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Ways to improve Krampnitz

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A Nightmare on Face Time

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List of military clothing camouflage patterns

Hi, I see you've been active on this article lately. You'll see I've edited many other camouflage articles, and that I've put a note about the lack of (inline) references in the article on its talk page. The problem with the article is that most of the claims are not traceable to sources, either those at the end of the article, or to published books or websites. Which brings me to where you may be able to help: where did you get your information that you've added to the page? It would be good to document the claims made. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:49, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Far be it from me to dissuade you from your many fine contributions, but ... the list is for patterns, not uniforms; every entry should be cited on arrival or we'll be back where we were before (total listcruft); and I think we have a tigerstripe already, is ABU different, and if so it should be both cited and introduced as a named pattern, not a named uniform. Hope this is clear and ok with you! All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Logo of the Royal Danish Army.

Hi Skjoldbro you've used the File:Army Operational Command CoA.png as the Danish army's logo. AFAIK then it's the logo of the Danish Army Staff (hærstaben), while File:Hæren.png is the logo for the entire Danish army. Just as the Air Staff took over Tactical Air Command's logo Våbenskjolde fra Flyvevåbnet and Royal Danish Air Force has File:Royal Danish Air Force wings.svg as a logo for the entire Danish air force, there is IMHO a difference. I know that Facebook got "File:Army Operational Command CoA.png" for their profile, but according to Colonel Carl-Gustav Schöller's book "Hærens afdelingsmærker" ISBN: 87-88165-82-5, the latter was the badge of the General Staff since 1904, while the Badge of the Army was the logo of the entire army since 3rd July 1974. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Sergeant Major of the Army

Hi. I saw this on your sandbox. I would be interested in helping you create this article. Let me know if I can help in any way Gbawden (talk) 11:31, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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Micro-nation

Hi there…I have an account but I was curious if you could edit the micronation list so I can add the micronation I founded? It's called Perkle Republic and it was founded on January 18, 2017 (I forgot to log on when I made this. I have an account called Tepping) . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.134.134.126 (talk) 22:46, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

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PLA Air Force Ranks

Saw what you did on the naval and ground force ranks, any chance you can do the same for the Air Force? 173.160.33.62 (talk) 18:43, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Chief of the General Staff (Russia)

Hello, Skjoldbro. Unfortunately, I must stick to what I said before - it is not an improvement. I see no reason to place rank and name of an officeholder in the same column, total removal of "Notes" column certainly isn't helpful, while time spent in office and sort-table aren't necessary elements in this case. Also, I think its aesthetically wrong to have different styles of tables for pre-1991 and post-1991 Chiefs of the General Staff. With regards, Sundostund (talk) 16:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Brazilian Military Police ranks

You say that we do not need the Brazilian MP ranks displayed in the American Army Enlisted comparative chart. My reasoning behind including it is that on the Navy Enlisted comparative chart the US Navy ranks and USCG ranks have both been included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdjp1 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Can the same argument not then be used for the removal of the USCG from the comparative Navy ranks? Cdjp1 (talk 14:12, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

Danish heraldry

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Comparative_navy_officer_ranks_of_Europe

We're obviously at cross purposes with this subject so I've asked for a general opinion on what community thinks about how to handle countries without navies, air forces etc, You should get an automatic notification as well about conversation I've started here.

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Jordanian military ranks

Hi, great work on the page, the latest addition. I wanted to update the pictures of the badges from here, but I noticed the ones already present are recently made. I don't know if those or actual pictures are better, but the computer generated images have flaws. Example there's a missing letter in all of them. File:16. JLF-LG.svg the word to the right should be الجيش instead of لجيش.. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:48, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Georgian military ranks

Hey @Skjoldbro:

I noticed that you replaced my work in that article with yours. It is ok but as accuracy is really important for me regarding that matter there are some changes/issues I had already adressed in my work but now occur in your version. First of all geat job with creating the template and adding enlisted ranks. There are some visual inaccuracies however with OF-6 to OF-9. You use a model based on the old template of the Georgian Defense Ministry for those and they are not the ones applied nowdays. Those changes are not temporary, individual or unique but a result of uniform design competition and they are what is officialy worn today. Distinct look being the brighter, striped ( the shape I applied ) flat section and red gold frames, red frames not just around the stars, but also leaf and all gold framed edges in general as observed on various photos: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Commandant_of_the_U.S._Marine_Corps%2C_Gen._James_F._Amos_receives_an_award_at_Tbilisi%2C_Georgia%2C_Sept._4%2C_2014..JPG https://mod.gov.ge/p/chief-of-general-staff https://mod.gov.ge/w/general-staff-deputies

It would be very appreciated if you updated them according to how they are supposed to look like.

Other than that great work and best regards TheMightyGeneral (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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Iranian Template deletion

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Tajik Ranks

Hi my friend, I noticed that you reverted Tajik ranks changes. You have to know that Tajik military ranks is similar to Russian ranks. You can see samples of Tajik generals [1] and [2]. Please reconsider your changes.  MrInfo2012  Talk  13:25, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi.

The insignia of yours are the epaulettes of the Russian Armed Forces and do not correspond to the insignia of the Armed Forces of Tajikistan. Their buttons depict the emblem of Russia. I ask you to replace them with the insignia that I gave. Also, I ask you to restore the highest rank of the Armed Forces of Tajikistan - the general of the army, who wears the President as Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Tajikistan. --Omid Jeyhani (talk) 07:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Omid Jeyhani: The ranks have now been changed to ones without the Russian eagle on their button, but you will however notice that it is still the correct ranks as seen on File:Sherali Mirzo in St. Petersburg.jpg and this. I have not been able to find any form of pictures or other sources on the fact that the president wears any military insignia. Skjoldbro (talk) 10:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: The buttons of Tajik army shoulder straps depict a crown with stars from the emblem of Tajikistan. A photograph of the President of Tajikistan in the form of an General of the army can be viewed here.

Hi @Skjoldbro:! I have photos of Tajik ranks. How can I send them to you?--Omid Jeyhani (talk)

@Omid Jeyhani:, maybe just upload them to imgur or another photo-sharing website and send me the link, that would be easiest for everyone, I think. Skjoldbro (talk) 19:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro:look at this source, please. Omid Jeyhani (talk) 14:03, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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Colombian navy ranks

Hi Skjoldbro... I don't know much about military ranks, but on Template:Ranks and Insignia of Non NATO Navies/OR/Colombia, did you mean to add "Canada" as the equivalent NATO code, rather than "Colombia"? Richard3120 (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

About Operation Safari

Hello Skjoldbro. I saw on your homepage that you were working on an article for Operation Safari. I assume you mean the 1943 action in Denmark, yes? If so, I would be happy to offer any assistance which you would require. I did create an old draft on the subject a long time ago, which can be found here: User:Indy beetle/Operation Safari. It's probably of little use, though I think all the stats are sorted out. I also wrote an article a long time ago on the Battle of Isefjord that occurred during the operation. It was my first ever article (though published 2nd) so the quality is admittedly very low, but you may find some use in it. At any rate, good luck! -Indy beetle (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Irish ranks

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Sri Lankan Navy insignia

Hi @Skjoldbro:. Thanks for making the effort to add insignia for the Sri Lankan Navy Insignia template, but I'm afraid I'm somewhat confused as to why you readded (and in fact, initially added) insignia belonging to the Royal Omani Navy to the template. I removed it a while ago, yet I see you added it back with no explanation of why. Leaving aside the fact that the Omani Naval insignia shouldn't be on this template, the two Navies' insignia for the rank of Midshipman don't even look alike.

I'm strongly pro-removal of the image from that template, and I was hoping you had a good reason for putting the image back in. - ක - (talk) 15:44, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

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Operation Safari

G'day, thanks for your efforts with Draft:Operation Safari. I think it is ready now to be moved to the mainspace (Operation Safari), where it could be further developed as you desire. Please let me know if you are happy for it to be published, and I will move the page. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:45, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Hey @AustralianRupert: I think the page is ready to be publish. Thanks for all the help. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 12:12, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

No worries, I've moved it now. Thanks for your efforts. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 12:33, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Military ranks of Somalia

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I can't thank you enough for creating free images of the South African military ranks. You have no idea how I battled with free images! Once again thank you! Gbawden (talk) 11:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Royal Bulgarian Army rank insignia

Hey, I´ve just seen your addition of the Royal Bulgarian Army rank insignia within Comparative officer ranks of World War II. I´m no expert at all but I´m not sure about those. There are several plates and places, like e.g. over here or over here, in which the star arrangement is very different from the one you posted as a wide-spaced variant is used. Any insights about this? Thanks in advance ...GELongstreet (talk) 17:11, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Chief of Defence Australia

Fix the template formatting or I'll revert it again. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 13:02, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Nford24:, what exactly is the problem with the template? Skjoldbro (talk) 13:09, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

They're now three separate misaligned tables as opposed to before. It should be one table that is neat. we've had a similar table on the page in the past and it's been removed by consensus for the same reasons. Nford24 (PE121 Personnel Request Form) 13:19, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

@Nford24:, just for reference, can you point me to the talk page where the consensus has been reached? Plus, why must it "be one table that is neat"? Skjoldbro (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Changing subject: FYI, the postnominal template has a parameter |size=x%. Rather than wrapping the template inside the small template, you can change the size to a smaller percentage - if you prefer ... Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Comment - (I'll leave it to you to decide if any action is required): I'm not thrilled by the new infobox generating a title "Chief of Australian Defence Force". The position title, and the article name, are "Chief of the Defence Force". (And yes, the previous infobox was similarly inaccurate, so I have a similar gripe about it.) FWIW (Maybe not even 2c worth?) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:02, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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It was my mistake. I am trying to re-organize some rank insignia pictures, but I failed to edit them properly.

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Puzzled

I reformatted Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Air Forces/OF/Canada, Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Armies/OF/Canada‎ and ‎Template:Ranks and Insignia of NATO Navies/OF/Canada‎ to make them narrower because they were too wide for the page. You undid my edits with the comment "decreased size". I fail to see how you decreased the size - they are the same size, just different dimensions. And now they are once again too wide for the page. Could I bother you to explain what's going on? Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Pdfpdf:, the size of the template depends on the size of the PC screen, fx. it is not "too wide" on mine. If there aren't any build in code to lock the templates, they will automatically move around to fit the rest of the templates, just look at the Comparative navy officer ranks of the Commonwealth, otherwise they will just appear extremely tall. Futhermore, it is not impossible to just move the screen. Also even they are all neatly placed on top of each other, there still might "problems" with seeing the whole page, just look at Comparative army officer ranks of Europe. Skjoldbro (talk) 09:12, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to tell me. Also: What do you mean by "the size of the template"? What does "fx." mean?

it is not "too wide" on mine. - With all due respect, you are not the one complaining that it is too wide.

I looked at Comparative navy officer ranks of the Commonwealth - it's a mess. Clearly, it's not just Canada that needs to be made narrower. Brunei is the one most in need of attention

What is the definition of, (or more to the point, your definition of), "too tall"?

Futhermore, it is not impossible to just move the screen. - I don't understand what you mean.

Comparative army officer ranks of Europe looks neat and tidy. What is the problem?

I'm not trying to be difficult, but Comparative navy officer ranks of the Commonwealth looks an ugly mess on my screen. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:30, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Sources

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Iranian Armed Forces

Hello. Would you be interested to remodel the list of officeholders at Joint Staff of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army, as you already did at General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran? Cheers. --Sundostund (talk) 19:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

You did a great work, thank you! --Sundostund (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Also, please remodel List of senior officers of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. I assume you would agree with me the that current list looks quite unsatisfactory. --Sundostund (talk) 19:59, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Soviet and Czechoslovak Armed Forces

Also, please consider to remodel Minister of Defence (Soviet Union) as you did Chief of the General Staff (Russia), and Ministry of Defence (Czechoslovakia) as you did Chief of the General Staff (Czechoslovakia). I would remodel them myself, but I don't have enough time to do that at the moment. --Sundostund (talk) 19:51, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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Kingdom of Norway (1814) Why do you change the flag back to a version that is not historical accurate? The creator has too many elements based on fantasy. The flag you removed was based on the preserved flag that was used on Fredriksten festing. You can follow the link in the file description to Digitalt museum and see the picture of the real flag.

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South African armed forces

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Oberster SA-Führer

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Air Force ranks and insignia of India

Hello Skjoldbro... Can you give news/reference (here, not in the page) about change in Indian Air Force jacket uniform insignia? Where do you get the information about change? Thanks in advace. --AswiniKP (talk) 13:01, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey @AswiniKP:, it got if from these photos: 1, 2, 3 and 17 Uniforms Of The Indian Air Force That You Have To Earn. Regards Skjoldbro (talk) 13:31, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks for the improvements to the Sri Lanka Coast Guard rank insignia. Noticed you'd added them to the Navy page too though- any particular reason? - ක - (talk) 14:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

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Is it okay for me to change the layout of the template in the South Vietnamese military ranks and insignia page into the Template:Ranks and Insignia of Non NATO Armed Forces/OF/Blank template? This template is much easier to scan over and have a modern feel to it XD. Thank you and have a nice summer! Emperofvietilia ☎ ✎ 03:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

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Just added sources that fit what is said on the pahe

I just added sources that I could find that fit with what is talked about on the page to help expand it and they are placed the same way like the others sources when you say formatted they fit the same way as the other ones that were previously put by both of us @Skjoldbro:Jack90s15 (talk) 18:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jack90s15: I removed the sources for three reasons:

1) They are not formatted correctly, notice how all other source are written like {{sfn|author|year|page}} with the book itself in the bibliography.

2) You are removing tags for other sources such as "improve source" or "mention specific page", only to place new sources which also lack page numbers.

3) Half of the sources are unscientific, history books and articles from scientific journals are preferred for articles like this (with page numbers). The second half does not adequately address the subject. Such as the video of Goebbels, which in no way states that "With the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941, the government's positions changed. German propagandists wanted to present the war not as a purely German concern, but as a multi-national crusade against the so-called Jewish Bolshevism". Skjoldbro (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: Okay so if I get sources and they meet the criteria of what you told me then it will be okay to keep them as sources On the page?Jack90s15 (talk) 20:25, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jack90s15: Yes. Skjoldbro (talk) 20:47, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: ok so if I have a book put it like sfn|author|year|page then put the book name in the bibliography part of the page ?Jack90s15 (talk) 20:56, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jack90s15: Yes, just look at how all the other sources are done.Skjoldbro (talk) 20:58, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: ok I got it I will do it that and love the chart!you putJack90s15 (talk) 21:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

President of the Bundesrat (numbering)

Hi Skjoldbro,

before changing long standing article-fundamentals, please take your case to the given article's talk page, in order to reach a consensus with other contributers. I will willingly elaborate my objectives against your edit-proposal, if you start a debate there. Alektor89 (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@Alektor89: So in your mind

1. why shouldn't there be a {{notelist}} for the notes?
2. Which of the 4 kinds of numbers on the german page should be used? Because I'm using pers., since you wouldn't count the same person twice (Unless it is the President of the US). Would you really say that Bernhard Vogel is both the 28th and 40th man to serve or would you just say that he is the 24th who served twice? Skjoldbro (talk) 10:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

As a german and diligent observer of german politics and interested in german political history, I would in fact say that Bernhard Vogel is both the 28th and 40th President of the BR (although such countings of office-holders are not as "canonical" in Germany as in the US). But I see your point and would make the following proposal: We should make a list like the one on the german page, which uses both numbering-methods (office-holders and individuals) in seperate columns. If you give me a few days [or maybe weeks ;-)], I could make such a list (but with portraits), then we would have a good solution, I think. (I think the list should also look more like the ones in the articles President of Germany and Chancellor of Germany (1949-) and for example include the Vice Presidents in a "deputies column", although this will take a bit or research, but I am willing to do this).Alektor89 (talk) 21:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Hitler Youth

You seem to work quite a bit in the area of ranks and uniforms during the Nazi era. Recently, the article as to Ranks and uniforms of the HJ was deleted and made a re-direct to the Hitler Youth (HJ) article; it was consensus that the actual Ranks and Uniform part from the former article be merged/inserted into the HJ article. That has been done. If you have time, might you have a look and see if additional citing and ce is needed. Kierzek (talk) 17:54, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Also, on a related note - Uniforms and insignia of the Sturmabteilung is in need of RS citing, if you have it. Kierzek (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, for the above; the article Uniforms and insignia of the Schutzstaffel can also use some ce work and RS citing. Kierzek (talk) 00:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

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Hitler Youth

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"Improving" infoboxes

Will you please stop "improving" infoboxes by moving the parameters around on the editing page?! Moving the parameters around makes it extremely hard to see on the diff page what it is you've changed and what you haven't. The order of the parameters on the editing page makes absolutely no difference to the order on the page as rendered, so moving them around does nothing except inconvenience other editors, and possibly, mask changes you've made that might be disagreed with.

To make changes in a way that will make it easier for your fellow editors to tell what you've done, leave the parameters where they are and simply change what's in each parameters' field. Then, simply by looking at the diff page, a one-to-one comparison can be made, and your edits will be obvious. If you want to add parameters, fine, but please do not remove unused parameters unless you know for certain that the information that would go in those fields is not pertinent or is impossible to get. A field which is empty simply because we don't know the information can be possibly filled at a future time.

If you don't stop this practice, I shall have to bring it to the community's attention to determine if a WP:topic ban is necessary to force you to stop. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I have to concur with BMK on the above. Please consider the request carefully. Kierzek (talk) 21:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: I disagree with the placement having no difference, as I believe it to be more confusing for each page to have its own order to the same infobox. When editing a page you would expect elements in the infobox to have an equivalent placement in the coding, so they are easier to locate. I once saw an infobox where the image was at the bottom and the footnotes at the top, something that I would call a greater inconvenience, than having to become accustomed to the "Standard" layout. To illustrate this point I have made two Infoboxes with the exact same fields, one that is standard found at Template:Infobox officeholder, and one that is an example which could be found on any page. I think that we can all agree on which of these two is an inconvenience to any editor.

However, I can see that removal of certain fields and making complete change could help "mask changes". I will be more aware of that in the future. Skjoldbro (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Percy Toplis photo

Was just wondering if you could clear up a mystery about the photo you uploaded in May 2018 of Percy Toplis posing as an officer? It looks like fresh scan and can't fathom the source. I've not yet come across a reproduction as clean as this in any publication and have my doubts that it was ever 'owned' by the Nottingham Evening Post (as legend maintains). I've opened discussion about it on the Percy Toplis article after some initial confusion about who uploaded the image (the history comparison tool shows your image as an edit by Jack1956).

File talk:Percy-toplis.jpg

Also trying to obtain a higher resolution copy for a display. Would love to discuss via email if preferred. PixSrgy (talk) 09:25, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@PixSrgy: I found it on a website which has since been deleted. So I unfortunately won't be able to help you with a higher resolution or the original uploader. Sorry. Good luck with the display. Skjoldbro (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: Thanks for getting back. Much appreciated. Is there a slim chance you made a note who the website when you got permission to use it? PixSrgy (talk) 12:16, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@PixSrgy: I had a look, but unfortunately no. Sorry. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: Thanks all the same. PixSrgy (talk) 12:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Your colossal disimprovements

First of all I doubt that your changes were of bad faith, but you need to understand, which you perhaps already do, that there commonly is a stable group of editors behind every topic creating, maintaining and advancing articles related to that topic – in this case the topic is Austrian Politics and the group pretty much solely consists of me. There is a logic behind every of my edit and you may understand that I'm not extraordinarily happy when some random guy shows up and starts demolishing and reshuffling long-standing and perfectly fine versions. I fully welcome genuine contributions (such as content expansions or the addition of references), but edits that are major unconsensual changes which turn out to be disimprovements, emanating from an editor that never really worked on that topic before and whose driving force seems to be personal satisfaction are not so welcome.

To your edits on List of Chancellors of Austria:

1. There has been clear consensus not to use succession numbers on articles related to Austrian politics. See User:Kramler/Kurz is not the 25th chancellor, reinforced here.
2. Why would you superfluously split the tenure column in a took office column and a left office column, if you can have all information clear and simple in a single column?
3. Why would you make a completely redundant ref column?
4. Why would you write down Wilhelm Miklas 10 times instead of 1 time, although getting the same result both ways?

Viewers want to find the information they're searching for – delivered accessibly, simply and perhaps with an interesting design (pictures, colors...) which makes reading more attractive, and not inform of some giant repellent super plain and cold heap of uninteresting and completely superfluous information.

To your edits on President of Austria:

Although yes, you're right, there is a main article for the list of Presidents of Austria, there have been very few Presidents (excluding those who served in an acting capacity) and thus I wouldn't regard having a list directly on this article as excessive.

Regards, Colonestarrice (talk) 23:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

@Colonestarrice: You are correct in that assumption, mostly because it is important to always Assume good faith. I can also understand that you have put in a lot of work on those articles, but that does not make you the owner of the page per WP:OWNERSHIP. These edits were only to improved the pages which have less widely different table from all other pages.

Per your problems with the table:

1. The numbers have now been removed, by the way you should probably do something about the Statistics on the page then, since the Chancellors are numbered there.
2. Why wouldn't you? Even pages such as Vice-Chancellor of Austria and President of Austria does it, why should this one be any different?
3. I mean, the refs don't necessarily "need" to be in a separate column, but it does make it easier to find and edit them
4. Because he was the appointer for each one, and with sort-able tables this happens either way.

Lastly, take a look at how acting is done on the current table. For every single field there needs to be a | style="background-color: #E6E6AA" | . For this other table all you need to do is write | acting =y, which objectively easier. Also just looking at the coding, the standard table is much more easy to follow and edit than the current one.

To your edit on President of Austria: What is the point of having a separate page for the list of presidents, if they are still going to be on the other page? That is what I would qualify as completely redundant.Skjoldbro (talk) 10:46, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

National Socialist Flyers Corps

I note you have been making additions to this page. If you can add WP:RS citing as well, that would help as to this article. Thanks, Kierzek (talk) 13:48, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Meta colour templates

Hello Skjoldbro. You'll have seen I've reverted the changes you made to the colour templates for the Social Democrats and Venstre — these templates have to be hexadecimal colours, and when you changed the format, it meant they no longer worked. You're welcome to try and change the colour again, but it has to be a hexadecimal one. Cheers, Number 57 20:36, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

@Number 57: thanks for the help, it should be fixed now. Skjoldbro (talk) 20:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Franz Pfeffer von Salomon

Here is one you may wish to do an info box. Kierzek (talk) 15:46, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Christian Weber (SS general)

Here is another one you may wish to do an info box. Kierzek (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Re: Party colors

Hey. I'm actually not entirely sure if those exact hex colors are right, but I just went to the different parties Wikipedia articles and websites, and used the colors from there. A few changes were minor - like changing the Conservatives to a dark green to a light green, like the green used in their logos. But some of them were pretty significant to make the percentage bar templates more easily readable. Liberal Alliance were orange, which is the color used by the Christian Democrats (who were the same red as the Social Democrats), so that could create some confusion. I hope that answered your question. --Kaffe42 (talk) 10:55, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kaffe42:, Thanks for the response. Before you made the changes, I had a look at Venstre’s and the Social Democrats' logos and took colour directly from there, so their previous hex colors should be correct. My biggest "problem" is the Conservative's and Social Liberal Party's colours, as their colours doesn't look anything like the colour used in their logos. Did you use some other reference? Thanks Skjoldbro (talk) 11:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Just looked at the Conservative's color again and I actually don't know where I got that one from. That should definitely be changed back to the darker color, good catch. SF's color was changed because it's very similar to Enhedslisten and Social Democrats, so to avoid confusion on percentage bars, like on this page, I think it should be changed since they are right next to Enhedslisten. I guess I should have changed the color manually there though, and kept the old color for the template. Kaffe42 (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed it. That makes sense in a way, but should we not aim to have the most accurate colours on Wikipedia, even though it might end up confusing people a bit? Skjoldbro (talk) 11:36, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve List of Ministers of Social Affairs (Austria)

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Ways to improve List of Ministers of Defence (Spain)

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Ways to improve List of Ministers of Justice (Austria)

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Danish elections

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• On 1890 Danish Folketing election you amended the results table and added Nohlen & Stöver as being the source (previously the table did not have one). However, these results are not in the book (voting figures are only available for 1848 and then 1906 onwards).
• With regards to using "–" in tables, the symbol is used to mean N/A. Using it in examples when figures are missing is misleading as it suggests there were no votes cast.

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German forest service rank insignia

This is a new and excellent source for German forestry rank insignia 1929-1945: https://www.forestryofthethirdreich.eu/forestry-rank-insignia Good illustrations. Creuzbourg (talk) 21:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

On your recent revert...

Hi ! You recently reverted one of my edit. I'll undo that because : I don't understand your reasons, and in doing the revert, you butchered hours I put in the process.

1 - Your revert has altered and restored numerous false information (birth and death date, term start and term end).

2 - The Template:Officeholder table documentation discourages people from using it, as it offers no advantages offer a wikitable

3 - A wikitable offers the possibility of adding any information or format into it while an Officeholder table is completely rigid.

4 - The current Officeholder weighs considerably more than the new wikitable.

5 - It offers no page scale.

6 - It is completely unusable on a mobile device: it deforms the text inside, hides the pictures. The wikitable doesn't do that.

To go further: the birth and death dates bring absolutely nothing to the subject; they can easily be accessible if you go into the main articles.

You also stated:while keeping layout and reference changes That is false, as I said above, It restored numerous false information...

Good day. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 15:43, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien:

1. I attempted to keep all the changes that you made to the table, including time in office, for birthdays, they all come from their own pages, so don't see how that can be wrong.
2. Who says that? It is clearly much easier to find and change things as the values are clearly labeled.
3. There is just as much possibility to adding any information, makes it easier to locate elements needing to change (per above).
4. It is also very harder to discern the different elements in the new table.
5. Does it need page scaling?
6. So it seems, that shouldn't happen, that is my bad.

Who says that as well? And as stated, I attempted to keep all the changes you made, but some might have slipped.

P.S. I'll coincide – but next, wait until the discussion is finished before reverting something that has already been reverted, per WP:BRD. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:03, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to be harsh.

1 - If you look on them, some do not match at all

2 - As I said, who says that is the documentation of the template, with reasons

3 - Nope, it's completely impossible to add columns, rows and non standard information without changing the template itself. It offers a limited amount of parameters, and none on the format of the table.

4 - That's because it is the way I wrote the table; it accepts space and returns if someone needs it. It also reduces the size of the table (it cut it by almost 20k !)

5 - Yes, not everybody uses the same screen size as me, scaling is important. If there is no page scaling: the table will keep the same size and you'll need to scroll right and left. A scaled table avoids that.

6 - This template should not be used anywhere because of that.

I know but most of the changes I made have been so for a reason and I explained it in my ES...

It also says that is optional so... But I will

CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

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Chief of Staff of the French Air Force

Hello. I recently come to read the Chief of Staff of the French Air Force article and something actually striked me. Your last revision is in fact my own work from my sandbox !

Listen, I don't assume ownership of anything given we are on wikipedia, and this is public information.

But when someone go to my own sandbox, take a project I'm working on and I've put countless of hours in it, all of that without asking me first if that would be okay that my own work appears under your username, I think I have the right to be a little bit angry. I think you meant well, but I don't think this is a correct behaviour.

Next time, ask me. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 11:30, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

For the record, per WP:COPYWITHIN, you should have add in the summary something along the line of "Copied content from User:CocoricoPolynesien/sandbox". And you should have ask first too. That's unusual behavior for someone that has been on wikipedia for 8 years. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 12:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien: Sorry, I didn't think it was necessary to attribute sources, but I can see that I was wrong. Once again, sorry. Skjoldbro (talk) 13:15, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for adding time in office for north macedonia i added it in the past but someone deleted thank you Friendlyhistorian (talk) 17:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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On naming translation

Hi, I think the compromise you did on the article related to the French Armed Forces is pretty good ! Common English translation next to the literal one is the way to go imo.

For information, I created the article Major General of the Armed Forces (France) (although imcomplete), the deputy to the chief of defence staff.

Good day, CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 12:11, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

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Upload files

Please, can you upload these photos: List of people killed or wounded in the 20 July plot (1, 2, 3), Henning von Thadden (1, 2, 3), Robert Mohr (1, 2), Jakob Schmid (1, 2), Franz Josef Müller (1), Fabian von Schlabrendorff (1), Tim Dinsdale (1). Thank you. --95.244.89.129 09:43, 24 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.244.89.129 (talk)

Have you some time to help me? --79.54.22.77 10:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.54.22.77 (talk)

These files are most likely protected by copyright, and are therefore not eligible for being uploaded to Wikipedia. Skjoldbro (talk) 11:14, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

But can you upload those that aren't protected by copyright? --79.25.171.149 11:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.25.171.149 (talk)

On the article List of prime ministers of Saint Lucia

Please place the election column after name column also you the table uneditable in the visual editor please fix that respond to this message as soon as you can

@Friendlyhistorian: Sorry, I have been out of town for some time. I can see that you have changed it yourself, so that is fine. But why should Election be after name? Many are not elected or acting, meaning many listings show the second information as blank. I don't known anything about the visual editor, it is a standard Wikipedia template I am using, I have not made it. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response your tables are fine just election before dates most lists are like that also the problem with the templete you are using is that i can not edit on visual editor and i mostly use  the editor if i do change some of your edits i make the tables similiar to yours my edits are mostly minor i want to inform you so you don't think i am undoing your work or that i am engaging in an edit war

Changes in Template:Ranks and Insignia of Non NATO Armies/OF/Colombia

Hi Skjoldbro. First, sorry by my english, I do not a english native speaker (or writer).

I see that you undid the changes in Template:Ranks and Insignia of Non NATO Armies/OF/Colombia but I do not understand why do you did this. The new images have the size and others specifications according with the NTMD's (Normas técnicas del Ministerio de Defensa, in english: Technical standards of the defense ministry) and the RGE 4-20.1 (Reglamento de uniformes, insignias y distinciones del ejercito colombiano, in english: Regulation of uniforms, badges and distinctions of Colombian army), while, the old images have bad proportions, colors and very low details in coats of arms in the general stars.

I do not want edition's war, therefor, I wait for your reasons to undo the changes, but if your reasons are not logic, I will do the changes again.

-CarlosArturoAcosta (talk) 17:22, 16 January 2020 (UTC) (En español: CarlosArturoAcosta, discusión)

@CarlosArturoAcosta: Those specifications sound interesting, do you have a link for them? I might be able to understand it all, but number are universal. Firstly, while the proportions might be a bit off on the current ones, I feel like the ones you propose are also off, especially after the button at the top. I feel like it elongates them unnecessarily, and they are really an outlier at Comparative army officer ranks of the Americas. Secondly, when looking at photos such as File:Juan Pablo Rodríguez Barragán.png, the colour on your proposal seems to be off. Thirdly, the ranks shown at army.mil.co do not show great detail at their star coats of arms, therefore I saw no reason for that to play a major factor. Lastly, for you proposal the stars for Mayor and Teniente Coronel are widely different in size from Coronel and all other stars. I hope that answers your questions. I would like to hear your thoughts on this. Skjoldbro (talk) 09:13, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Skjoldbro, this is the link of RGE 4-20.1 and the Technical standards are a lot, for example, the uniform color is on NTMD-0007, the dimensions of the "shoulder holder" (Where the rank insignia is located, in Spanish: portapresilla) is on NTMD like NTMD-0140 or NTMD-0134, I choose a middle number of the long of men's "shoulder holder" to make the images. Here is a old list of standards but I do not know if the list is updated. It is so strange but the stars for "Mayor" and "Teniente Coronel" have littler that the "Coronel" (p. 308-309, RGE 4-20.1) (Why?, I do not understand them).

I thought in use other insignia like pages 312-321 of RGE 4-20.1 or put the insignia alone (like United States Army officer rank insignia) but I follow the style of the old images.

Maybe, we can find some changes like "shoulder holder" size, colors and details to make better the new images and make wikipedia better (Make Wikipedia Great Again,😆😆😆)

--CarlosArturoAcosta (talk) 18:20, 18 January 2020 (UTC) (En español: CarlosArturoAcosta, discusión)

@CarlosArturoAcosta: Sorry, for the late reply, I was out of town. Thanks for the sources I couldn't understand most of it, but the uniform regulations were interesting. I think that you should make changes since, you clearly known more about it than me. By looking at the uniform regulations, it looks like the stars for Mayor and Teniente Coronel are the same as Coronel, at least when it concerns cloth patches (page 313 & 319). I therefore think it should be the same for shoulders, at least so not to confuse readers. There are also small clippings of the uniform (e.g. page 107), I think these could be a good guideline to a more photo-realistic colour. As for the size of the "should holder", I see two possibilities. 1) Do like the US and only show insignia, this would also stop the first few things from being "issues". 2) Just cut it off after the button, since it is unnecessary for understanding the ranks. What do you think of this? Skjoldbro (talk) 12:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

List of presidents of Cuba

Hello, Skjoldbro. Would you be interested to improve table at List of presidents of Cuba, as you already did at List of heads of government of Cuba? Also, since you moved that page to its new name (the old one was List of prime ministers of Cuba), should List of presidents of Cuba be moved to List of heads of state of Cuba, for the sake of consistency? --Sundostund (talk) 02:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

You did it perfectly, man! Great! --Sundostund (talk) 14:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

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Listen my only demand are that the table is in that order:

 |     Name    |        |          |           Term of office             |
No.|Portrait|(Birth–Death)|Election|Took office|Left office|Time in office|

also i will delete the section in my talk page and rename it officeholder tables if there is further discussion because i can't differentiate your messages and Sundostund.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendlyhistorian (talk • contribs)

@Skjoldbro: I left my response at User talk:Friendlyhistorian#officeholder tables. He (again) removed messages from the discussion, so its not easy to understand the discussion without looking into the history of his talk page. --Sundostund (talk) 20:09, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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Ended work

Hello Skjoldbro,

I thought you might want to know I finished the work on the list of chiefs on:

• Chief of Staff of the French Army
• Chief of Staff of the French Navy
• Chief of Staff of the French Air Force

I'm still working on the Major General of the Defence Staff (that I renamed to match the Chief). I'm also working on the Military Governor of Lyon (in my sandbox), although this one is a little bit tricky for me.

Next on the list:

• Major General of the Army
• Major General of the Navy
• Major General of the Air Force
• Inspector General of the Army
• Inspector General of the Navy
• Inspector General of the Air Force

Eventually:

• Director General of the National Gendarmerie

I've also took the liberty to upload 90 degree-turned copies of the French ranks in the Army (OF-00 to OF-10) [3].

I also think you deserve an appology for the harshness of my words the first time we met.

Best regards, CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 17:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien: Looks good. Impressive work, mostly with the Chief of the Navy, being able to go that far back and finding 16 "new" chiefs! I will occasionally look at the pages to see if I can contribute.

Glad that you are able to use them for something; I might even use them myself.

And no problem, stuff like that happens when one gets invested in Wikipedia. Skjoldbro (talk) 13:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro: Thanks ! Although to be honest this is really not so difficult (if you understand French) because the administration keeps legal records of everything since 1789 ^^. Main problems arise with corrupted files, war archives (not always updated and a lot of stuff happen on the spot), or the period between 1948 and 1990 because for some reasons it isn't indexed (so you have to search files one by one to find what you are looking for...).

Good (if you can say so) news are, colonial administrations applied this system for every colony or occupied territory so similar stuff can be used, if someone is ever interested by it. CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 09:46, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Template

Thanks for fixing it, I generally work in trWiki, I didn't notice the problem, it's template in template, we have only one for this subject. --RenewableMan^MESSAGE 10:36, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

nato-codes for Bundespolizei?

Where do you get the NATO-codes for the Austrian Police. There is no source whatsoever. You cannot just use the number of stars. Its so wrong now! In the Austrian Army, an OR-1 is a conscripted recruit during the first six months; and you compare that with a police officer. All police officers are NCO-equivalents, but there are no official comparisons.Creuzbourg (talk) 14:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

@Creuzbourg: The enlisted ranks was a guesstimation, but the officers is based on their names, since they follow the same names as the army. I thought it better if both of them followed the code rather than only the officers. If you have a different way to present it, feel free to change it. Skjoldbro (talk) 14:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I won't do anything about the officers, but if I can't find a source for the lower ranks, I will rather remove the NATO-codes than let them stand.Creuzbourg (talk) 14:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

That is ok Skjoldbro (talk) 14:46, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

@Creuzbourg: I removed it myself, while keeping the format.Skjoldbro (talk) 15:06, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

OK. Hope you don't feel bad about it. Creuzbourg (talk) 17:01, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello

I was not trying to be misleading. With the source somebody else verified it, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht&diff=946877678&oldid=946836767 still getting the hang of Wikipedia. Kershaw is a good source I did put it back when some one tried to delete it. Do you have any tips you can give me about editing Wikipedia so my page can look like yours?Driverofknowledge (talk) 15:49, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

@Driverofknowledge: Yeah, I know, but going from the numbers at Eastern Front (World War II), there was never more than 4 million, so there at least needed to be some clarification on how there was 10 million. In any case, even if it was corrected, I don't think it would be appropriate for the lead, per MOS:LEAD. Might have a place under the War Crimes section. Do you mean my User Page? You are welcome to "take" the ones that you like from mine. Otherwise, look at Wikipedia:Userboxes for the general idea, you can also have a look for things here and the other related pages. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

For the numbers from Alex J. Kay and David Stahel. It was all the soldiers that were on the front at one time or another, I am going to make that clarification to the other pages it is on. The page already does a good job on the topic it looks like. Thanks for showing me the user boxes!Driverofknowledge (talk) 16:23, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

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		For scoring 109 points in the WikiProject Military history 2020 edit-a-thon March Madness, I am pleased to award you this token of appreciation from the Project. Thank you, and well done. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:47, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Ministries

Hello ! I saw you created its own page for the french minister of navy, should I do the same for the minister of war ?

I'm also finishing something on my sandbox2 before moving on to the list of naval ministers as you asked me.

Also, should we harmonize the names of all these ministries ? Like Ministry of War, of Air, of Navy or Armed Forces, or someting more like the Air, or the Armed Forces ? Either way is fine for me (I prefer without the though), but I want to be sure. Having, say, a Ministry of War or a Ministry of Foreign Affairs but having a Ministry of the Interior is rather unsettling ! Is there an established consensus on it ?

Be safe in these times ! CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 08:43, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@CocoricoPolynesien: Hey, I actually didn't make the list, just moved things around a bit. As for the page; there can be some advantages for it. With its own page, there is more space on the Ministry's page for information concerning the ministry, likewise will there be space on the ministers' page for information directly related to it. A separate page also allows for Template:Infobox official post, which I personally like to use. I don't think there are any rules for it, so I think it is up to you whether you want to move the list or not. Concerning the, looking at native English pages we have the US Secretary of: War, the Navy and the Air Force. However, the British Secretary of Air has neither "Force" nor "the". This points towards there being some kind of language rule without knowing the specific rule. From this, I would assume there needs to be the, in-front of some of them. You be safe too! Skjoldbro (talk) 12:00, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Alright ! I think it will be a good thing to separate in the future, and use the infobox you suggested with the last one in office.

Didn't think to look at these actually haha, that's a good point so I will follow it. Yeah I figured there was a sort of unwritten rule. So thank you for pointing it out ! CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 12:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

About Sri Lanka Army ranks

@Skjoldbro:, please see this and consider whether your created Sri Lanka Army rank insignias are right or wrong. I would request you to see the uniforms of Sri Lanka Police also. CodNav (talk) 04:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@CodNav:, maybe you should have written this message before nominating 12 pages for deletion, so there could be a proper discussion. But in any case, you will see that this is also one of the ways the ranks can look by these pictures: 1 2 3 4 5. I expect you to rescind your deletion requests. Skjoldbro (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro:, the insignias you made are right but please change background colors. CodNav (talk) 07:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@CodNav: What colour? I just proved the colours are correct too. Skjoldbro (talk) 07:50, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro:, you have made color which is very similar to Sri Lanka Police personnel's uniform, please view it very well by google searching, there are differences between the army uniform's color and police uniform colors of Sri Lanka. CodNav (talk) 08:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@CodNav: It is not my fault the colour is similar, that is the way the army uniforms look like. Skjoldbro (talk) 08:19, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro:, you are mistaking again, Sri Lanka army uniform's color is very different from Sri Lanka Police; I can say Sri Lanka Army's uniform is somewhat similar to Pakistan Army's uniform. CodNav (talk) 08:48, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@CodNav: I don't understand how you can say that, when I have showed multiple pictures which show the colour is correct. Again look at these 1 2 3 4 5. So PLEASE stop saying it is wrong, when there is photographic evidence that the Army indeed uses the colour. Skjoldbro (talk) 08:52, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@Skjoldbro:, you are misrepresenting the Sri Lanka Army uniform's color by showing some general's pictures but the generals are not wearing that colored uniforms which were made by you. CodNav (talk) 08:55, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Fantastic!

		The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
		Belated appreciation for this (File:Emblem_of_the_Government_Army_(Bohemia_and_Moravia).svg) Chetsford (talk) 03:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

SA colours

Thank you for adding colours. But, is Carmine (second place, Feldherrnhalle) right ? Seems identical with "dark brown" - ? --129.187.244.19 (talk) 11:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello from Russian Wikipedia

Hello colleague from Russian Wikipedia. May I ask you to draw a Shoulder mark sign of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the President of the Republic of Azerbaijan ? In the photo, he has an eight-pointed star. -- Dgeise (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Also there is no shoulder mark of the Shoulder mark sign of the Prosecutor General of the Soviet Union -- Dgeise (talk) 08:27, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

@Dgeise: Hey, I have tried to create the Shoulder mark sign of the Prosecutor General of the Soviet Union. In regards to the Azerbaijani insignia try talking to the creator of those images MrInfo2012. Skjoldbro (talk) 13:09, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

• Thank. There are no buttonholes for the general ambassador of the USSR and Russia. Can you draw them without patterns? [4] -- Dgeise (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello colleague from I ask you to draw a good List of Prime Ministers of Vietnam 2409:4052:995:380B:0:0:2341:28A1 (talk) 14:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

A cookie for your help

Thanks for going round and cleaning up the Cadet rank tables for UK Cadet groups. Cdjp1 (talk) 17:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Horst Wessel

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Horst Wessel; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

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Nazi Party]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Nazi Party; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

• You templated me for edit warring on this article when I had 2 reverts, then went to the article and made your third revert. That's what is called hypocrisy. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:51, 14 June 2020 (UTC)