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Hurricane Able rainfall

So quick question, and I hope it's not too big to ask. The page on TC rainfall in the Southeast says Able 52 peaked at 6.11 inches in North Carolina, but the MWR says the NC peak was 6.33 inches. I'm wondering what the discrepancy is. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:59, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

That is an interesting question. There is a Fort Bragg Water Treatment Plant rainfall observation in the spreadsheet, but it shows 4.76". Maybe there was an unofficial observation sent along to wpc's predecessor center regarding the 6.33 inch report. If it turns out that the report is from the same site as the one I got data from NCDC, then the NCDC report would trump the real-time report, because it would mean the data was quality controlled. But the Able reference does not mention where on Fort Bragg this higher amount was mentioned, so I don't know. Nor would I know exactly where to find the information from that report, because it predates NHC as well as wpc. We have no reports on station from that far back. I could always keep a look out for the source at the NOAA Central Library the next time I go back (likely in February). They do hold old Weather Bureau records in their M section, but none of those records are in their searchable index online...only in their old card wooden catalog on yellowed cards. It is possible they (or the old Navy reports) might have more on Able, and where the rainfall report may have come from. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:06, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick explanation. The Fort Bragg reading is a lot higher than all others listed in MWR, so it would make sense if it was adjusted for quality control. I'm sure when re-analysis comes around, they'll address it, but until then I wouldn't want anyone to go to such lengths as having to look through a card catalog to find a relatively minor rainfall total. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:45, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

I have another rainfall question. The state maxima map says Nevada's rainiest storm was Olivia 82 with 3.52 inches, but Doreen 72 caused 4.14 inches in Nevada. I'm wondering what the discrepancy is, as I figured that'd be a good article to make for DYK purposes. Thanks! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

That's an oversight on my part. I can update the state map tomorrow. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletions

I deleted the talk page for the AVHRR because it said, and I quote:

"ridiculo".

And that's it. There were no previous edits to revert to.

So I got rid of it. Have a little faith in my good judgment, okay? DS (talk) 17:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm under no obligation to do any page assessments or to add assessment tags. I'm usually too busy dealing with massive backlogs of pages that have been created, of which 95% are good and 5% need to be deleted. And adding a spurious assessment tag would be worse than not having one at all, I should think. DS (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Satellite temperature measurements

Yes, the article is in better shape. While there is definitely a desire to have a discussion on satellite temperature measurements on climate change studies, it also seems important to describe the technology itself, and provide some history. The subarticle method works. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 06:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Your/my GA nomination

Just to let you know, I have put your GA nomination - Braer Storm of January 1993 on hold. You have seven days to address the comments. Cheers! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:52, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem. I was happy to do them instead of the usual storm articles ;) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm happy to pass the Braer storm. Just one minor thing (didn't feel like holding up the GAN over it), but I still have no idea whether the storm caused snowfall or not. That's the only thing. Otherwise, thanks for addressing my comments! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:14, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hah, thanks a lot for reviewing! My philosophy is that I try and review as many GAN's as I put up, so I have one more to do. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Yay, thanks a lot! I was wondering if there was any chance you could do me a favor. Is there any rainfall for Hurricane Carol (1953)? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Uhoh, good luck with that. No hurry with Carol. ;) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I seriously had no idea that even existed! You're darn right it's an interesting article. I love the coverage on older stuff like that that no longer exist. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, no problem! It's a low priority, compared to your brew-ha. If only editing Wikipedia was a way to get out of jury duty... ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Who says I didn't do both? They never called me into a courtroom, and they had computers in the back. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Hah, I think that sounds like a Wikipediaholic ;) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I was just curious, is there any chance of Hurricane King getting a rainfall map? I'm just curious, since Easy has one, and I figured/hoped the data would be there. I might be interested long-term in getting it to FA, so 1950 AHS is an FT. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there is. The previous plans were to create rainfall graphics for the HURDAT TCs and known TDs back to 1950, because of the alleged beginning of TC naming. With the naming potentially going back to 1947/1946, I'll likely need to go back to 1947. Any soon-to-be additions will be to constrained to 1953-1955, which covers the two Carols. Someone needs to find those pesky 1949 names though, if I'm going to cover the late 1940s. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Whoa, I didn't know the naming potentially went back to 1946. That's cool the rain will be going back that far when you get a chance. It's crazy you will almost have the entire recon era covered. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

The naming is known for 1947 and 1948, through the AWS documents. They're not yet known for 1946 and 1949, however. Check out the CLIQR database so you can see which is which. But please, don't reference it for the naming. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Yay, thanks about Carol. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

re: 1950 AHS

Hey, good call about the timeline, I always forget about those! As for the naming, I knew about them, but they didn't seem to be very official/consistent. I think the current wording in the article is fine, how it was "the first year in which tropical cyclones were given official names in the Atlantic basin". I know User:Jason Rees has been pursuing that topic recently, and I think he has another example or two of pre-1950 AHS naming. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:43, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

On the recommendation of Andrew, i have emailed to your work email account, some details that came my way recently regarding Atl naming pre 1950.Jason Rees (talk) 18:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've responded to you all. It doesn't surprise me that it hasn't been a big deal with HURDAT, yet. But HURDAT has only officially dealt with the years through 1930 so far, which could be why. Now, if either of you have access to a library with those publications, it could always be sourced that naming began in 1947, and then we could use the names within the 1947-1949 Atlantic wikipedia season articles. There was no organization known as NHC pre-existing the 1960's, which is part of the reason this reanalysis is so important. There are many rocks to look under along the way, which is why the process has taken 15 years, so far. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up about the numbering thing in the article, I removed that. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:26, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

State rainfall map

Hi Doc. The table for Florida in List of wettest tropical cyclones in the United States lists Easy as the wettest tropical cyclone for the state, but the state map says Georges was the wettest. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Will need to fix that when I get back to work. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

The map says it's up to 1962, but we have data from before then for several storms in several states, so it might be a good idea to push the first time threshold back? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I guess the version of wikipedia is fairly old. It will need to be updated with a somewhat more recent form, which is here. When I get back to work, I can push it back to 1956, which is how far back the spreadsheets go continuously. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

You could also push it to 2010, since it doesn't seem anything from last year will make that list... Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:50, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

That's a given. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 12:18, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

The graphic should be updated on the website now. If you want to update what's on wikipedia commons, go for it. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Uploaded the new image. Thegreatdr (talk) 16:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Did you know?

DYK for Weather ship

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Weather buoy

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Atmospheric model

Thanks for this contribution to Wikipedia Victuallers (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

1953 Atlantic hurricane season reversion

Fair enough. I was thinking that the statement was significant in that the month was a strange one to have a hurricane, but you're right; it isn't in this case. Anyway, my bad; sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BunBun002 (talk • contribs) 01:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Weather buoy

Hi again, I just wanted to explain about the character counting system for DYK nominations. DYK rules do not take into account the total byte count of the page, which is reflected in the page history (i.e. the page stood at 3,019 bytes before you started on January 27 and at 15,961 bytes when I reviewed it on January 31). Instead, we count characters of main text, not including subheads, charts, lists or references. Please see Rule A2. The special 2x expansion only applies to biographies of living persons which were previously unsourced and which now are sourced with references and doubled in text size (again, not including the references). Best, Yoninah (talk) 10:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

NWP

If we decide to send Numerical weather prediction to FAC, when would it be most convenient for you to do so? I'd rather not send it if you'll be gone for three weeks or something like that... Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 19:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

There are no upcoming work trips for some time due to the sudden rush to stem deficit spending within less than 1% of the federal government's budget, which apparently only started 2 1/4 years ago? =) Anyhow, sometime in the next few months, prior to early May. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:36, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Sweet. We should probably send it to FAC after the 1950 AHS is done, or maybe send Tropical cyclogenesis first (see my talk page for a reply, btw). Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 21:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

• And we now have {{Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Numerical weather prediction/archive1}}. :) Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 01:45, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

  What do you think about the request for image given in the FAC? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 18:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

  I had the same issue with a different reference, but here is a screenshot of the requested diagram. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:55, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Since the applications section was split off from the history section, it definitely has a… "historical" feel to it. We probably need a bit more detail on why NWP is important to those problems. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:30, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sweet. I'll try to do what I can until then. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 23:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• Parametrization request in the FAC... Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:51, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
• Does the picture for the sigma coordinates look all right to you? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
  • I noticed the image this morning, and it looks fine by me. It's how I imagined it. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
    • Sweet. By the way, do you happen to know why NCDC is down? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
      • NCDC is temporarily down for pre-planned maintenance - it should be back later today.Jason Rees (talk) 20:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
        • This happens a bit on weekends. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:07, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
• A month and a half later, it's finally done. :) I sort of want to order this to celebrate it… Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 18:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Sea surface temperature

Hi. I have completed the GA review for sea surface temperature. The article passed under most of the conditions. You can see the full review here. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 03:12, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I removed the GAN when I added the GA template. Isn't that what the reviewer is supposed to do or am I supposed to wait until finalization? ~AH1^(TCU) 03:26, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

It looked like it was accepted for GA already as it is listed on the talk page. The GA review is still in the system at Talk:Sea surface temperature/GA1. I believe it should be archived on the talk page if someone wants to post a link to it there. That way the GA nomination review is still accessible to people who want to see it. Inomyabcs (talk) 04:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

United States snowfall climatology

In view of United States rainfall climatology, your contributions, the request at Reference desk - Average snowfall per state, would you be so kind as to develop United States snowfall climatology. Thanks. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 15:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Atmospheric model

With the rather significant expansion, would it be a good idea to send it to DYK? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

If I 5x'ed the prose, sure. Right now, I think I've only 5x'ed the byte count. Could you check on that for me? When wikipedia upgraded its tools a while back, I lost my word counter. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:42, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

I reinstalled it for you. :) Make sure you clear your cache to see it. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:44, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

It's actually way over 5x in readable prose size. (2779 bytes to 17 kB, 6.26x). Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 20:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK has been submitted. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Should history of NWP be sent there too? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 01:43, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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I LOL'd at the copyvio notice from something that says "From Wikipedia". I readded the first operational forecasts to NWP, since I think it's important that the main article cover that. Hopefully that satisfies everyone's concerns... Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 22:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: 1953

Thanks again for the review, and totally understood about Florence ;) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Ginger

Wow, that would be amazing! The current pics are rather lackluster, and none showed any significant intensity or an unusually large eye. In fact, I was really surprised the NHC didn't have anything in their electronic wallet on storms in 1971. They have every other year from 1968 to 1983. Do you have any idea why? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:28, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

That looks great. Do you, by chance, have anything else from 1971? That's next on my seasonal list (as opposed to continuing with the 50's spree). --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Awesome, that's great news! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the barnstar! [1] I am currently trying to get all three basic cloud types up to GA status, and am considering making a good topic on "cirriform cloud genera", including cirrus cloud, cirrostratus cloud, and cirrocumulus cloud. Reaper Eternal (talk) 02:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Christine image for 1973 AHS article

Hm, that's bizarre.... I'm not sure what's going on there, I guess commons is still having ongoing issues with trans-wiki stuff. Sorry I couldn't be of much, if any, help there. Thanks for uploading all of those images though, they're much appreciated by everyone. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 03:05, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Re: Helen Review

Thanks for the review DR and for passing it :) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:53, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Cold-core low/GA1

Just to let you know, I've completed the review for Cold-core low. There are several quirks that need to be addressed before I can pass the article but all in all, it was a good read. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:26, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

weather numbers

• Please read my comment at FAC first, then see my sandbox. Tks. – Peacock.Lane 01:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Typhoon

Nice work - though i must say that the rainfall totals you found for Morakot are wrong. Per the WMO records department and the CWB of Taiwan. Regards Jason Rees (talk) 16:54, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Useful link

i saw this and thought it might benefit you with the NWP articles.Jason Rees (talk) 04:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Oceanic Climate

Hello Thegreatdr. I respect and appreciate your efforts to improve Oceanic Climate. I’m still a little confused as to why you’re electing to not list examples of cities with this climate. Not only does it conveniently link the page to cities with this climate, it gives readers a better feel as to what constitutes an Oceanic climate. Also, all of the other Koppen climate classification pages are listed in the same fashion. G. Capo (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

There's very little original research here (or for that matter all of the Koppen pages). Koppen's system has a specific set of guidelines as to what constitutes a certain climate and this can be applied to a city provided the city's weather data is accurate. Koppen's climate classification is based purely on math. It's not a conclusion from a set of apparent facts (i.e. the sky is blue), which would be OR. Also this [2], provides a relatively detailed map as to what city has what kind of climate. I like your new chart set-up, but I'm convinced that a reader would have a better understanding of what constitutes a certain climate if notable global cities are listed G. Capo (talk) 02:52, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tropical cyclone forecast model

For the SWIO (Reunion) - i think you will find the information you think you need if you take a look at the RSMC Reunion website under "About the RSMC" "Research" and the "Education" Section.

For Aus/SPAC (J/P/D/PNG/B/N/W) - i think you will find the information you have a dig through AMOJ Papers and BOMS FAQ. Also this may also be useful.Jason Rees (talk) 00:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

You're Welcome.Jason Rees (talk) 01:31, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

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Actually you bumped up two levels. Congratulations, and thank you for your many contributions to the Wikipedia! Herostratus (talk) 16:35, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

[3] Yeah, I feel dumb for saying that. Thanks for the catch. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 12:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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I'm sorry for the delay, I had to clone and replace a hard drive before I could get back on line. I've done some more reviewing of this nomination yesterday and this morning; and I regard the review as complete appart from certain minor corrective actions. Pyrotec (talk) 17:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Tropical cyclone forecast model/GA1

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Could you also revise and edit the Mediterranean climate, Semi-arid climate, Arid climate and Humid continental climate articles, like you did in the Oceanic climate and Humid subtropical climate articles?

Could you also revise and edit the Mediterranean climate, Semi-arid climate, Arid climate and Humid continental climate articles, like you did in the Oceanic climate and Humid subtropical climate articles? Your editions in the latter two articles are very good and to the point.

For instance in the other climate articles there is an endless and growing list of cities and also little towns, some of whom may not even have these particular climates and cover a large part of these articles and without any reference.

Thank you Saguamundi

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25 DYK Medal

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Why did you delete so much parts of pages about different climates?

Why? You deleted tons of cities and climate charts in most of the climate classification pages, what was wrong with these? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Someone35 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Clean-up of Koppen main article

Yes, and I am going to have to consider removing the city lists from there as well. Too many editors, especially Americans, adding in cities that have climates similar to what is already on the list. Removing these lists and adding a note should stop these silly disputes once and for all. –HXL's Roundtable and Record 00:07, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Thegreatdr. My name is Sanjay, and I'm a 1st-year PhD student working on a project aimed at improving the quality of scientific articles on Wikipedia by providing easier access to relevant published refereed articles. I found you on the list of Wikipedians with access to Web of Science and I noticed that you edited a variety of pages pertaining to Meteorology. If you are interested in lending your expertise and advice to this research effort, I have posted a set of questions on my talk page - I would greatly appreciate your taking the time to answer any or all of them. The answers will help inform the design of a tool which I believe will benefit the Wikipedia community. Thanks! Sanjaykairam (talk) 18:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

wpc vs. EC rainfall maps

Hello the Thegreatdr, I am coming to you with an issue brought up by Hurricanehink at the FAC for Hurricane Michael (2000). There is rainfall data available from both wpc and Environment Canada (EC). However, Hurricanehink said "There isn't consistency between the wpc map and the EC report, with regards to the peak Nova Scotia rainfall."; what he was wanting me to do was ask you why there is discrepancy between the two.--12george1 (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't know, since CHC (Canadian Hurricane Center) was the source of the info. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hi! I came across this request in the Graphic Lab archives and was wondering if an image like this is still needed for anything? If it is, it would be fairly simple to create. -MissMJ (talk) 04:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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Re: post

You know I always love the internal drama :) One thing I was always surprised about was how the NHC never/rarely used remnant low for the Atlantic. It seems like they always insisted on maintaining advisories until the storm was either extratropical or dissipated, quite unlike the EPAC. I really love how bold they were with Laura 08 and calling it post-tropical. Sometimes you need an unusual storm to change the game. I am a bit surprised that Allison as a 35+ kt storm didn't cause more issues. Was it Erin 07 and Laura 08 that convinced everyone the need for post-tropical? Given that the former was a 50 kt "remnant low"? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Doc. When I was updating List of Arizona hurricanes, I saw this reference for historical flood events in the Santa Cruz river basin. It includes information for some tropical cyclones that might come in handy for the rainfall climatology page… Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 09:21, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

TD

Hi do you know anything about the NHC using the letter A instead of L? - i recently found a few copies of the hurricane plan from the 80s, early 90s and they say NHC were meant to use the letter A when designating TDs. Regards.Jason Rees (talk) 18:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Thats what i thought thanks.Jason Rees (talk) 22:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

1987 PHS MWR

Hello Thegreatdr, I have some good news. I found monthly weather review for the 1987 Pacific hurricane season. The bad news is, it only has individual storm info on the systems that became hurricanes. However, it also includes a table listing all tropical cyclones, so then we can also add more info about the TDs. Here is the link: [4]--12george1 (talk) 03:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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State maxima

[5] - hey, I was wondering about this. You have the 1954 unnamed depression causing over 9 inches of rain, but that isn't listed as the peak storm for New Mexico. I just thought I'd let you know while I'm (hopefully) redoing the 1954 AHS page. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:13, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

On the .gif, that's understandable. Check out the years covered by that graphic. As the years push more into the past, the TD will suddenly appear. =) Thegreatdr (talk) 19:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I did. It says it's from 1950 to 2010, which is why I thought it'd include the 1954 depression ;) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops. =) Ok. It will be added soon. Thegreatdr (talk) 21:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It is fixed, and I added the NY change for Irene. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:57, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hiya DR. I was doing some research for the 1962 Atlantic hurricane season, and I came across this USGS article that indicated that this storm caused 16.7 inches of rain (page 18). However, you only list a peak of 14.61. I wasn't sure if the 16.7 figure was wrong or not, but I thought I'd bring it to the expert! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:24, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I hadn't seen this document before. By the way...one of the figures in that document (figure 3 on page 18) shows that Sarasota recorded 17.1" of rain. I'll check the spreadsheet when I get to work on Tuesday. It could be a question for the Southeast Regional Climate Center or the National Climatic Data Center if the Sarasota amount in the document disagrees with the spreadsheet. Either way, there look to be more observations within this document than originally supplied by NCDC which could be used to re-analyze the contours. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:30, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Cool, I'm glad I could help. Enjoy your long weekend! BTW, any thoughts on 93L? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:32, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like a subtropical cyclone, in the 1968-1984 sense. I had been dealing with it as a forecast problem between Sunday night and Wednesday night last week...when it looked like it would attain 40-45 knot maximum sustained winds. However, over the past 20 years, NHC looks for central convection to start an ST so it's not tropical-enough looking for them to start nowadays, if that makes sense. Maybe in another day or two. Or maybe it will suffer the fate of the May 2009 Gulf Gale and never be recognized by NHC. Time will tell. Thegreatdr (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Yea, I still think they dropped the ball on the 09 one. There looks to be a good amount of convection now over the system, so I personally don't see the reason for the wait :) But, I'm just impatient and want to get to the Greek alphabet! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:21, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Heh...

Thanks for the reminder. Nolelover ^{Talk·Contribs} 21:46, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

1906 Pensacola hurricane

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I'm wondering if the NOAA or other government agencies have has any specific location-by-location death totals for the late-September 1906 Pensacola hurricane. If you do, could you post the links on my talk page, or provide details? Thanks! HurricaneFan25 15:06, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

FYI

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Season infobox

Hiya. I was wondering if you could spare some food for thought. We're having a discussion on IRC about how we list the strongest storm in the season infobox. For modern seasons, it works pretty naturally having it listed by pressure, although there are cases that are unusual (such as Isidore in favor of Lili 02). At a certain point, it becomes more troublesome to list by pressure. For example, 1950 had a Category 5 hurricane, yet if we listed by pressure it would list a Category 3 storm in the infobox. Do you have any thoughts on this? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:45, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, that makes sense. So, would you think that our Infoboxes should list the storm with the strongest winds, regardless of the season? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:50, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. I also think the infobox should indicate the storm with the highest winds, not the lowest pressure. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Pressure for TS 1 in 1906

Jose Partagas's books say that at Havana, the first tropical storm of 1906's pressure was 29.59 inches (1002 mbar). Will this be added to the Atlantic hurricane database? Just wondering, thanks. HurricaneFan25 18:08, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

If it's not in HURDAT/ATCF as a central pressure, they must not believe it is a central pressure reading. I'd ask Chris Landsea at NHC about it. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:22, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Also, not trying to bother you, but is there any known minimum central pressure for Hurricane Cindy/1959? According to the 1959 MWR, a recon flight found a minimum pressure - not necessarily a minimum central pressure - of 997 mbar. Thanks. HurricaneFan25 14:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

As part of my reanalysis effort in computing ROCI/POCI for storms over the past 60-65 years, I do have central pressure entries for Cindy here. If you use the info within the article, and the info isn't already within HURDAT, reference the file as the CLIQR database and mention it is a recent reanalysis effort. In any event, it probably won't be in HURDAT for several more years, even if the information is accepted. That way, you should be okay wikipedia-wise. Thegreatdr (talk) 18:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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Any update on the surface map for Cindy? HurricaneFan25 | talk 17:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I tried uploading the near real-time hurricane map onto commons a couple days ago, but it wouldn't let me. I've never been denied an upload on that service before. I'll try again tonight Thegreatdr (talk) 21:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Actually, someone already uploaded one. HurricaneFan25 | talk 21:56, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm wondering if you know anything about this, or could put something about it in your wpc rainfall page for Cindy. The MWR/hurricane season of 1959 says that Cindy transitioned into a warm-core system on July 6, while tropical depressions are already warm-core systems (HURDAT says Cindy formed near 12:00 UTC on July 5). Can you explain whether it was an error in the MWR or HURDAT? HurricaneFan25 20:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

This does not contain the full track, and nor do any of the other /prenhc/ files. HurricaneFan25 19:35, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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Quick question. I'm trying (once again) to do something with the Hurricane Andrew article, and I noticed that the total you have for Louisiana is lower than what's mentioned in the TCR. I just wanted to make sure that was correct. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for that. I figured one of the project's most important articles shouldn't have any discrepancies. By the way, I liked how you included rainfall graphics for both October systems that were close to developing. Do you think there's a shot that both will be upgraded in post-analysis, or at least the one that hit eastern Florida? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Do you think they'd add two systems though? That seems really odd that they'd miss two storms (including the early September one). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:34, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

That makes sense. I can imagine in this highly polarized political environment that they're trying to just do their jobs and make things as simple as possible. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 05:04, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Perfect!! Now, when (if...) I FAC Andrew, I'll have an answer. Thanks a lot. I hope you enjoyed your turkey day! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:08, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Oy ve! This sounds like some sort of conspiracy. Is this the next Watergate?! Is this going to become Raingate? --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:52, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm honored then that I found a government discrepancy after almost twenty years, hah. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you think it'd be cleared up in like five months? That's probably around when Andrew will be going through FAC. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:20, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

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Subtropical Storm One of 1979 AHS was not a hurricane. Subtropical cyclones never are classified as hurricanes. Jeffrey Gu (talk) 04:05, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

There's no problem in it. Also, WP:DTTR. HurricaneFan25 13:07, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I know that if such an event happens again, it will be. That was part of the subtropical cyclone definition change made several years ago, which hasn't fully made the NHC website. It will be addressed in the hurricane reanalysis, which it gets to the 1960s and 1970s. Thegreatdr (talk) 01:14, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

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Please review article - climate oscillation

Hi. I've expanded the article I created after merging content from a previous article ("climate cycle") that I found covered the same subject and had been around for five years. Please take a look at the article and suggest room for improvement. Currently, it does require more references, but please point out any other issues in the current state. Thanks. ~AH1 ^(discuss!) 20:33, 25 December 2011 (UTC)