those - perhaps you could take a look at them. Adaptive learning is getting a lot of coverage at the moment in education and it seemed like CogBooks was missing from the technologies mentioned on wikipedia. Also, I could not understand your concern about the citations. Many of them are from notable experts or publications and the Gates Foundation report is probably the most comprehensive review of adaptive technology that has been published to date. CogBooks were highlighted there. In any case, I have added citations from two major UK institutions: NESTA and UFI. I will resubmit, but would also like to hear if you would suggest anything else to improve the article. I may want to add more companies and technologies in the future.Carl93clark (talk) 15:37, 7 October 2013 (UTC) The only other complaint I would have is the focus of the article; is it about the company or the product? --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 22:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC) I guess i was conflating the two. The product in my mind is what makes the company notable, so I put in some description of that in the revision. I tried to keep the article short, so that it did not start to advertise, but did give people a reference point for the company. Please let me know your recommendation. Carl93clark (talk) 11:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC) Jim Cummins You made a comment on my article submission for Jim Cummins (photojournalist) that you would push to main space if I trimmed down list of artists and album covers. I have done this, cleaned up mistakes in citations, and added two new citations to help with others comments needing more citations. I added citations 6 and 7. Could you review and let me know what you think. Thanks Mike Mjjjhjemjsrj (talk) 18:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)Mjjjhjemjsrj I would like to see some sources besides the NYT article, as the other commentor noted; photo credits aren't really an indicator of notability. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 22:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC) I should have said - I added citations 5 and 6. Citation 5 is a good one. http://www.newsday.com/business/never-before-seen-photos-of-jimi-hendrix-final-performances-and-in-studio-recording-one-of-his-biggest-hits-discovered-after-forty-three-years-in-basement-box-1.6166645 Mjjjhjemjsrj (talk) 20:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC)Mjjjhjemjsrj Just added another citation #7 - http://www.amazon.com/Jimi-Hendrix-Voodoo-Child-Aquarian/dp/0385073577. Book cover photo. Mjjjhjemjsrj (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)Mjjjhjemjsrj You'll have to wait for someone else to take a peek at the article; I still don't think there's significant coverage but since some articles have been made on less I'll wait to see what another editor thinks. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 05:50, 11 October 2013 (UTC) See this also See [7] and [8]. Note that Jacobovici is being at best disingenuous about his inventing the term, skirting around it by saying I didn't offer any proof he didn't. Dougweller (talk) 06:22, 9 October 2013 (UTC) Sigh. I love it when people who don't know how 'pedia functions get upset about people editing 'their' articles, etc. I'm tempted to go dig up a source that dates back to before his use of the term, but WP:NOSEs and all that. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 06:28, 9 October 2013 (UTC) Acta IMEKO Hi Tikuko, first of all thanks for your review. Unfortunately I haven't understood why the journal page has been rejected, could you help me again? with regards Marco — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marco.tarabini (talk • contribs) 05:05, 10 October 2013 (UTC) It's been rejected because one of the sources is a google scholar search; the other two appear to be articles from the journal itself. You need third party sources. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 10:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC) GEZE I was wondering the specific reason why the GEZE page I submitted was not accepted. There are some very similar company pages in the system such as Dorma. Please give me some specific reasons so that I can improve myself. Landery (talk) 11:09, 11 October 2013 (UTC) I'm not sure why you're asking me, as I've never edited that article? It was rejected because all the sources are the GEZE website, you need to add some sources that are not directly affiliated with the company. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:34, 11 October 2013 (UTC) Help? Tikuko - my recent submission keeps getting kicked back. You mentioned that I have violated the golden rule, in that I have a vested interest/affiliation with the publication. That is not the case - as I am neither an employee, nor have I ever received compensation from their group. My interests are to highlight the business model moving from a paper based publication to that which is digital - it's something noteworthy with respect to an eco-minded economy. Likewise, I am not sure why Shambala Sun - which is the counterpart to Elephant Journal is listed in Wikipedia, but you're saying that this publication is not noteworthy? Again, my interests are to highlight the achievements of an organization that suffered great loss to transition to a green business, and subsequently (though some years later) became quite viable again. Help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tara.lemieux (talk • contribs) 14:21, 11 October 2013 (UTC) Gladly! And I appreciate you asking for help rather than just getting mad at me or something, but absolutely I will help you! Let's do things one step at a time. Right now, the main issue is that the article's sources are all affiliated with the journal or with people who have been in the journal. Linking to the websites or profiles of people who have been written about in the journal isn't really sourcing, it's... linking. You should find some sources that talk about the journal, but are not published by the journal itself. For example, a good source for the CNN article would be this, since it's not written by someone affiliated with the news channel. For example, for Elephant Journal, this is starting to get there but since it's an interview it's not completely unaffiliated. I'm having issues finding sources for this, and there's a possibility that it just simply isn't notable enough yet to be included. The Shambala Sun article is sourced to primary sources and isn't that great of an article to begin with. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:00, 11 October 2013 (UTC) Sangit Om Hi Tikuko, thank you very much for your review of my submission Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Sangit_Om_(2). This is my first submission and I have to admit, that I feel a bit helpless now, after having tweaked the article twice without success. I have read the "guidelines on the notability of music-related topics" and have tried to follow the rules in that article. I think that this artist fulfills the criteria, especially this one: "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are notable)." As resources I have used mainly online resources that are suggested in the article (AllMusic and FreeDB). Additionaly I have also included the online-list of notable persons born in his hometown and another list of notable persons born on his specific birth date. I also have seen, that similar German artists (with a similar history of releases, a similar stylistic/genre background and similar recources) have been listed in Wikipedia, like "Karunesh", "Deuter", "Vollenweider". I would highly appreciate your assistence, hoping that you have some suggestions what else I can do to improve the article in order to match the creteria for being included.Lyraris (talk) 07:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC) Well, to begin with, the fact that he's listed in a CD database doesn't establish notability. Thousands of CDs are released every week and most of them are produced by people who would not be suitable for inclusion here. What you need is things like reviews of his music, critical discussion of his work, etc. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 07:16, 14 October 2013 (UTC) Sangit Om Hi Tikuko, thank you for your reply. I am still a bit puzzled though. According to the guidelines that I have followed, I thought that having three releases on a major label (EMI/Electrola) and more than ten releases on two well established independent labels is already enough prove for the required notability of a musical artist. I can also add reviews and other publications, no problem. But I am not sure how to do that. Do I just need to add them to the reference list? I did not see any such references at the pages of the other artists, that I have mentioned above. BTW, I can also add more content if needed. Right now I have kept it simple, because I did not want to make it too complicated. I understand that Wikipedia is not for any musician that has just released a few CD's. But in this case I think we talk about an artist who plays a profound role in the field of New Age music. I hope you can help me there, and I just will try my best. Thanks for your patience. Lyraris (talk) 09:42, 14 October 2013 (UTC) Ecelliitk Hi Tikuko! This is regarding rejection of my article by you. You had rejected the article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Entrepreneurship_Cell,_IIT_Kanpur ,on the basis of existence of an article of the same subject, i.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrepreneurship_Cell,_IIT_Kharagpur I would like to clarify that although both the articles are similar, yet they are very unrelated. Both are different organizations operated autonomously from different places by different people, serving different set of people/ community. Just like the central banks of USA (the FED) and India (RBI) are similar on the basis of their primary work, yet they are two very different entities operated by different people, working for different people. Hence if I am making a wiki page of RBI, I should make a different one, I cannot edit the page of the FED. Same is the case here. Hence, I would request you to please review it again. The articles and organizations are very similar. Have you considered moving the article to Entrepreneurship Cell (IIT) and simply writing one article about them? They're too similar to be separate IMO. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 01:05, 15 October 2013 (UTC) Michigan Office of Retirement Services Hi, you asked about discussion of this organization beyond literature produced by the state of Michigan. There is significant discussion from the following sources referenced in the article: 1. Boston College (University in Massachusetts) 2. National Institute on Retirement Security (a US national organization) 3. The Pew Center on the States (a US national organization) 4. Blue Cross Blue Shield (a US national health insurance provider) Do you have any suggestions on how to better establish notability? Sheppard058 (talk) 16:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC) The BCBS report is not a third-party source, as they're discussing how people can keep their health insurance into retirement. Because of the nature of the thing, I don't dare approve it with just the three sources and the Michigan sources; I would recommend you add a comment to the top of the page linking to this discussion and resubmit. Someone a little more experienced at AfC than me will take a look at it. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:42, 16 October 2013 (UTC) Question about Articles for creation/Target Project Dear Tikuko, It seems I am doing something rather odd when I try to submit my article. I do see the article on the Project page Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Target Project ad then I thought that to submit it for review I just need to click on save. Which I do. Hovewer, this is the second time I get the message that the article is declined because Wikipedia doesn't accept blank submissions. Clearly, I am missing something fundamental ( and most likely I'll feel stupid when I find out what it is:))) Could you help me or refer me to the appropriate place where I should ask for help? Thanks a lot, Sautekai (talk) 17:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC) It's in the wrong namespace. See the Wikipedia: at the beginning? It should be on the Wikipeda talk: page. I think it might require a WP:Histmerge to fix because you created the article on the wrong page, which means we need an admin to resolve this. Pinging User:Salvidrim!--TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 23:11, 16 October 2013 (UTC) I've moved the content to the proper title, restored relevant history and the decline template, and clicked the "resubmit" button. Hope it helps! ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 01:20, 17 October 2013 (UTC) Thank you, Salv! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 01:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC) Dear Tikuko and Salvidrim!, thanks a lot for your help. I guess I can just sit and wait for the reviewers' response now. In the meantime, where can I find the article if I want to make some more edits? I also promise to fill the gaps I have in my knowledge of Wikipedia basics and hopefully add something valuable to our free encyclopedia. Thanks again! Sautekai (talk) 13:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC) It's not a big deal, I've made similar, equally dumb mistakes - we all have! You can get at your article here. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 14:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC) comment on declining the article LORDS OF METAL Dear Tikuko, Thank you so much for reflecting on my fan-based submision for heavy metal website Lords of Metal. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lords_of_Metal). I somwehow couldn't make clear why the subject isn't notable enough. Well, Lords of Metal is very strong in google search results, it has an archive of over 25,000 articles, lots of bands refer to articles on Lords of Metal on Wikipedia. the only ones interested in Lords of Metal enough to write about them, would proably be competitors (like Aardschok (tijdschrift)), who are NOT inclined to help. The articles I delivered which mention Lords of Metal are in Dutch, hence proably the dificulty in weighing the importance of those guys for the international heavy metal scene. When searching for "Lords of Metal" on Wikipedia, there between 200 and 500 results. What else do you want me to do to convince you that it is objectively an important article to be featured on Wikipedia? Bands that refer to Lords of Metal on Wikipedia: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Inches_of_Blood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanasis_Lightbridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almah_(band) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forsaken_(album) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_metal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom_(band) A couple of sites that refer to Lords of Metal in their LINKS or MEDIA section: www.izegrim.nl (click on LINKS) http://crimsonfalls.com/reviews/ http://www.satanshost.com/2013/musicGAS.html#GASReviews http://mpireofevil.tripod.com/releases/hell_to_the_holy.htm And reference to reviews on sites to Lords of Metal articles: http://oktoberguitars.blogspot.nl/2012/01/oktober-guitars-featured-interview-on.html http://www.s-k-g.nl/media.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.35.241.195 (talk) 6:05 am, Today (UTC−4) Let's do this systemically. The first source you gave in the article (well, linked to) is a blog. Blogs are rarely reliable sources and more often than not even blogs that I would consider reliable get pulled as spam. I would not consider this blog reliable. The second source you linked to in the article is a forum. Forums are never reliable sources. Again, the third link is a blog. The ad for the metal quiz, judging from the website's appearance and the comments section, is a blog. This exact same article is reprinted in the last source you used in the article. This looks so unreliable I wouldn't set my Moxie down near it. It looks to be one of those massive yelp copycats. Yelp isn't a reliable source and this isn't either. Reviews written by the general public are pretty much garunteed to not be reliable. After all what's to stop me from going on there and saying Lords of Metal is an unreliable pile of crap? It doesn't matter how many Wikipedia pages reference the site. A lot of agricultural articles mention machinery companies that aren't notable enough to have their own article. A lot of dog articles discuss dog shows that don't have articles. Bands referencing the site are also not appropriate references. What you want are sources like the BrooklynVegan article; discussion of the blog in whatever the dutch equivalent of the New York Times is. If none of this exists, it's just flat out not notable and the article won't be created until the blog has established that kind of notability. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC) Hmmm, my best intentions seem to evaporate here :-) I am really eager to get this through, but if I go on any further, they would have to pay me, hahaha. The 013 venue site is not a blog, by the way. That was a report, but written in Dutch. To see it is in fact a venue, click here: http://www.013.nl/english. Another site of a prominent venue (like Trocadero in Philadelphia) that refers to an article on Lords of Metal is Melkweg in Amsterdam: http://www.melkweg.nl/artikelpagina.jsp?artikelid=142820&disciplineid=muziek Both 013 and Melkweg have their own wiki pages, on which is shown they are NOT blogs > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/013 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melkweg#Other_venues_in_Amsterdam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.35.241.195 (talk) 09:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC) Would this statistics be a proper reference: http://lordsofmetal.nl.outerstats.com/ (pardon me for the Dutch)? or this one in English & Dutch: http://lordsofmetal.nl.allwebsitestats.com/ Please, just let me know what exactly is fitted, i am starting to feel like it is impossible, as this is outside of the mainstream, official news sites don't approach them. Those who are interested, usually are either comptetitors or considered blogs by you (Brooklyn Vegan, quite interesting by the way): http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/lordsofmetal.nl Alexa is usable, but on its own doesn't establish notability. The two venue writeups may establish notability and you might have enough material between the three for a well-sourced stub. Dutch language sources are fine, but as I can't speak dutch I can't say if outerstats is ok; it looks like alexa provides the same information though.--TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 17:31, 19 October 2013 (UTC) Thanks buddy, but the text i initially wanted to publish is now gone. Shall I try a new attempt or anything? Wikipedia:Requested articles/Images Thank you for adding those windmills and other items. I notice that the "Similar" column contains redlinked windmills. That column is meant to provide a model, so perhaps it's a an error. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:23, 23 October 2013 (UTC) I'll take a look. It's definitely an error on my part. Thanks for letting me know! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 23:25, 23 October 2013 (UTC) No worries. And thank you for you good work over there. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC) Derp! I deleted you. Your main userpage may or may not have been briefly deleted by someone who couldn't admin his way out of a wet paper bag. Salvidumbass! (talk) 04:54, 24 October 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grand Lodge of Cyprus A few days ago I posted two identical versions of this new proposed page: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grand Lodge of Cyprus. In my ignorance, the submissions went one to the talk page and one to the project page. You rejected the version of the Talk page, in favor of the other, but then the other was moved - I don't know where. I fear the end result is that nothing is being done for review of the site. Would you check this, please, and continue the review process with one of these identical versions of the site? Thank you. Jax MN (talk) 13:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC) After the submission at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Grand Lodge of Cyprus was declined due to being a duplicate, the version originally at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Grand Lodge of Cyprus was moved over it; this is thus now the only existing version and could simply be resubmitted. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:31, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

November 2013

DYK for Eastern Maine Medical Center Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:39, 10 November 2013 (UTC) William Rankin (baseball writer) I actually had two pages: one for Will Rankin and one for his brother Andrew "June." Both were NY sports writers. -PamJourneybound (talk) 18:58, 10 November 2013 (UTC) I'll fix it for you so you don't have this issue again! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 08:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC) Birdo User:Diego Moya has argued that there is no consensus on the use of the manual scan image because you and the other user who felt it should be removed provided no reason for thinking this. I was wondering if you would like to reenter the discussion to clarify your points and/or dispute his claims. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 15:44, 12 November 2013 (UTC)  Done His attitude is pretty gross in m opinion and I don't really want to be involved with this discussion anymore because of it, but I've clarified my argument for the sake of consensus. Consider it a drive-by comment. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 04:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC) Wisdom Tree TKK Hi. :) Thank you for your time, review and suggestions, regarding my article for the film The Wisdom Tree. I've just resubmitted it, based on the advice I received, and have ensured I present just the facts about the film. I'd like to just add though that since the film has not had its theatrical release, only limited number of people have seen the film (at the two events mentioned in the article). Hence, at this point providing further references from newspaper articles or citations from elsewhere is not feasible. Nevertheless I have taken utmost care to ensure there's neither fluff, nor peacock enhancement on the story, nor for the characters, crew or music composers. Truly, would appreciate your green flag on this one. :) Here's an article about a film with just bare bones information. Hope to read this article here on Wikipedia. :) Thanks a bunch again, for your time. Pictowrit (talk) 23:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)pictowrit TKK Hello again. Just wanted to say thanks for your response. No doubt, I am disappointed at this point. I have responded to the reviewer Cerebellum. I was hoping that since the film has been screened already at two events including one just last month, and is now only two weeks away from its premiere in San Francisco, it would be acceptable as fact that the film production is complete. Neither the general public per se, nor the media would have seen the film in a theater, hence reviews are most unlikely. After all, it's an indie and not through Sundance. But I have read feedback from folks who watched the film at Emory University, and at the event in San Jose. Now, at this stage, I am curious to know if the same topic can be initiated by another person independently while mine is routed through the AFC process (and is pending currently). This would help me determine whether I should research and edit my draft further, or simply wait for the film's release after which there are bound to be reviews or references in the media; or who knows, wake up to see the article written and published by someone else! :) Thanks much for your time. Pictowrit (talk) 02:36, 25 November 2013 (UTC)pictowrit Sorry, I didn't see this until now. You may want to read WP:CRYSTAL, as I think it applies here; it may in fact be beneficial to you to move the page into your userspace and wait for more sources after release, then you can put those into the article and publish it yourself or put it back up at AfC. As it stands, you've said it yourself - "Neither the general public per se, nor the media would have seen the film in a theater" at this time, so it's not notable enough right now for inclusion. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 09:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Piano Sonatas of Galina Ustvolskaya Thank you very much for your review and feedback on this pending page! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Piano_Sonatas_of_Galina_Ustvolskaya). My vision for this is actually to link from the existing Galina Ustvolskaya page to this new page, which is much more specific. For example, on the current Ustvolskaya page, several of her works (i.e. the symphonies) have separate pages devoted to deeper discussion. I'd like to simply do the same with the piano sonatas. Thanks again, Kdj24370 (talk) 04:43, 24 November 2013 (UTC) Ahh, okay! If you resubmit it I'll push it though. I thought you were working on a new section for the article or something. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 04:45, 24 November 2013 (UTC) Tikuko, How do I ensure that you'll be the one to review my resubmission? Kdj24370 (talk) 22:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC) Hi Tikuko and Kdj24370. I've gone ahead and moved this to Piano Sonatas (Ustvolskaya) following the normal naming practices for classical compositions and added a link to it under the "Works" section of Galina Ustvolskaya. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 14:40, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Richwater Films Pretty brazen COI with this editor. He has more or less identified himself, I'd say pretty explicitly. I don't think he's trying to disguise who he is. Dougweller (talk) 11:41, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Yeah pretty blatant but I was hesitant to mark it as advertising since it's not really... advertising, especially compared to the more obvious advertising that I've seen at AfC. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 11:47, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Lol. 'Loaded' is a bit OTT but I'm sure if it ever hits mainspace it'll be edited out at some point. He tried to add it to some lists but I removed it. Did you look at their website?[9] - as I said, COI. Dougweller (talk) 17:22, 25 November 2013 (UTC) I don't expect it to hit mainspace lol. I don't consider COI the sole reason to not put an article through AfC, one of the reasons it exists is to help COI editors write about the thing they're close to ex. I plan on using it for User:Tikuko/sandbox2 when I'm finished with it, since I work there. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 19:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC) Regarding DEX New York article Hello! You have cited that there was no significant changes in the article since the last submission. Please do note that whole sections have been deleted to comply with the neutral POV. What would you recommend to make the article comply with neutral POV? Thank you. (p.s. Apologies for removing the previous rejections. I thought it was necessary.) Starczamora (talk) 09:45, 27 November 2013 (UTC) When I went and looked in the article history, it looked like you had simply removed the previous rejection notice and resubmitted. I didn't notice that you'd pulled text. It's not the content itself that's problematic, it was your word choice; looking at it now it looks fine and I'll go ahead and approve it. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 18:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC) Weird AfC submission Normally I would ask User:Salvidrim! for help but he's offline. I came across this at AfC. It's a poem or song lyrics of some kind, written by the user, however I'm not comfortable just marking it and moving on because the tone of the poem is... kind of dark in a "this user may be a risk" way and I didn't know if there was policy in place for dealing with things like that. I am aware of WP:SUICIDE but this doesn't seem that extreme. Do I just reject it as WP:NOT and move on or is there something else I should do or ??? --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 06:57, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Offline? What's that? ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 07:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Goddamn. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 07:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC) WMF e-mailed because this couldn't be a clearer cry for help; RevDel'ed as per advice on responding to concerns of a person in distress. No other steps taken at this time, awaiting intervention from WMF to extend a hand and offer assistance in a way that will perhaps be better than a mere talk page post. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 07:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC) WMF replied that they're looking it. Thanks for your vigilance, Tikuko. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 07:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Thanks Salv! --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 07:17, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Thanks to the great work of the WMF staffer on call, it seems that piece of poetry was posted by seemingly the same author about two months ago; this seems to indicate it is not an immediate cry for help. I've thus restored the submission so you can decline as per normal copyvio procedure. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 07:48, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Talkback Hello, Tikuko. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewer help. Message added 17:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Bellerophon talk to me 17:05, 29 November 2013 (UTC) declined DUROMAC article Hi, you just delete my page in AFC. You write the comments that the product section seems like advertising, I don't know how can I improve it, can you help me with that? I'd really appreciate it.--Clover1991 (talk) 01:45, 30 November 2013 (UTC) Hello TKK, you can call me 74. I've been trying to help Clover source the Duromac article, and stay neutral about the prose. They are in touch with the Duromac CEO, which makes it hard for them to stay neutral, since they are proud of the company. Do you have time to give Clover some additional constructive pointers? They are learning, but this wikipedia process has been a bit of an emotional rollercoaster for them. Perhaps you can teach them the nature of the chill-like-a-lizard phenomenon.   If you do have some time, myself or Clover can point you at the relevant working-draft-stuff on our user-talkpages, but the immediate concern is whether we should just nix the product-list, and if so, whether we have justfied Notability well enough. We have a couple decent sources that provide reasonably in-depth coverage (couple paragraphs of copy each... but referencing a real-world event in both cases, and in both cases attended by prominent Malaysian officials personally). We also have several WP:NOTEWORTHY mentions. Not all our sources are in the current AfC submission; we're trying to start small, and build up organically, due to some COPYVIO problems earlier. Anyways, WP:REQUIRED applies, feel free to say so if you are too busy at present. In any case, thanks for improving wikipedia, and thanks especially for working AfC, it is appreciated. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 02:33, 30 November 2013 (UTC) Okay, I didn't delete the page, i declined it, haha. I would add your available sources; copyvio problems tend to arise when you start wording things too close to the original more than anything else so avoid that if possible. There's no citations or anything in the product section so removing it wouldn't really affect the notability of the article. I'm rarely actually busy, I'm just not as active on WP as I used to be. If you drop me a line I can usually get back to you after work / class haha. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 07:18, 30 November 2013 (UTC) Great, thanks. Clover is in Malaysia methinks, so there will be some timezone mismatch perhaps, but I bet we can slowly get the article worked into shape. Do you want questions here on your talkpage, or is it better to stick them in the comment-section of the AfC, so that you'll see them, and anybody else that may show an interest also sees the same stuff? Or we can discuss in the AfC, and ping your talkpage from time to time when we get stuck. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 17:47, 30 November 2013 (UTC) Whatever is easiest for you, I'm flexible :) --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 18:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC) I put a comment in the AfC comment-section, and moved the product-listing down to a rough-draft area. Can you peek at the sources we have so far, and see whether you think Duromac passes the wikiNotability sound-barrier yet? We have two decently-in-depth sources, plus a couple more potentially-significant-coverage possibilities (Good&ThoroughJob plus the LIMA expo). There are also a few wikiNoteworthy mentions. So it is a bit grey-area, but I'm leaning towards a short mainspace article being suitable now. The company has been selling sweeper-gear and sweeping-services to cities and companies since 1996, but they just started winning military-maintenance-contracts in 2012, and they already have two (one for runways-sweepers and another unrelated one for 6x6-army-trucks). They've had political connections since 2008 at least. If we can get a thumbs-up thumbs-down opinion on whether our sources are good enough yet, that would help make Clover's emotional roller-coaster of creation and deletion a bit smoother.  :-)   And of course, if you have time to help convert the sources into neutral sentences, that is also tough for Clover to achieve alone, since they are friends with people in high places at the firm. I'll try to help out with that as well, but am a bit time-constrained at present. Thanks for improving wikipedia, bark bark bark. p.s. You should hang out with Roxy the dog sometime, they know where all the best biscuits are buried. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 23:56, 1 December 2013 (UTC) hey, Thanks both of you would like to help me with my article :) I really appreciate it. Tikuko, Could you please check all references that 74 put in my AFC article? I am sorry for that I can not really write a natural point view article, because I am too familiar with DUROMAC and it is very hard for me to write in a natural way. If you have time, could you please help me for writing a product section, or you could give me some suggestion and I will write it by myself. Also, please help check all of references, which belongs to Wiki Noteworthy mentions. Thanks for your time! 74 and Tikuko, Thanks for helping me :)--Clover1991 (talk) 03:18, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013

Why where my templates denied? Why were my templates denied. I was intending to use them. Could you please go back and check them out. Besides the Lines exist and the Valley Line LRT templates are missing entirely from Wikipedia. Please reconsider and approve them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingeroscar (talk • contribs) 05:55, 2 December 2013 (UTC) What you submitted were not templates. Also, there is a Valley Line LRT template, it's right there: {{Valley Line (ETS)}}. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 06:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Graham Island (Sicily) Hi! It is probably best to point a new user to improve an existing article, instead of approving a AFC submission that started as a copy-paste of a existing article, as just happened with Graham Island (Sicily), which started as a copy of Ferdinandea (I have merged them now). Just a thought, thank you for or effort, anyway. Enjoy! - Nabla (talk) 20:54, 29 November 2013 (UTC) Sorry, for some reason I didn't do my usual google a snippet test on this one. Thank you!--TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 07:05, 30 November 2013 (UTC) No problemo. Tks - Nabla (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC) Your AFC decline Hi, You declined Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Entrepreneurship Cell, IIT Kanpur because itt already existed in mainspace, whereas it didnt. The article you pointed to was of IIT Kharagpur which is different from IIT Kanpur, which is the subject of the AFC in question. Please check before declining other AFCs. I have reverted your decline. Regards, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:12, 3 December 2013 (UTC) article has been deleted because of including copyrighted information I am trying to create an artcile on the organization I work for. It is the European Theatre Convention. I am the owner of all copyrights on the ETC. Why has my article been deleted again? It exists already in German - almost the same text. Thansk for your help Andrea from the ETC — Preceding unsigned comment added by European Theatre Convention 2013 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 3 December 2013 (UTC) (talk page stalker) Please see: Donating Copyrighted Materials -- Alexf(talk) 18:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Erie Business Center Thank you for looking over my submission! It is my first article, and getting that reference template to work correct was a bit of a pain :D I have made an update, and resubmitted, so I will hope for the best. The reason I am posting here was in regards to the COI discussion near the top of the page. I am also facing that issue, and have been quite careful to avoid anything "Promo-y" in the page. I simply want to get a page started, and have it open to the public for any further information someone would like to add. If you do see something that is "toeing-the-line" could you please let me know? Much thanks! Idoitfor (talk) 15:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC) I understand! The issue isn't your launguage, it's the fact that none of your references show notability. You need to provide references that would show that the Business Center is important. The majority of the references you have are to first-party sources, that are directly tied to the subject matter. The FAFSA page is a good start, but doesn't impart any real information. The Department of Education page is also good, but isn't third party. Are there news reports, for example about the school celebrating it's 100th or 130th anniversary, about construction or major events, etc etc? Those would help establish some kind of notability. --TKK public (talk) 04:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC) Three Kings High You have recently denied my submission for Three Kings High due to notability? There are links to interviews, features, reviews, IMDb profiles, promotional campaigns, yet this still gets denied. I draw your attention to a number of profiles where there are NONE of these, yet the listings go live? All they have done is link to their own record labels? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braintax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Spesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verb_T Thanks BillyBolivia (talk) 12:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC) WP:Other stuff exists. This is not a reason for your article to pass AfC. You need to provide sources which aren't directly tied to the record label, the artist, or press releases from either of these. Interviews are directly connected. You provided one review, which is acceptable, an IMDb profile which doesn't establish notability, and lots of promotional material or music videos which don't really establish anything at all. They aren't verifiable. Thank you for pointing out the three articles, I'm looking at them now and will be bringing them to WP:AfD if it's appropriate. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 12:46, 9 December 2013 (UTC) I have now included additional, non relatable links. These are separate from the artist themselves, and are independent of the record label or people involved with the band. I was using those as an example, there are many, many more, though this entry has as many notable entries as some band pages such as The Heavy or Sonic Boom Six BillyBolivia (talk) 13:02, 9 December 2013 (UTC) maxpapa Why is maxpapa deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clextan (talk • contribs) 14:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC) It was not deleted, when you submitted the article it was blank. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 15:13, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Daniel Rebour tikuko hi you reviewed a submission from me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wlexxx#Your_submission_at_Articles_for_creation:_Daniel_Rebour_.28December_8.29 let;s say i fixed the problems you mentioned could the article still be rejected for other reasons? i am specifically wondering if the subject [daniel rebour, french bike illustrator] would be considered important enough? in the past, that was the issue.. how could i find that out without doing a lot of work to correct and improve the article, then finding out the subject isn;t good enough? thanks wle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.19.221.250 (talk) 18:22, 9 December 2013 (UTC) You can google him and see what turns up. I just took about ten minutes to look and didn't turn up too much. He has passing mentions, but those don't make him notable, and his own website and wordpress won't be considered reliable. However there are several results in google books; the Cycling Chain book was apparently illustrated by him? It may be worth seeking reviews of the book. It also looks like th--TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 01:50, 10 December 2013 (UTC)ere is a line of leather bike parts named after him? Signature concerns Hello Tikuko, my name is Howicus. Today User:Drjignesh came onto the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel. Besides question about their article, they also talked about feeling offended by your signature, since they thought it was like calling people who posted on your talk page "dogs". Now, I'm sure you didn't mean to offend anyone, but "dog" can have various connotations in different cultures, and I thought you'd want to know that someone is upset by your sig. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 03:15, 14 December 2013 (UTC) It's a reference to this song; no harm / insult / etc intended. You might have figured out from my user page / contribs that I'm pretty active with WP:DOG, I never really even thought about it being offensive. I have no problem changing it. --TKK! bark with me if you're my dog! 04:03, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions Hello: just a note that in your declination of the submission at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Carla Caceres, your comment there regarding inline citations is outdated. Please see the project's Reviewing instructions page, section General standards and invalid reasons for declining a submission page, where this is documented. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:05, 16 December 2013 (UTC) So BLPs without inline cites are accepted now? Christ. --TKK! bark with me! 05:14, 16 December 2013 (UTC) My understanding is that only potentially contentious claims require an inline ref; the AfC submission linked to by Northamerica1000 doesn't seem to make a claim of anything besides simple facts, which could be considered non-contentious. At least that's how I see it. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 05:52, 16 December 2013 (UTC) I wasn't involved in formulation of the Reviewing instructions page. To contest information there, you'd have to contact those involved. I just adhere to the current rules. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 06:54, 16 December 2013 (UTC) Dread Pirate Roberts Hi Tikuko, the article is not the same as Ross William Ulbricht, who has merely been accused, not convicted. Thanks, Matty.007 15:28, 22 December 2013 (UTC) According to this in the afc they're the same. --TKK! bark with me! 15:38, 22 December 2013 (UTC) According to the FBI he is, but all the sources say "accused", they don't want to get it wrong, nor should we. I think that a DPR article is better than a possible BLP violation in accusing one man the FBI think did it. Thanks, Matty.007 17:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC) I added a section on Ulbricht's denial, which is what we have to believe until more info becomes available. Thanks, Matty.007 17:54, 22 December 2013 (UTC) WP:DEPTH WP:DEPTH was a redlink, but you weren't the only one to use it. It's blue now. I hope it points to the place you were thinking of. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC) I didn't even realize. Thank you! --TKK! bark with me! 03:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC) Motor Trader article submission Dear Tikuko, I understand that my submission was declined for the article "Motor Trader Malaysia". Its a premier and well respected motoring classifieds magazine in Malaysia. I provided all the references and citations that were asked of me but the article was still declined. Please let me know what the problem really is. As for references, there aren't many as what has been given is all that exists at the moment. The issue I have is that mainly the only source that provides any depth of coverage is the Yahoo news source, which would leave some of the article unsourced even when it's considered as a sort of blanket reference (we call them 'general references' here). The other source seems to be 98% about the car game they purchased rights to so it's not really relevant. I googled quickly and found a mention here but I can't actually see the text. Does the magazine have a Malaysian name by any chance? Your sources don't need to be in English, so if there's a Malaysian translation of the name, you could try to find sources under that name and include them. You might also try extrapolating to 'Proto Malaysia' and seeing if you can find anything that way. --TKK! bark with me! 08:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC) Camp Poyntelle Lewis Village The proposed deletion from a few months ago was contested and an administrator restored the page. I removed most of the stuff that was written like an advertisement. Just wanted to let you know. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:06, 23 December 2013 (UTC) Thank you. --TKK! bark with me! 08:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC) Your submission at AfC Hollywood Casino Hotel and Raceway was accepted Hollywood Casino Hotel and Raceway, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer. If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:39, 27 December 2013 (UTC) Woo! --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 01:16, 29 December 2013 (UTC) Your Leavitt Bulldog decline Hello Tikuko You declined [[10]] because the references. Also did you comment on the UKC letter of recognition. Please notice that I deliberately put that in as a link and I did not used it as a reference I never told in my article that we are a recognized breed also Wikipedia does not require that. Look at the Mongrel dogs they have a page but the FCI ,AKC or the UKC do not recognize them as a breed but still they may share information on your platform. [[11]] We do not want to be a recognized breed by the UKC the letter just showed we are fully capable of being a parent club for our own Leavitt Bulldog within the UKC if we wanted. The main reason not to do so is because we (Leavitt Bulldog Association) do want to bring in Out crosses when needed to keep our Bulldog healthy and we do not want to be stock in a gene pool. The UKC and the Old English Bulldog have other believes we do respect that. Also you removed my history part this is for me unacceptable we do may have the same history as the Old English Bulldog but sins 2006 we have our own not recognized breed and our own studbook and we want to show the world our history even if its the same. David Leavitt is the creator of both breeds but he choose to be with the Leavitt Bulldog Association becuase this is how he ment the dogs must look like and to be as healthy as they are now. In Germany we have an official club recognized by law. Our registration number in Germany is UR.-NR.1611/2012 S. [[12]] Therefor I want to ask politely to restore my page. If you have any advice on the reverences I made now i would be more than happy to learn them so I can finish my page the proper way you want it to be Kind regards, Barry Schutte [[13]] I didn't delete the page, I don't know what you want me to restore. I removed a single unsourced quote which could create copyright issues and that's it. The fact that the quote composed the entirety of the history section is not my doing The issue is the lack of sources referring to the breed. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Murray River Curly Coated Retriever for a similar scenario. The only source you have provided that is even remotely third party is this, and it does not look reliable. Your 'further reading' section is not being used as sources at current so I can't speak to those. Pinging SagaciousPhil (talk · contribs) because you're also involved with WP:DOG--<fonts color="black">TKK! bark with me! 17:15, 18 December 2013 (UTC) I can also see that your article has been declined numerous times previously forthe same reason. This is clearly not a problem noticed only by me. You'll also probably want to address the promotional nature of some of the phrasing used in the article. --TKK! bark with me! 17:17, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Hi TKK, I've just been looking at the draft (which seems to have been re-submitted?). AFC is not an area I work in but I don't think the article can be accepted and should be declined: it only has a primary source, the Leavitt Bulldog Association and is in fact almost in it's entirety a reproduction of it's website. I notice that it is marked as copyright (although an old version IS indicated via the archival system as CC licensed); it is promotional, therefore not neutral; I did a quick search on google books this published in 2009 just confirms Leavitt claims to have established the "Olde English Bulldogge" I do not see how this meets the WP:GNG so I think it should be declined - I would do it if I knew how SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:20, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Hello to you both. I see your having problems but it’s not only to promote. It is because lots of countries look first at Wikipedia therefor I make my page to inform. I tried to show with my reverences that we are a breed on our own and that other see that as well. I do not understand why this is for you such a big problem It clearly by now to showed that we are not the Old English Bulldog and that we have dogs who have different appearances. I thought Wikipedia was an encyclopedia for everyone who wants to edit but you make it very hard by now Also searching books shows indeed that Leavitt was the founder of the olde English Bulldog but like i wrote ,in 2006 we choose to go our own way with our breed and 7 years later we can clearly see that our dogs are different — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedombulls (talk • contribs) 19:35, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Hi, I can appreciate you are trying to promote dogs that you are passionate about but you have to establish it is notable. The only reference you really have is to your own breed club. Even your own breed club site says David Leavitt established Olde English bulldogges, which is also confirmed by the book I indicated in my comment above. You would have to find independent reliable sources discussing the Leavitt Bulldog and these do not seem to be available - I did try doing a quick search to see if I could find any but had no success. SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:52, 18 December 2013 (UTC) re-instating my comment which appears to have inadvertently been deleted when Freedombulls altered his comment above. SagaciousPhil - Chat 20:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Hello I found one from the BBC program pedigree exposed Is this what you looking for see my article Gr--Freedombulls (talk) 20:59, 18 December 2013 (UTC) Unfortunately, that is Jemima Harrison's personal blog so is most definitely not a reliable source. It is not a BBC endorsed site. SagaciousPhil - Chat 21:13, 18 December 2013 (UTC) But Tikuko and Phil it doesn't make sense and I don't get it. Why would Leavitt create two different breeds, one called OEB ( Olde English Bulldogge and the other Leavitt bulldog? Hafspajen (talk) 14:19, 21 December 2013 (UTC) From what I can discern, Leavitt created the OEB, lost direct control of the breed, and decided to abandon it and create the Leavitt Bulldog so he could have more control over the breed. They are, in almost all regards except that of the two breed clubs, identical. --TKK! bark with me! 19:59, 21 December 2013 (UTC) David Leavitt did not get lost of control he simply did not was happy the way the OEB heading. Therefor read the history it is fundamentally different we started with a view selected specimens and work from there to reestablishing our goal to breed healthier Bulldogs with slimmer and less bone dog. Our dogs are now slimmer and healthier . Even if it looks the same as the OEB we are entitled as much to inform the world of our existence as much as everyone else Again read PLEASE carefully and you see we are different . PS i also change the part you linked in the [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Olde_English_Bulldogge&diff=587136419&oldid=587095861]] he is a writter from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S. and not the creator from Coatesville, PA --Freedombulls (talk) 21:34, 21 December 2013 (UTC) My comment was to explain to Hafspajen about the two breeds, not a critique of the breed. You are entitled to inform the world of your existance, yes, but if you cannot meet the general notability guidelines then you aren't entitled to a Wikipedia article until you can. It's not a "never, ever" thing. It just means that right now Leavitt Bulldogs don't meet the criteria. These are from the notability guideline: Significant coverage: There is not significant coverage of the Leavitt Bulldog. There are passing mentions of it, but outside of its own website there isn't really any coverage. "Reliable: The only "reliable" source, really, is the NYT article, and that is not significant coverage. It's a passing mention of the breed. The breed website is not reliable, because it is written by people directly involved with the breed. For example, say I breed poodles (I don't) and wrote an article about their personalities. Because I have a vested interest in poodles (I breed them), my article is considered a "first party" or "primary" source and can't be used as an article source. This ties into... Independent of the subject: The breed club sources and kennel club sources are not independent. They can be used, absolutely, but they do not establish notability Just some things to think about. No one is saying your breed isn't valid or doesn't deserve an article, we're saying that it isn't ready to have one yet. It doesn't matter how different or similarly the breeds are or how 'entitled' you are to inform the world of your breed's existance. You've already done that, you have a website. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 23:58, 21 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TKK public (talk • contribs) So it’s difficult if you are not mentioned enough in magazines or books. But if you were mentioned in television by a program the whole world looked at. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4tTjdZJpPI See from 46 min and 23 seconds In written [[14]] Gr Barry--Freedombulls (talk) 00:32, 22 December 2013 (UTC) That's still not showing depth of coverage. It's only a passing mention. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 01:15, 22 December 2013 (UTC) Well, sure... but passing mention is WP:NOTEWORTHY, and we already have an article on OEB, the 1970s variation. Now that Leavitt has taken his own strain in a new direction, and there has been some mention of it, methinks a bullet-point and/or a sentence-fragment over in the Olde English Bulldogge article makes sense, right? Especially since the readership might easily be confused, see my long-winded post about the LOEB versus LB, some places I looked on the interwebs conflated the two prior to 2005-or-so. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 02:57, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Hello, Tikuko Hello, Tikuko! Hope you still remember me! 74 and I already done DUROMAC article again in AFC page. We wish you could spend few minutes and go through the whole article. If you find anything should be improved, please inform us here or my talk page. Thanks in adavance. Here is a link of my AFC page[15]--Clover1991 (talk) 06:15, 27 December 2013 (UTC) I'd approve this, this is almost a 200% improvement from what it was before! I'm going to shuffle the images around a little bit if that's ok though, I think that top image would look better in the side bar along with the logo. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 21:11, 27 December 2013 (UTC) Clover tried to get the resubmit-thing to work, but the "intermediate" page (which has a hidden html comment in the textarea saying to "just click save below to continue" ... but uses about 99 words to say as much) was confusing. I've done the resubmit. You think we should take out the sentence-list of customers, or anything? They're truthful, so far as I can tell, but they aren't backed up by mutual-aboutself as yet. We put a wee bit of fat in, so the AfD folks would have *something* to cut.  :-)   Happy proleptic gregorian increment, thanks for improving wikipedia. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

January 2014

Dominic Lord has gone live despite your declination. I'm tagging for deletion. Unless you want it back? Dlohcierekim 03:32, 1 January 2014 (UTC) I moved it back to the declined AfC. If it's moved again, move-protection should be an option. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 03:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC) Thanks all! Sorry I missed the excitement. --TKK! bark with me! 02:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Your Kanin Decline Hello! You had recently declined the page for Kanin (rapper) due to non-credible sources. I was just wondering how I could improve the sources. The sources citing mixtapes and singles are coming directly from the rapper's own website, and the majority of the information was taken from a personal bio he gave on multiple websites that look for new artists. Also I was wondering if there was a way to cite e-mails as I have been e-mailing the artist. If you could help me with this that would be great as I would really like to do a professional job. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoungeFlyRockstar (talk • contribs) 22:09, 2 January 2014 (UTC) LoungeFlyRockstar (talk) 22:12, 2 January 2014 (UTC) Sorry for not signing at first! Your sources need to be third party to establish notability. None of those sources are third party. Interviews with the artist by you would be considered original research and also would not be approrpriate references or establish notability. You need to include sources like album reviews, show reviews, etc published in magazines or on websites like Pitchfork (Not on blogs) so you can prove that the artist is notable enough to be included. Otherwise the artist can say anything he wants about himself on his own sites and in interviews and the information is not verifiable. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 00:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC) Happy Holiday's Freedombulls (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Holiday wishes! Tikuko, thanks for your hard work this year, you deserve wonderful holidays! I wish you success and happiness in your endeavours for this coming year, and I hope we'll be able to carry on improving the wonderful project that is Wikipedia together! Keep rocking on! :) Salvidrim!, wrapping up another great year of collaboration with y'all! Merry Christmas Holiday Cheer Hafspajen talkback is wishing you Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings. - Hafspajen Merry Christmas ans a Happy new year Hafspajen (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message. A barnstar for you! The Tireless Contributor Barnstar I have since found how to contribute Irish-language articles. Congratulations on over 10,000 edits as well! Go raibh maith agat! Irishcontributor16 (talk) 20:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC) Thank you! Although I'm not sure what that gaelic phrase means, haha :) --TKK! bark with me! 04:21, 5 January 2014 (UTC) Nominating G13-eligible submission for deletion Hello Tikuko: I see that you have been looking over some of the G13 eligible Afc submissions and nominating some for deletion. I have been doing some myself. You may already know about this, but just in case, I thought I'd give you a heads-up on an ongoing discussion about the process. Each one that you nominate has to be checked by an admin, and they are apparently mixed in with the more urgent speedy deletions. Those of us who have been doing it find that if we do too many at one time some of the admins are getting stressed out about the workload. If you check this category you can see how many have been nominated and are awaiting admin attention. If there are more than 50 or so in the queue it may be too soon to nominate more. If I am in the mood to check some and the queue is pretty full already, I keep track of which ones I've already checked HERE and leave them for the Hasteurbot, which comes along regularly and nominates the oldest ones until there are 50 in the queue. You are welcome to participate. If you were already aware of this, please disregard this message! Happy editing, —Anne Delong (talk) 23:27, 4 January 2014 (UTC) Thank you, I'll check the queue in the future; however I am finding the drafts via the subject search while looking for articles awaiting review with certain keywords and not by dates. It wasn't my intention to cause anyone stress! --TKK! bark with me! 04:19, 5 January 2014 (UTC) Thanks for helping out - there are so many to go through! It's only a problem if you do a large batch. —Anne Delong (talk) 09:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC) If you will let Anne any me know what keywords you are looking for, we can work in synchnrony with you, with less chance of losing the few good articles there may be. Personally, I think the more different ways people check the better, but it always helps to go from the oldest first. DGG ( talk ) 22:56, 6 January 2014 (UTC) Ive been going through mostly animal related keywords; today I went through 'snake', i've gone through some of 'dog', 'ferret', 'catte', and 'breed'. My interest areas onwiki tend to be animal related so that tends to be what I'm looking through - I was actually looking for articles awaiting review but since I was finding so many drafts tagged as deleteable I figured I might as well tag the ones that didn't look savable. --TKK! bark with me! 23:01, 6 January 2014 (UTC) I as well do not always work with oldest of the >6 month old ones, but sometimes look at the ones awaiting review. I check academics, executives, companies, authors, and anything miscellaneous that looks interesting. But I'm looking not just for what can pass into mainspace, but I (and Anne, I think) are also looking for what should be deferred 6 months to give it a chance to be worked on further, tho not all of these will actually work out. The easiest way to rest the clock to 6 months is to make a non-trivial edit. DGG ( talk ) 02:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC) Articles for creation/eXosip Hi Tikuko, Tks for reviewing my article for creation/eXosip. You have declined submission. If I understand correctly, the main reason is "This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability". I have updated the article to include 5 Thesis with references and removed a link which obviously was not bringing anything interesting. As these new references are clear academic reference, I guess they confirm notability of eXosip? May I submit the page again or can you advise for additionnal change, removal or rewriting of some references? Aymoizard (talk) 13:32, 8 January 2014 (UTC) Additionnal note: I just have re-organized the list of academic link using wikipedia specific keyword for thesis, and I also have added a few books reference talking about eXosip. Aymoizard (talk) 14:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC) The issue is that the sources you are providing (wiki pages, download pages, etc) do not establish notability. You need more things like your book references. Is it possible for you to actually cite those academic papers? --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 03:12, 10 January 2014 (UTC) SneedBCollardIII resubmission Hi TKK, In reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/SneedBCollardIII , I made a few changes to highlight the author's notability, and resubmitted the page: He is recognized for his work by the American Association for the Advancement of Science He received the Washington Post/Children's Book Guild Award which is presented annually to "an author or illustrator whose total body of work has contributed significantly to the quality of nonfiction for children. He was interviewed by WETA-TV for PBS He has written over 50 books. By way of comparison, see for excample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Hinshaw_Patent Thanks, User:Stevei —Preceding undated comment added 17:01, 9 January 2014 (UTC) Since it's already been created, I'm not going to bother commenting. Congratulations! --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 03:13, 10 January 2014 (UTC) Dogo Sardo Hi, TKK, here's me showing my ignorance of the WP:AFC and page curation stuff again! This new article Dogo Sardo just came up on my watch list as it has been created by an editor I had reason to leave messages on their talk page previously. Has the article been accepted? No refs or notability as far as I can tell - or is it still in the draft section? Maybe one day I'll have to try dipping a toe in the new article creation process! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC) WP:Page Curation is more akin to New Page Patrol than WP:AFC; it reviews recently created pages after publication, instead of before; pages are commonly tagged, CSD'ed/PROD'ed but rarely userfied or sent back to AfC/Draft, for some reason. I just did some cleanup and left a talk page message, as it had been previously deleted as a PROD and then a G12 but neither apply at the moment so I've left it up to someone more knowledgeable on the topic of dog breeds to decide whether it should be AfD'ed or improved. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 23:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC) Sorry Phil, I've been on a bit of a Saints Row: The Third bender. The Molosser Dogs site is user-submitted so it won't fly. I've seen agraria on other italian dog articles, I believe it's the Italian Department of Agriculture or similar. Yes, it's been created; there's no large flashy banner on the page and it's article space. It didn't go through AfC. Page curation is the toolbar that NPP uses to patrol pages. As far as other sources, I found this but it doesn't look like it's on the up and up. --TKK! bark with me! 09:19, 12 January 2014 (UTC) (edit conflict)Thanks for your responses - *sigh* I have just nominated it for AFD but we all know from experience how that can end up ... SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:55, 12 January 2014 (UTC) UC-HiPACC Proposed Article I have added many secondary references per your comment on problems preventing publication. I hope this improves it to where it may be published. Thank you for your time and consideration.Sjzaslaw (talk) 21:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC) Thank you. I'm going to leave this for someone else to review, though; I only addressed the referencing problem because it was an obvious issue. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 23:48, 12 January 2014 (UTC) DYK for Tom Crutchfield  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:02, 16 January 2014 (UTC) photography What country do you live in, because I would like some photos of castlewood and coopers lake; as well as biggar trout pond (see lakes of Biggar, Saskatchewan ). I do have photos of these lakes/ponds but I don't have an account and I don't want to make one, so what could I do? 24.89.95.149 (talk) 21:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC) I live in the US, sadly, in Maine. You can get someone to upload your files here, or you can host them externally somewhere like imgur and provide me the links and I can transfer them over for you. I'd give you my email address but I don't want it public, and I don't think you can email me through Wikipedia without an account. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 23:50, 17 January 2014 (UTC) Medical Respite Care Proposed Article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Medical_Respite_Care I've added references to examples, articles and webpages, while also correcting some grammar and removing extra words. Thank you for your help in reviewing this, please let me know if there is anything else I can add. Nicgranum (talk) 23:54, 13 January 2014 I've made a few changes but I'll leave it up to someone with more experience with medical articles to make the next call. --TKK public (Bark at me \\ Block this account if it's acting funny!) 23:55, 17 January 2014 (UTC) Unsourced BLPs in AfC space If there's nothing negative in an unsourced BLP in AfC space, it doesn't need to be blanked. Just decline it as usual. Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:41, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

July 2014
Miss ya Hopefully in the future you find some time for Wikipedia again! ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 01:53, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

September 2014
Hey! TKK! TKK, I had to do a double take to make sure it really was you! Great to see you back! SagaciousPhil - Chat 19:32, 30 September 2014 (UTC) I still don't have wifi where I'm at but I do get update emails. I might be more active doing gnomey stuff now that I have wifi at work again! -03:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

December 2014

Best wishes for a happy holiday season Happy Holiday Cheer Season's Greetings! This message celebrates the holiday season, promotes WikiLove, and hopefully makes your day a little better. Spread the seasonal good cheer by wishing another user an Awesome Holiday and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings! Joys!Hafspajen (talk) 02:29, 23 December 2014 (UTC) Your crosses + extras File:Yorkie Pin.jpg File:Yorkshire Malteser Mix.jpg Yorkshire Malteser Mix Cavapoo Alaskan Collie Border Collie x Whippet Cockapoo Stafford-Labrador-Mix :Labradoodle Other? Phalene x spaniel Westi-Pudel American Bulldog - is that a breed? You are so much better at this than me Hafs! Thank you! --TKK! bark with me! 00:00, 28 December 2014 (UTC) Well, hope some of this might be useful for your project. Hafspajen (talk) 01:56, 28 December 2014 (UTC) Happy New Year Tikuko! Happy New Year! Tikuko, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Hafspajen (talk) 10:51, 31 December 2014 (UTC) Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

January 2015

Draft:Andrei Prychodko Why did you submit this draft for review? It's not your draft so I can only assume WP:G13 was on your mind. Chris Troutman (talk) 01:02, 5 January 2015 (UTC) It was up for G13. Figured it would be better off submitted than deleted or pushed into the endless cycle of 'find sources for this' that some editors seem to enjoy. --TKK! bark with me! 02:33, 5 January 2015 (UTC) Ok. Reason I ask is because an interested party said it wasn't ready for submission and I thought it odd. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC) regarding: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/CUplex I did not submit the article (User:Tungilik did) but once it was submitted and it was declined I added references and a new title. It was again declined. I feel that the article CUplex is notable being the major civic/recreation/sports centre of North Battleford and should have been accepted. -- Kayoty (talk) 05:01, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

Leiuperidae Hello, I undid you redirect of Leiuperinae to Leiuperidae because the Amphibian Species of the World [16] does not recognize the latter (nor does AmphibiaWeb or IUCN RedList, the two other most used sources of information about amphibians in Wikipedia). I do not think that the Animal Diversity Web is an authoritative source that can override the ASW. Accordingly, the Leiuperidae page should probably be moved to Leiuperinae. Micromesistius (talk) 10:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Didn't realize that. Can do. I was filling in missing articles from Skysmith's list and it didn't even dawn on me that that might be why I couldn't find any great sources for that family. @Salvidrim!: can you move that page real quick? --TKK! bark with me! 16:59, 22 May 2015 (UTC)  moved. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 17:02, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Thank you!! --TKK! bark with me! 18:44, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Tikuko, I was missing the name of a frog family, and after seeing your article I remembered it. Anyways, keep it up and don't forget to add the categories. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 20:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC) Draft:George Wickham I'm a little confused with some of your points in the Draft:George Wickham review: How can I make it read more like an article? Could you please point out some of the instances of original research? --110.20.234.69 (talk) 21:36, 24 May 2015 (UTC) Compare it to some of the other character articles, for example Elizabeth Bennet. Your article reads like an essay on the character, not like an encyclopedia article. Encyclopedia articles avoid the use of phrases like "we", which your article makes amble use of, amongst others. Perhaps I inferred too much based on my experience with people who write in that style vis the original research and for that I apologize. --TKK! bark with me! 23:38, 24 May 2015 (UTC) Thanks for the clarification - perhaps the article still has some grammatical flourishes from the French original. I got in touch with one of the major authors of the original article, and he's given me some assistance on the sourcing. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 11:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

November 2017

09:42:47, 29 November 2017 review of submission by 41.73.7.146 41.73.7.146 (talk · contribs) Draft:Dr. Obiora Okonkwo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) INFORMATION CONTAINED IN MATERIAL SUBMITTED FOR PUBLISHING TITLED 'DR. OBIORA OKONKWO' HAVE NOT BEEN PUBLISHED ELSEWHERE. THEY ARE MATERIALS GENERATED FROM FIRSTHAND. NO PREVIOUS PUBLICATION THEREFORE, THERE WONT BE ANY REFERENCES CITED. PLEASE ALLOW AS WRITTEN (by talk page stalker) Wikipedia requires citations. This website is not for publishing original material nor is it a webhost. Chris Troutman (talk) 09:45, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

December 2017

13:45:38, 4 December 2017 review of submission by Nlatoyas Nlatoyas (talk · contribs) Draft:Kai Lossgott (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Good day, I hope this message finds you well. We are currently working on improving the reference list, but will need direction on which sources were deemed problematic. Can you please identify the sources in question so that I can resolve problems? Thank you. Best, Claire (editor) You'll need to support the article primarily with references that Kai Lossgott did not produce themselves, which is the case at current. --TKK! bark with me! 14:49, 4 December 2017 (UTC) Draft:R v Lee You'll want to rewrite the lead there, I expect the draft will be easily accepted once the article is about the case rather than the pharmacist. Best, --joe deckertalk 16:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC) It's not my article, I found it untagged as a g13 eligble article and thought it might be good enough to pass so I tagged it for AFC. For some reason instead of using the article creator's UN it used mine. --TKK! bark with me! 16:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC) Submission Declined: Arduino UNO Hi Tikuko, I noticed that you deleted part of my article because I copied the content of it from arduino.cc. I am going to undo this soon. The website I copied this from is licensed under a CC-by-SA license. This gives me the right to copy from this website, so long as I give them credit for, which I did. It has been explicitly and verifiably has been released to the world under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license, so please check before deleting half an article like this. The references have been added by an administrator, Diannaa, and if you disagree with licenses, references, or copyrighting, please consider talking before deleting.L293D (talk) 03:33, 4 December 2017 (UTC) @L293D: I did check. At the bottom the page for that site, it states "© 2017 Arduino", and there is no evidence of the licensing that you're talking about on the site. --TKK! bark with me! 14:47, 4 December 2017 (UTC) Tikuko, here is the evidence: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/CopyrightNotice. One inch above "© 2017 Arduino", there is written: copyright notice. Here is the complete legal code of the license used. The license used is a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 Unported,that requires to give proper attribution, which I did.L293D (talk) 15:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC) Then restore it instead of trying to bicker with me. --TKK! bark with me! 16:04, 4 December 2017 (UTC) Thanks L293D (talk) 16:06, 4 December 2017 (UTC)