Recently Jimmy Wales has made the point that computer home assistants take much of their data from Wikipedia, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play Frosty the Snowman for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (Coptic?).
Headlines about data breaches are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is Gresham's law stated as "bad data drives out good". Wikipedia and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See Wikiquote on a misattribution to Bismarck for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making.
Wikipedia has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per Tim Berners-Lee. If the Knowledge Graph by Google exemplifies Heraclitean Web technology gaining authority, contra GIGO, Wikimedians still have a role in its critique. But not just with the teenage skill of detecting phoniness.
There is more to beating Gresham than exposing the factoid and urban myth, where WP:V does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to open access is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as CC-BY) standing for the actual license in major repositories. Detailed investigation shows that "everything flows" exacerbates the issue. But Wikidata can solve it.
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Systematic reviews are basic building blocks of evidence-based medicine, surveys of existing literature devoted typically to a definite question that aim to bring out scientific conclusions. They are principled in a way Wikipedians can appreciate, taking a critical view of their sources.
PRISMA flow diagram for a systematic review
Ben Goldacre in 2014 wrote (link below) "[...] : the "information architecture" of evidence based medicine (if you can tolerate such a phrase) is a chaotic, ad hoc, poorly connected ecosystem of legacy projects. In some respects the whole show is still run on paper, like it's the 19th century." Is there a Wikidatan in the house? Wouldn't some machine-readable content that is structured data help?
Most likely it would, but the arcana of systematic reviews and how they add value would still need formal handling. The PRISMA standard dates from 2009, with an update started in 2018. The concerns there include the corpus of papers used: how selected and filtered? Now that Wikidata has a 20.9 million item bibliography, one can at least pose questions. Each systematic review is a tagging opportunity for a bibliography. Could that tagging be reproduced by a query, in principle? Can it even be second-guessed by a query (i.e. simulated by a protocol which translates into SPARQL)? Homing in on the arcana, do the inclusion and filtering criteria translate into metadata? At some level they must, but are these metadata explicitly expressed in the articles themselves? The answer to that is surely "no" at this point, but can TDM find them? Again "no", right now. Automatic identification doesn't just happen.
Actually these questions lack originality. It should be noted though that WP:MEDRS, the reliable sources guideline used here for health information, hinges on the assumption that the usefully systematic reviews of biomedical literature can be recognised. Its nutshell summary, normally the part of a guideline with the highest density of common sense, allows literature reviews in general validity, but WP:MEDASSESS qualifies that indication heavily. Process wonkery about systematic reviews definitely has merit.
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The term Applications Programming Interface or API is 50 years old, and refers to a type of software library as well as the interface to its use. While a compiler is what you need to get high-level code executed by a mainframe, an API out in the cloud somewhere offers a chance to perform operations on a remote server. For example, the multifarious bots active on Wikipedia have owners who exploit the MediaWiki API.
APIs (called RESTful) that allow for the GET HTTP request are fundamental for what could colloquially be called "moving data around the Web"; from which Wikidata benefits 24/7. So the fact that the Wikidata SPARQL endpoint at query.wikidata.org has a RESTful API means that, in lay terms, Wikidata content can be GOT from it. The programming involved, besides the SPARQL language, could be in Python, younger by a few months than the Web.
Magic words, such as occur in fantasy stories, are wishful (rather than RESTful) solutions to gaining access. You may need to be a linguist to enter Ali Baba's cave or the western door of Moria (French in the case of "Open Sesame", in fact, and Sindarin being the respective languages). Talking to an API requires a bigger toolkit, which first means you have to recognise the tools in terms of what they can do. On the way to the wikt:impactful or polymathic modern handling of facts, one must perhaps take only tactful notice of tech's endemic problem with documentation, and absorb the insightful point that the code in APIs does articulate the customary procedures now in place on the cloud for getting information. As Owl explained to Winnie-the-Pooh, it tells you The Thing to Do.
Working With Wikibase From Go, Digital Flapjack blogpost 26 November 2018, Michael Dales, developer for ScienceSource using golang, with a software engineer's view on Wikibase and the MediaWiki API
Talk of cloud computing draws a veil over hardware, but also, less obviously but more importantly, obscures such intellectual distinction as matters most in its use. Wikidata begins to allow tasks to be undertaken that were out of easy reach. The facility should not be taken as the real point.
Coming in from another angle, the "executive decision" is more glamorous; but the "administrative decision" should be admired for its command of facts. Think of the attitudes ad fontes, so prevalent here on Wikipedia as "can you give me a source for that?", and being prepared to deal with complicated analyses into specified subcases. Impatience expressed as a disdain for such pedantry is quite understandable, but neither dirty data nor false dichotomies are at all good to have around.
Issue 13 and Issue 21, respectively on WP:MEDRS and systematic reviews, talk about biomedical literature and computing tasks that would be of higher quality if they could be made more "administrative". For example, it is desirable that the decisions involved be consistent, explicable, and reproducible by non-experts from specified inputs.
What gets clouded out is not impossibly hard to understand. You do need to put together the insights of functional programming, which is a doctrinaire and purist but clearcut approach, with the practicality of office software. Loopless computation can be conceived of as a seamless forward march of spreadsheet columns, each determined by the content of previous ones. Very well: to do a backward audit, when now we are talking about Wikidata, we rely on integrity of data and its scrupulous sourcing: and clearcut case analyses. The MEDRS example forces attention on purge attempts such as Beall's list.
Two dozen issues, and this may be the last, a valediction at least for a while.
It's time for a two-year summation of ContentMine projects involving TDM (text and data mining).
Wikidata and now Structured Data on Commons represent the overlap of Wikimedia with the Semantic Web. This common ground is helping to convert an engineering concept into a movement. TDM generally has little enough connection with the Semantic Web, being instead in the orbit of machine learning which is no respecter of the semantic. Don't break a taboo by asking bots "and what do you mean by that?"
The ScienceSource project innovates in TDM, by storing its text mining results in a Wikibase site. It strives for compliance of its fact mining, on drug treatments of diseases, with an automated form of the relevant Wikipedia referencing guideline MEDRS. Where WikiFactMine set up an API for reuse of its results, ScienceSource has a SPARQL query service, with look-and-feel exactly that of Wikidata's at query.wikidata.org. It also now has a custom front end, and its content can be federated, in other words used in data mashups: it is one of over 50 sites that can federate with Wikidata.
The human factor comes to bear through the front end, which combines a link to the HTML version of a paper, text mining results organised in drug and disease columns, and a SPARQL display of nearby drug and disease terms. Much software to develop and explain, so little time! Rather than telling the tale, Facto Post brings you ScienceSource links, starting from the how-to video, lower right.
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Placing bulleted "Art UK bio" templates before unbulleted onesedit
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In placing "Art UK bio" templates on articles, you are putting them at the top of the "External links" sections, even before unbulleted templates, which creates some distortion in formatting: a slightly greater distance between the first and second items in the rendered bulleted list than between those bulleted items grouped together, as well as pushing down the rendered unbulleted templates, which usually float to the right. This is more or less noticeable on the rendered page, depending on how many templates are involved. I have moved a couple of your templates down, at William Hogarth and Diego Velázquez. Could you place others that way yourself? Dhtwiki (talk) 23:41, 12 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Dhtwiki: Let me think how to filter in AWB for pages where this is the case, then I'll go back and fix them, and be more careful going forward. Thanks for flagging this. Jheald (talk) 23:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Sandstein: The template is useful on tracking pages, and heavily used on at least one set of pages. It is already disallowed from use in main space, by RfC. I'd appreciate you withdrawing the nomination. Jheald (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, how are you? I wanted to talk to you about our activity in sacred prostitution. I have to admit that, as admirable as it was your load of information about the current article and its particular opinions, I become overwhelmed by its sheer quantity and my unfamiliarity with the topic every time I try to integrate it into the current article. For this reason, I was wondering if you, as the author of the info and someone whose meticulousness and familiarity with the topic I can attest, could lend me a hand at this. I had thought we could work from this revision, which is light enough to integrate all our academic info without the mess of the current article. We could also recruit John B123 if it is not enough. I'll wait for your answer and thank you in advance. Creador de Mundos (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
May I have a written answer, my friend? I don't want to be grating, but this is a project whose end I would like to see soon. Creador de Mundos (talk) 21:06, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, I believe you are the creator of List of largest book publishers of the United Kingdom? I wondered if you still monitored this page and if you would be interested in updating it as it is quite out of date. Due to conflict of interest I cannot myself. Thanks very much Stephbook (talk) 13:53, 7 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
@Stephbook: Gosh, that has got out of date. I'd love to update it, but I'm up to my eyes at the moment with sources to align with wikidata, and a project with a major GLAM that I've got terribly behind with. So I just don't have time to put in any research on this (and it looks like The Bookseller is no longer making the numbers quite so readily available online). Also, I suppose there's a question of rules of engagement, as just which territories earnings should or should not be included from for each company, to compare like with like. But if data is readily available from a reliable source, I'd happily include it. Jheald (talk) 14:32, 7 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Jheald. I've been doing a bit of work on this and it could probably do with some review. See what you think. There's a discussion in talk already going. --The Huhsz (talk) 20:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
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The Barnstar of Diligence
This is for this. By your diligence and care you helped protect encyclopedic content. Thank you. The Huhsz (talk) 21:16, 17 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
@The Huhsz: Thanks :-) Though really it's you that deserves any barnstars, for the sustained amount of effort you have put in, that has transformed the article. Jheald (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
It's been a labour of love; I know a lot about the subject, there are loads of sources, and I am good at copying reference code from other articles. I even bought a second hand copy of the Crawford and Nairn source, which I've always fancied reading. In a way it's a shame that the article wasn't developed a bit better before Gray's death, but then he always said he wouldn't be fully appreciated until after his death. It's so often the case. As regards transforming the article, my writing isn't always that good and it's reassuring to think someone else is monitoring what I'm doing. Thanks again; it's been a pleasure. --The Huhsz (talk) 21:34, 17 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
And it should go without saying that if there is anything you would like me to look at, I would be happy to do so. --The Huhsz (talk) 00:26, 18 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, I'm doing a project which matches Wikimedia IDs and OSM relation IDs and recently I've run into some disagreement about which one to use: English unitary authority council (Q21561328) or unitary authority of England (Q1136601) for OSM links.
On Wikidata it seems quite clear to me that it's Q1136601 which has GSS and ISO codes, so since OSM relations have ISO and GSS codes they should be the ones matching. Since you've created one of the categories and seem to know the most about them, could you join in on the OSM discussion about them?
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=782647 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyperknot (talk • contribs) 14:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Hyperknot:unitary authority area in England (Q1136601) is for the authority as an administrative territorial entity. As you suggest, this is probably what you want to link to. unitary authority in England (Q21561328) is for the council as an entity providing services to the authority area. Each council may in turn have items for its legislative body and for its executive.
I am not really sure why we now have a different series of items for the council (ie service provider), and the administrative entity. That seems unnecessary to me. But seemingly somebody thinks it is a good idea. However, Q1136601, the item for the territorial entity, is I think the primary item here, and the one that you should be linking OSM data to, regarding the boundaries of that territory. Thanks for working on this, the OSM <-> Wikidata links are incredibly useful for us on the Wikidata side. Jheald (talk) 15:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Hyperknot: Now also posted on the OSM forum, though at the moment still awaiting moderation. Jheald (talk) 15:45, 9 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Jheald: Thanks and thanks for replying in OSM forums! The project is basically getting better and better, now 4868 regions with ISO 3166-1 or ISO 3166-2 codes have been processed, with 99.2% of them having the Wikidata <> OSM link.
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Do not reopen that hatted discussion, a discussion about renaming files and Wikipedia's reputation has zero bearing on discussing possible forks of the bot. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:24, 13 April 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Howdy! I know we have added lots of good content there. Any images of protein folding that you were able to find? Also, any charts -- e.g. growth in median scores at CASP. I have seen a few charts, but, if you know how to create them within Wiki, those would be a good adds. Ktin (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Ktin: Charts that would be nice to use would be similar to [1] (I think included in the DeepMind video), or [2] (I think shown in a presentation at the conference). But without reusable licences we can't upload either of them. Which is a shame, because the uplift in 2018 and the again in 2020, almost entirely due to AlphaFold, is spectacular. Unfortunately, I can't find the data to recreate them either.
It's getting on for 11.30 here, so I'm afraid I'm going to turn in. But thank you *so* much for your work on this article! It's just so frustrating if the rest of the community won't push it over the line. Jheald (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Jheald, Yup. I was thinking of chart #1 from above. Data for that should be publicly available though I have not gotten to searching / finding it. Ktin (talk) 23:53, 1 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
What do you want to emphasize here [3]? I understand that Molecular replacement requires an initial sufficiently good model for refinement (it is typically taken as a structure of another homologous protein). But this initial model should not be particularly good, something like 2-3 A rmsd might be OK. I know at least one case when a computational model was used as an initial model for crystallographic refinement. That was more than 20 years ago. Probably there are other cases. This is nothing extraordinary new. According to PowerPoint presentation you are using, "The model you sent me (from the leading group) worked for MR and we finally solved the structure by MR-SAD." Yes, sure. My very best wishes (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
@My very best wishes: Well, listen to the audio of the whole talk, including the actual presentations given by the 4 research teams. (The linked slides just give the moderator's part of the session. Slides are also available separately from each of the experimenters). They were impressed. These were rather better than even good prediction models have been. Secondly, as is clear from the CASP progress graph, it's been possible to get pretty good predictions for *some* proteins (where homology modelling is possible for a very long time. Predictions for proteins requiring threading haven't been in the same league. And predictions in CASP's "free modelling" category, where no apparent fold templates are available, have been way down. AF2 was producing predictions with unprecedented levels of accurate detail, right across the board. This is part of what we need to convey to our readers, if they are to grasp what AF2 has or has not achieved. Jheald (talk) 00:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
Sure, the people were impressed, and they should be (I realize there were no good homology or other models). But I simply think that saying this would be more neutral and appropriate. Yes, such models can be helpful for experimentalists. My very best wishes (talk) 00:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Hi @Jheald:, I've now re-added the death information to the Carol Gould (writer) with a death notice from The Times newspaper as a source. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 01:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
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Hi there, I'm currently working at the British Library and would love to get in touch about some historic uploads. Could you drop me an email if you have a moment? lucy dot hinnie at bl dot uk! Thanks EriedgenArc (talk) 15:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Grueslayer: I think you just have to put "Action-Adventure" into the "Negative categories" box, like this: [4]
This seems to bring down the number of hits from 49 to 14, so does appear to be doing something. But I don't use PetScan a huge amount, and always find it a bit of a new adventure, so you will need to check if this is doing what you want -- I'm not making any promises! Hope this helps, Jheald (talk) 18:03, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
That indeed helps a lot! Do you happen to know how I can integrate that into a URL? Thanks and kind regards, Grueslayer 18:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Grueslayer: There's a line on the PetScan page "Link to a pre-filled form for the query you just ran with and without auto-run" which lets you save a URL. If you look inside the url, it seems the addition of &negcats=Action-Adventure is what excludes category:Action-Adventure
Going to the PetScan 'Output' tab and changing the selection to eg tsv gives you a file rather than a web-page. If you're wanting to run the query from inside some automation, it looks like adding &format=tsv can also be used to specify this in the url, eg [5].
Other options include &format=json or csv or wiki or pagepile or kml or plain, eg [6] for wiki. HTH, Jheald (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2022 (UTC)Reply
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There is a new requested move discussion in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:06, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Since you recently participated in the Charles III requested move discussion, I thought you might like to know that there are two other discussions currently going on about other British monarch article titles here and here. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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