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Proposed deletion of List of tallest buildings in woking

 

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Nomination of List of tallest buildings in Woking for deletion

 

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Constructive editing.

Can I suggest you have a chat with your friend about the AfD debate. The way they are editing at the moment is not helpful. It will undermine your case and ultimately get them banned. No one wants that.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 19:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The Centrium, Woking

 

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Editing existing articles

Just to follow up the comment I made on the AfD page, here's another example of the kind of work I think you should look for. While looking for refs to the tallest buildings in Surrey, I came upon the page List of tallest buildings and structures in Croydon, which is where I got the figure of four taller buildings in Croydon. But on looking again I realised that several of the 'under construction' entries had completion estimates that have already passed. So I looked at the page for Altitude 25, and that was also written in the future tense saying the building was under construction. Doing a quick google search showed that the building was definitely complete and indeed flats are on sale, so the article is obviously out of date. So I decided to edit it to say it was complete, and changed a lot of the phrases from future to past tense. I also found a reliable source to show it has been completed, so I could include a citation to support my edits (browse through the edit history of the page to see the before and after). This was maybe 30 mins work, clearly improves wikipedia, and is unlikely to be in any way controvercial. Off the back of this I then updated the Croydon list page as well. I think this is the sort of project you should look to be doing at the moment. You can do some good work, really make some useful and visible changes, but not have to argue and fight to get in new pages. Starting new articles is tough, and probably best left till you have more experience of how things hang together. Looking at that same list of buildings in Croydon, the other three under construction are all supposed to have been finished by now, so potentially they need updating as well. I had a quick google search for the Vocational Tower, but couldn't find anything definite saying it was completed, so without refs to cite I've left it as is. But as you have an interest in this area you might be more successful than I was. Citations don't need to be website, although those are easier to find. Take a look here for info on the kind of refs you need to be using. There are also two more lower buildings on that list which could be investigated, I've not looked into those at all. I think that sort of project will be a lot easier for you to work with, and will teach you about wikipedia without getting into conflict. I'd be happy to try and point you in the right direction as well, I've got a watch on your talk page so if you put any questions or comments on here I'll see them and try to help (the AfD debate isn't the place for this sort of thing).--ThePaintedOne (talk) 10:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of When the Moon Rises for deletion

 

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Proposed deletion of The Centrium, Woking

 

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Nomination of The Centrium, Woking for deletion

 

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Block

 
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Pbl1998 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

I have been accused of Sockpuppetry. By this I mean I have been accused of being a sockpuppet of Willrocks10-which I most certainly am not. I would like to be unblocked because I am totally innocent in this. It is my account and thats been taken away from me for something I most certainly didn't do. Please, Please take this into consideration.Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 14:34, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Not only have you been abusing multiple accounts, you have done so in the most offensive way: using multiple accounts in an attempt to feign consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Woking. --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:03, 28 December 2010 (UTC)


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{{unblock| reason = I have to say, while there is no love lost between Willrocks10 and myself, I'm not convinced that the right decision has been made with regards pbl1998. Wokingrocks was definitely a sock, and a very unsubtle one at that (it was me who reported that to SPI). But Willrocks10 and pbl1998 have argued and edit warred with each other over these articles, see for example the BAT/b.a.t back and forth on Export house. diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402178188 pbl says bat diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686199 willrocks says B.A.T diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=prev&oldid=402686780 pbl says bat again diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686922 WR B.A.T diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853671 pbl bat diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853815 WR B.A.T diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854828 pbl bat diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854923 WR B.A.T diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402855027 pbl bat diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=403384839 WR B.A.T There are other examples elsewhere, e.g. reverting each others comments and making personal attacks in the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of tallest buildings in Woking|AfD for tallest buildings in Woking]]. So for pbl to be a sock would imply a high level of sophistication from Willrocks10 in creating a plausible false persona, and to have done so prior to any of the edit controversey arising. This is of course possible, but given his otherwise almost total ignorance of wikipeida policy and convention, plus the very obvious way the Wokingrocks sock was created and used, I find it hard to beleive. If Willrocks was that knowledgable and sophisticated in gaming Wikipedia, they wouldn't have ploughed so hard into the rules and consensus in a way that was obviously not going to work if you have any knowledge of wikipedia. I think that they are real world friends, who decided in the real world to collaborate on wikipedia editing. I also think they are likely at school together (probably in Woking), so the times when they could edit could be similar (lunch break, etc) and they could be using a common IP, e.g. a school library. As for Jargonia, their only contribution was to oppose Willrocks in AfD, so it makes no sense for them to be a sock. More likely this is a third student who saw over thier shoulder what they were doing and jumped on to give them a hard time. I find that a lot more plausible than the sock explanation. I'm not sorry to see Willrocks10 blocked, thier contributions have been disruptive and often uncivil, PBL1998 also has a lot to learn about wikipedia, but hasn't been as obnoxious as Willrocks and I really don't think is a sock. I don't know any of them in real life, and PBL hasn't asked me to put in this unblock request on thier behalf, I've just been following all this and think the wrong call has been made about this account being a sock.--[[User:ThePaintedOne|ThePaintedOne]] ([[User talk:ThePaintedOne|talk]]) 10:02, 29 December 2010 (UTC)}}

  • Generally, an unblock request should only be made by the blocked user, especially since you have indicated they did not ask you to do this. You are of course free to assist them either here or by email in formulating a request of their own. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:49, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

PBL, if you want to try for another unblock, you need to provide evidence of behaviour which demonstrates you aren't the same people. Just making an appeal without evidence or solid argument isn't going to get anywhere. I think the diffs I quoted above would do the trick, but its up to you to put that together into an appeal. Assuming you aren't Willrocks10 than is. All the best. --ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:31, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

 
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Pbl1998 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Yes I will admit I know Willrocks10 and I have been saying to him his posts have been rude, like the one he sent to Arriva436. I also know Jargonia-he is as innocent as I am. As you can i had been arguing with him on a page before. Here is the evidence:

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402178188 pbl says bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686199 willrocks says B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=prev&oldid=402686780 pbl says bat again

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686922 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853671 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853815 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854828 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854923 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402855027 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=403384839 WR B.A.T

This is our most common quarrel. Anyway we can identify Willrocks10 is the persons, you can probably guess their name, main account. I have had pbl1998 for longer than he's had his 'main' account-I would say that is another reason. I am 100% innocent. Please, Please unblock me.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 11:32, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Decline reason:

If that's the case, would you care to explain how two checkusers, independent of one another, have previously linked you to all those other accounts and how all these accounts that are connected to you turned up to vote in the same discussion? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)


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Request reason:

Hi, To start of with, I want to make sure you know this, I've been the one accused of being a sockpuppet not creating sockpuppets. Awnsering the question above-Me and Wilrocks10 were doing this page together. Wokingrocks I agree is a sockpuppet, at least I think, and Jargonia I know aswell-He is not a Sockpuppet. I did not realise he was who he was until quite late on in the discussion. I am 100% independent from Willrocks, I do not back him on everything as you can see by this evidence:-diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402178188 pbl says bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686199 willrocks says B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=prev&oldid=402686780 pbl says bat again

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686922 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853671 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853815 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854828 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854923 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402855027 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=403384839 WR B.A.T

I am starting to get really annoyed with this. I am innocent. I have been draged in to all this and I haven't done anything wrong.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 20:14, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You admit to have abused multiple accounts, namely, at least one sockpuppet: Wokingrocks. Since you do not provide convincing assurances that this will not reoccur, and also because a sample of your contributions has shown them to be of so poor a quality as to be broadly useless, if not disruptive, you remain blocked.  Sandstein  20:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC)


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A note for the reviewing admin. It was me who originally reported Willrocks10 to SPI for the blatant use of a sockpuppet with the user account Wokingrocks. However, I think a mistake has been made with PBL1998 (and Jargonia for that matter, not that they are contesting their block). What we have here are three schoolkids who live in Woking, two of whom have collaborated in real life to edit Woking articles on Wikipedia together. This is why they have edited the same articles and voted together in AfD, as they collaborated to create the articles being deleted. The third (Jargonia) is not a friend of thiers and thier only contribution to wikipedia has been to vote against Willrocks10 in AfD (making it improbable for them to be a sock). All three are at the same school together and using common IT facilities at that school, hence the comon IP addresses. I've been watching most of the articles they edit for the last month or so, and from that it is very apparent that PBL and Willrocks are seperate people, e.g. the example of edit warring shown above. Willrocks has also shown a great lack of knowledge about wikipedia policy and procedure in nearly all his editing, for PBL to be a genuine sock would indicate a quite sophisticated attempt to game the system, e.g. fake edit warring and fake arguments with himself, which I find highly unlikely given all his other behaviour. In fact Wokingrocks, the sock I reported, was much more what I would expect, being completely obvious in behaviour and not in any way subtle, hence it was blocked per WP:DUCK. It's also worth noting that PBL was editing for some time before the Willrocks account came into existence. If you review the edit history rather than just checkuser, I really think it's clear they are not the same person.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Block review

 
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Pbl1998 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Hi,

I have had a chat to my friend and he has admitted that Wokingrocks was a Sockpuppet. I have not abused multiple accounts that was my friend. Please understand that that was not me-It was my friend. If anyone should be blocked it should not be me. I also have someone backing me with vital evidence that I'm not a sockpuppet and are different people. Also, I will make better contribution to Wikipedia as time go's by. I hope you understand this. '

A note for the reviewing admin. It was me who originally reported Willrocks10 to SPI for the blatant use of a sockpuppet with the user account Wokingrocks. However, I think a mistake has been made with PBL1998 (and Jargonia for that matter, not that they are contesting their block). What we have here are three schoolkids who live in Woking, two of whom have collaborated in real life to edit Woking articles on Wikipedia together. This is why they have edited the same articles and voted together in AfD, as they collaborated to create the articles being deleted. The third (Jargonia) is not a friend of thiers and thier only contribution to wikipedia has been to vote against Willrocks10 in AfD (making it improbable for them to be a sock). All three are at the same school together and using common IT facilities at that school, hence the comon IP addresses. I've been watching most of the articles they edit for the last month or so, and from that it is very apparent that PBL and Willrocks are seperate people, e.g. the example of edit warring shown above. Willrocks has also shown a great lack of knowledge about wikipedia policy and procedure in nearly all his editing, for PBL to be a genuine sock would indicate a quite sophisticated attempt to game the system, e.g. fake edit warring and fake arguments with himself, which I find highly unlikely given all his other behaviour. In fact Wokingrocks, the sock I reported, was much more what I would expect, being completely obvious in behaviour and not in any way subtle, hence it was blocked per WP:DUCK. It's also worth noting that PBL was editing for some time before the Willrocks account came into existence. If you review the edit history rather than just checkuser, I really think it's clear they are not the same person.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

This is some infomation that is, to be honest, pretty true. I also have some evidence to show that we have been quarreling on pages for a bit. It is below:- diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402178188 pbl says bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686199 willrocks says B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=prev&oldid=402686780 pbl says bat again

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402686922 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853671 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402853815 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854828 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402854923 WR B.A.T

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=402855027 pbl bat

diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Export_House&diff=next&oldid=403384839 WR B.A.T

This is some evidence that also, I hope, backs me and my case. I have NOT abused multiple accounts, that, like I've said before, is Willrocks. I am innocent. I can't say I won't do it again because I haven't done anything wrong. I do not break the rules. I am just an innocent party wanting to edit and contribute to Wikipedia again. It's so frustrating!!!!!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 13:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Accept reason:

Following a discussion with several other admins, we've decided to unblock your account. Please keep your edits topical, neutral, and to our standards. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 03:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Further editing

After a fair bit of lobbying on my part your block has been reversed, as part of which I agreed to keep an eye on your future edits and offer some mentoring and advice. As my reputation is now involved, I would appreciate if you could try to stay out of trouble. Moving forward, please feel free to ask me any questions you have, I'll be happy to try and assist and help improve your contributions to wikipedia. The same offer goes out to Willrocks10, but dependent on that would be him being willing to listen to consensus and try to follow policy, which at the moment he most definitely doesn't.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

A great deal of thanks go out to you for helping me get unblocked. Thank You. Also, Thank You to HelloAnnyong for unblocking me. I know I got into trouble but I did not do anything wrong. I will not break the rules though. I don't do things like that. IIt's good Wilrocks10 is behaving himself now!!!!! I'll say that to him when I see him next! Thank You for your help.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 16:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, first piece of advice. Having just been exonerated as a sock, jumping into the edit war that Willrocks is undertaking on Christmas is not the smartest move you could make, as it's exactly the kind of thing a sock would do. To be honest, I'd stay well away from that one, he's once again opposing existing consensus on the page (look at the previous discussions on the talk page) and if he carries on while ignoring the other editors, it's likely to go south again. You really don't want to appear on the admins radar again any time soon.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 20:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Yeah-I'll stay out of that for a bit. I've been using my new found tool-The Random Article one. I've pressed it once today and edited James Alger Fee!!!!! He's probably sutible for me because he died on my birthday!!! Fate!! I've also put a bit on about Joanna Yeates and Ecuador. I've also done some other minor edits!!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 20:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I wanted to let you know that I've reverted your edit to the James Alger Fee page on the basis of poor quality. It doesn't tell readers more about him than they already know from the article. To make constructive edits, you need to add new information into the article that you found in the book in which he is mentioned. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 20:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

First off, random article is unlikely to be a good way for you to proceed. Try to find a subject you have knowledge of. The articles you made for the stuff in Woking weren't bad, they just wern't notable. But popping into a random article and doing a google search is an unlikely way to make good additions. Instead try to find improve tags on subjects you know about and help to fix those problems. e.g. if there is a citation missing, go try and find it rather than adding in whole new material.

Secondly, when someone reverts an edit you have made, don't just jump in and revert them back again. That is edit warring and will get you into trouble very quickly. Specifically, there is a wikipedia policy called the three revert rule, which say you must not make the same revert more than three times in 24 hours, ignoring that is a quick way to get blocked. Both you and Carl have already exceeded that, so stay well away now. It also really hacks off other editors and will rapidly create a general consensus against you as an editor. You've already seen that happen to Willrocks and you don't want to go there. This kind of thing is exactly why he gets up so many people's nose and to date you've mostly avoided that.

If you have added something and it's been reverted, go to the talk page of the article and post asking why. You can then engage in a debate with the other editors on the page about why you think it should be in, and why they don't. Listen to the points made and go along with the consensus. The biggest lesson you (and Willrocks) need to learn about wikipedia is to listen to other editors more, most of them have vastly more experience on here than you, and you should try to learn from them rather than fighting them all the time. From a purely practical point of view, you don't know the policies and procedures well enough to argue effectively. Trying to do so is just going to get you blocked.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 22:46, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Do you reckon I'm going to get blocked.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 22:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Right now it's technically possible as you've already broken WP:3RR on that page. I think that would be harsh, as you obviously didn't know about the rule, but it would also be correct as you are editing in a disruptive manner and not listening to others. However, I think it unlikely, quite appart from anything else, Carl has also broken 3RR so personally I'd call it a wash. But DONT DO IT AGAIN! By which I don't mean don't edit wikipedia, but if you make an edit and it gets reverted, leave it alone and go to the talk page to find out why. Or drop a note on my talk page and I'll take a look and point you in the right direction. Your enthusiasm is to be commended, but enthusiasm without the knowledge to apply it effectively is wasted. As I recommended way back on the AfD, start slower with wikipedia until you find your way around. Charging around like a bull in a chinashop is not going to work.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 22:58, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

You are being a great help. You have my greatest respect.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:01, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Another thing, have you noticed that when other editors are making posts like this, some parts are wikilinked? e.g. in my longer post above I wikilinked edit warring. Those links will take you directly to the policies or guidelines the other editors is suggesting you are breaking. Every time you see one, go read it and try to understand why they think you are breaking that rule. Or conversely to see if they are incorrect, e.g. Carl wrongly described your posts as vandalism, which they aren't. Vandalism is stuff like page blanking or obviously offensive or graffiti posts, which this isn't. That doesn't mean it should stay, but the wrong policy is being quoted. Whenever you get into any dispute on wikipedia, you will always go a lot further if you can quote policy to back up your point of view. --ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:05, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Yes I do. If you can someone's undone my revisions of Fon Pelser. Check that out if you want.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

January 2011

  Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:07, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi, May you explain what is wrong with that edit. It is not unconstructive. Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 21:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

What did you not understand about what I wrote above? Listing the books that a a person appears in is not helpful. Read an article from a real encyclopedia, and write in that style. One of the last things we need on WP is for each article to have a list of books that the subject is mentioned in. Just write down the information that your book says about Fee, and reference it to the book. That's how you write a WP article. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:11, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Cease adding that contribution to the page. You have not been here long enough, and your English is too poor, to judge a good edit from a poor one. When experienced editors try to explain to you what you're doing wrong, don't be tendentious, or you'll get yourself blocked again. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Ok, Bare with me please.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 21:14, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm trying to. Is there anything you haven't understood about what I've told you here? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm going to put it up again-But look for the reference please. If your not happy with it just tell me.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 21:16, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

If you put up that same text again, I will take it down. There is no useful information there. How do you not understand this? Do you understand why your edit is a poor one? carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:19, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm going to leave it for now. I will be back-With better infomation aswell. I do find your comments quite rude though.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 21:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

(Copied here from my talk page to keep the conversation in one place)

PaintedOne, He clearly does not respond to instruction. I'm unclear about why you lobbied on his behalf. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 21:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I lobbied on his behalf because he was incorrectly indef blocked as a sock in an SPI I instigated, which was wrong. His editing history is not great and he has a lot to learn, but it's hardly normal practice to indef block new editors making common new editor mistakes. We were all new once. As a point of order, what he is adding is not vandalism, he is adding in material in good faith. I agree with you that it's not of sufficient quality to be included, you're right to undo it, and his repeated reversions is tendentious, which I will speak to him about, but lets also try to not bite the newcomers. --ThePaintedOne (talk) 22:35, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
In my defence, I did not at first revert it as vandalism, just as a poor edit. I clearly explained on this page why I reverted it. Once he started undoing my edits, then I started to consider it vandalism. I explained what was wrong, and asked if he understood. I can't see how that is BITE-y. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 22:52, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
I know, hence I raised it more as a 'point of order' for his clarrity than anything else. I think his main crime here is the tendentious editing, not the quality of the original edit, so it's more practical to focus on that. I think there is hope for PBL, he has enthusiasm and is capable of listening, he just needs to slow down a bit!--ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I'm going to stay out of this for obvious reasons.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 22:54, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Fons Pelser

Because the information was unreferenced; please include a reliable source whenever you add information. Thanks and regards, GiantSnowman 23:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

What it says on the tin, you didn't provide a reference as to where you got that information from. Have a look at the reliable sources policy to see the kind of ref you need to provide. Personally I would have put in a citation request tag rather than a revert, as the person concerned is dead (standards for citations are much stricter for living people to avoid possible legal issues). But an undo is not unreasonable if the info added was questionable or unlikely to ever be referenced (I have no idea about this particular person though). The info you added was fairly specific, where did you get it from?--ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:20, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I got the infomation from the Ajax Football Club Website.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:22, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a URL link? GiantSnowman 23:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Yeah i can get one-It's in Dutch though!!!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:27, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

That's fine, we can translate! GiantSnowman 23:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

This is the link: http://leden.ajax.nl/web/show/id=63450

I translated it fairly easily!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:31, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Woo hoo, collaborative editing in action (*does a happy dance*). I think I may go to bed now.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Yep, perfect, I've translated and added relevant information to the article. Good work everyone! GiantSnowman 23:39, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Woo Hoo x2

pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 23:42, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

The Warburton edit was duplicate information and de-linking; the Joop Pelser information was trivia. Thanks and regards, GiantSnowman 14:54, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Your recent edits to Fons Pelser are contrary to the manual of style and include (again!) unreferenced information. That is why I reverted. Regards, GiantSnowman 13:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Linking

Small point, I've noticed a few times that you're overdoing the wikilinks in some places. e.g. you wikilinked the word 'playing' in 'playing football' or 'birdstop' to Bird. You only need to add links to subjects that a reader might reasonably want to follow through for clarity or further research. To look at the examples above, someone reading an article on a footballer isn't going to need to be taken to a definition of the word 'playing'. In a similar vein, there is no use when talking about a place called 'birdstop' to link it to the article on birds, as there is no real relevence. WP:LINK describes this in some details.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 23:56, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

I must admit I do a bit. I'll try to cut down!!!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 00:00, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Seeing how many people have looked at a page

Hi,

I was wondering if anybody knew wheather or not you could see, or see how many, people have viewed a certain page. This counting for a 'mark' once you've been on a Wikipedia page. For example I went onto the Wikipedia Homepage once-Than again, and again, and again. That wouldn't be four it would be one. It would be a bit different on some pages. Could we do that? I don't think we can, but it's worth asking!

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 17:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Try searching help for stuff like this. However, having just searched for 'page hits' in there it came back with this FAQ entry.--ThePaintedOne (talk) 18:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

If you click on History on any page, you can find numbers of page views, contributors by number of edits, number of people watching the page, and other statistics. Look for "External tools: Revision history statistics · Contributors · Revision history search · Number of watchers · Page view statistics" above the listing of each page revision, and click on "Page view statistics" to see a chart of how many people have viewed the page on any day in any given month - and you can change the month displayed. Hope this helps. Tvoz/talk 09:25, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 18:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

References

It's good to see that you're getting the hang of references and citations, but you'll find it a lot easier if you use inline citations, rather than manually adding and numbering things at the bottom of the page. Take a look here to find out how to use the ref tags, which will also help you figure out why some of your recent edit to ref tags broke the article. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(footnotes) --ThePaintedOne (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


Take a look here for instructions on how to do this. Talk:Export House#Citations--ThePaintedOne (talk) 13:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Glenwood Park, Atlanta

(1) It's not important whether or not a dentist lives in this neighborhood; (2) any assertion, even this one, needs to be supported by reliable independent sources. Your own knowledge isn't enough. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

If you would please look at the 2nd references you will find that it says there is a dentist on the site. This is notable. This is expanding a page-A sentence.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 20:55, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Overlinking

I've removed a few of the links you put in the Sutton Green, Surrey and Mayford articles. I don't think you can have looked at the destinations of Mayfair, tees and greens, as these deal with completely different subjects than the ones you intended. It would be easiest not to overlink, as discussed earlier. I've also been hacking away at capital letters, changing "the Village is mainly centred around the Roundabout in the middle of the village" to "the village is mainly centred around the roundabout in the middle of the village". Now I look at it, that sentence seems a bit repetitive! Also remember the difference between "its" (belonging to it) and "it's" (it is). Happy editing! - Ttwaring (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Userpage

Hi,

There's some features I like on my user page but I want it to look good. Can somebody help please!!!

Thanks, pbl1998

Southampton Castle

Hi! Thanks for the interest in the castle. Ref the latest addition on the archaeology, you'll need to give a reference/source for it however. Hchc2009 (talk) 10:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Ok - what I've done is put the reference into the right format. When you're citing a web page, you'll need to use a reference tag in the paragraph of the main text, and then format the link in a similar way as I've done with the last edit to the castle article. If you need any help with this in other articles, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page and I'll be happy to help.
As an aside, when you're adding the edit summary, some people may find phrases like "NOT FINISHED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" a little extreme and not necessarily entirely helpful. As an example, your last edit summary could have said "adding new material on 2001 excavation", perhaps? Just a thought. Hchc2009 (talk) 11:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi,

Yeah, I understand.

Thanks, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 11:15, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I've left a note on the main talk page, but you'll need to be careful about the paraphrasing of copyright material. There's some guidance on one of the help pages that might be useful to you. I can see that you're keen to help improve the article, and please don't be discouraged. I remain very happy to help out in any way I can. Hchc2009 (talk) 14:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Bonython

Please read WP:RED and WP:MOSDAB. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:28, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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Painshill Park

I just reverted your edits to this page, because I have no idea why you made them.

When formatting, adding extra lines below a section is not advised because the effect is different on screens of different proportions. If your screen is of wide but shallow format, then most older articles that have been formatted on narrower screens will look rather cluttered. The solution is to reduce the width of your viewing page, rather than viewing in full-screen.

Alternately, if the article suffers badly from clutter, you can add a Break.

Amandajm (talk) 04:14, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Also, since you have been around for quite a while, it's time that you started using Edit summary like other serious editors. Amandajm (talk) 04:17, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Military History introduction

Napoleonic Task Force

Hi,

The listing of yourself as "re-founder" of the Napoleonic Task force has been opposed and reverted for good reason. MilHist project is a long-standing collaborative project, and as such we do not have leaders, founders, etc. Only coordinators, who, as indicated, coordinate the project for a fixed term by nomination process, but do not found or lead anything. All discussions regarding task force activity should be centralised on the Milhist pages, where they can be centrally monitored and archived, and not through a regular usertalk page. We would appreciate if you would discuss your plans through the available channels at MilHist rather than adopt a non-existent title, and draw attention to an inappropriate page, otherwise this complicates matters as to who manages what and the project loses cohesion. Thank you. Ma®©usBritish[chat] 04:31, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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Re: WP Surrey

Hi,

Yep, I am happy to help with improving the articles in the WikiProject. I not been very active on WP for a little while due to me being super busy and this may continue for a little while longer, but I'll try and contribute when I can!

Thanks GlanisTalk 15:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm also willing to help, if there is an article you fancy collaborating on then just put it on the project page/talk & we can discuss what needs doing and how to go about it. --Mrmatiko (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks ever so much. Also, if there is any part of Surrey that you are particulary strong at please do you best to improve them. This would be a great help. Personally, as it is the srticle I've put the most effort into, I think we should start with trying to get Woking to a Featured Article Status.

Thanks again for helping, pbl1998--Pbl1998 (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: WP Surrey

Hi,

Yep, I am happy to help with improving the articles in the WikiProject. I not been very active all of the time WP for a little while due to me being very busy certain evenings and less so some evenings this may continue for a little while longer, but I'll try and contribute when I can! Adam37 (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Me too but I am quite busy so may not be a huge contributor Abtract (talk) 16:37, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:SURREY

Hello, am willing in principle, haven't been active for a while but will do what I can. Unfortunately, I'm very busy getting distracted and procrastinating on Facebook trying to write a novel, or two, or three... not quite sure at the moment! --Vox Humana 8' 03:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

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Achieve

Hi PBL, do you think you may be able to archive my talk page?

Thanks- Willrocks10 (talk) 18:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, of course.

-)

pbl1998Pbl1998 (talk) 19:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! :) Willrocks10 (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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Problem!

Hi PBL

I need some help because this user User:Charlesdrakew is messing around with wikiproject Woking and being quite rude to me!

Thanks,

Willrocks10 (talk) 13:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, of course

pbl1998Pbl1998 (talk) 18:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

CharlesdrakeW has now started messing around with this page on Wikiproject Surrey: Wikipedia:WikiProject Surrey/Participants.

Willrocks10 (talk) 10:29, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Guys (Mostly directed to Willrocks10), I know you'll probably take this the wrong way, but please don't. All that Charles is doing is helping to bring both the Surrey and Woking projects up to scratch. One of the important things about Wikipedia is that it is open and free to be edited by anyone. Whilst you may not agree with their opinion you should discuss it first before reverting their edits - FYI Willrocks10 you have technically violated the Three revert rule and could technically be banned! The reason that Charles is performing these edits particularly to the Woking project is because the whole thing was written in a very childish manner, and was not in keeping with the Wikipedia tone and expectations. It is also an important point to note that no user ever "owns" anything on Wikipedia, it is released and anyone may edit it freely so expect your edits to be changed and if you don't agree discuss it on either the article or user talk page before reverting it. I hope this is clear, if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page, or ask another of the more experienced editors in the project. Thanks, GlanisTalk 16:24, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Charles

Exactly! I don't get it either! He is always rude and forceful and always gets away with it. On a few of the articles I created, he was deleting references so that he could have grounds for deletion, just because he seems to hate buses!  Adam Mugliston  Talk  21:29, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Again: Exactly! Just deletes everything he can to do with buses! You would not believe the number of arguments we had and how many times I just lost it with him... I don't understand why people don't stick to what they enjoy doing/writing about and not get mixed in with something they don't understand!  Adam Mugliston  Talk  21:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the invites. I'll take a look, but the only times I've been in Surrey was a) passing on my way to Hampshire on the M3 b) on my way back from holiday 6 days ago, c) At a family meet in Reigate, which was about 3 hours, so I don't know much about Surrey, but I might be able to help with buses.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  21:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Well, I just joined the Woking one! I also remembered my great aunt lives in Byfleet.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  22:25, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Yes, near Oyster Lane in Byfleet. My pleasure  . I'm logging off for tonight, talk tomorrow.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  22:28, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Morning! I swear Charles is stalking me. Look at my talk page, he left a caution message. He is stalking my contribs for about 3 years now and I really hate that. What do you think I should do?  Adam Mugliston  Talk  10:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
I tried WP:HOUND. And now Stuart.Jamieson is getting involved. Them two have always been together against me and buses and you know what the funny things is? Stuart.Jamieson works with buses as his job. Now how does that work?  Adam Mugliston  Talk  10:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Well I did try WP:HOUND, look at what I put on his talkpage. I'm all for it but where do we go to with that?  Adam Mugliston  Talk  10:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
By the way, I expanded the Bus section of Woking.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  11:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I've seen those. So who/where do we go to talk about his hounding?  Adam Mugliston  Talk  11:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Well I've already e-mailed Worm, who knows about mine and Charles' past. Any other admins you'd like to get involved, go ahead, just tell me who.  Adam Mugliston  Talk  11:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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I think it is still too short. Let me sort it out- Willrocks10 (talk) 14:00, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for the barnstar and the Wikipedia:WikiProject Woking Bronze Award, really unexpected and genuinely appreciated, many thanks. Pjposullivan (talk) 21:21, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I was thinking about adding to Woking article by uploading a sort of symbol or logo for Woking - like this from chivalricheraldry.co.uk, what do you think? Will it be worth it? Do you think there may be copyright violations? It could be used for Wikiproject Woking template. Thank you again for everything, all the very best, Pjposullivan (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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WikiProject Military history coordinator election

Greetings from WikiProject Military history! As a member of the project, you are invited to take part in our annual project coordinator election. If you wish to cast a vote, please do so on the election page by 23:59 (UTC) on 29 September. Yours, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXV, October 2015

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXVI, November 2015

 
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ArbCom elections are now open!

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You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Nominations for the Military history WikiProject historian and newcomer of the year awards now open!

On behalf of the Military history WikiProject's Coordinators, we would like to extend an invitation to nominate deserving editors for the 2015 Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards. The nomination period will run from 7 December to 23:59 13 December, with the election phase running from 14 December to 23:59 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 05:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXVII, December 2015

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXIX, February 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXX, March 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXI, April 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXII, May–June 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIII, July 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIV, August 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXV, September 2016

 
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Military history WikiProject coordinator election

Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVI, October 2016

 
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The Bugle: Issue CXXVII, November 2016

 
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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Pbl1998. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXXVIII, December 2016

 
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