User talk:Liftarn/Archive 2

6teen.ca Image Copyrights

Thanks a ton for correcting those licenses... I was unsure of which license to use so I chose the one I did based on what I knew about it. Your tags, though, obviously make much more sense. Thanks again for your help! :) --Matt0401 18:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:Discworld-ankh-morpork-amoswolfe.png

I currently do not have a version of this file in SVG. The software I used to create the file cannot output in SVG, but I have recently downloaded and installed the lastest version of OpenOffice which can. It is my intention (given time) to re-upload SVG versions of all vector-based files I have created.

An example can be found here:

• Image:Discworld-unseen-university-amoswolfe.png - PNG version first uploaded
• Image:Discworld-unseen-university-amoswolfe.svg - SVG version re-uploaded

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 12:18, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! // Liftarn

Image

Just do what you want with the picture. I just don't like it when the image of the artist is the same (or similar) as a picture of an album cover. Tcatron565 12:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree images

To list an image as possibly unfree, you need to add {{PUI}} (or {{PUIunfree}} or {{PUIdisputed}}) to the image page and also manually list the image at the bottom of WP:PUI. They are not automatically listed and will not get picked up otherwise. Stifle (talk) 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Possible Unfree images

CentralAvenueCornell.jpg

I have already been through this before. C'Mon. I emailed the freaking maker of those picture and he agreed to and I then I forwarded his email to Wikipedia. This is the ticket number::: #: 2006061810007652 --Cornell010 22:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, but Image:CentralAvenueCornell.jpg says nothing about it so there is no way I could tell. // Liftarn

Possibly unfree Image:2711 small.jpg

Hi, I think I fixed it. Thank you . Sosomk 14:29, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that would work. // Liftarn

Re: Possibly unfree Image:Eiri.gif

How I am supposed to add information that it should be deleted? The author, Maki Murakami, obviously has her art and manga all over the internet, and there's no copyright saying that it can't be. I'm just saying, so you can add that on, if it helps. Brittany 20:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC) PS: I honestly don't think that there's enough copyright tags to cover ALL subjects of pictures.

Image:Eiri.gif has no information in what way Maki Murakami have released the rights to that picture. Lack of a copyright message does not say it's free for anyone to take. What we need is something ssying that we are allowed to use that picture. // Liftarn

Apple II images needing deletion

There are several Apple II-related images that need deletion. They all lack proper source information, and they are all tagged as orphans, as they have been replaced by me with free-use alternatives from the Wikimedia Commons; thus has made the other images redundant.

I am not an admin, So I cannot delete the images myself, otherwise I would.

The ones needing deletion are: Image:Apple IIe middle age.jpg, Image:AppleIIc2.jpg, Image:Apple IIc.jpg, Image:Apple IIGS.jpg, Image:The Apple II.jpg.

Hope you can help me out with getting these deleted.

— Wackymacs 08:50, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I think they are all listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images so eventually some admin will delete them. // Liftarn

Yeah they are listed there, I voted delete for all of them. Are you not an admin? — Wackymacs 09:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

No, just very energetic (sometimes). // Liftarn

Ah OK. I contacted User:Carnildo about deleting them, because he's the main admin I know about that enforces the image policy here a lot. — Wackymacs 09:20, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Good. // Liftarn

Adding the timestamp

Hi, thanks for adding so many possible copyvios to WP:PUI! When you sign your name, could you please include the timestamp? It makes sorting the images by date much easier. Just type ~~~~ and your name and the date will be added automatically. If you'd like to customize your signature, you can do so under my preferences. Thanks! User:Angr 09:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll try to remeber it, but the date is given anyway so it shouldn't be a major problem. // Liftarn

Fitz hall image

Thankyou for your advice on the Fitz hall image. The image has been removed and i am searching for an alternative Olzone 10:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Regarding image:Goldfish in bowl.jpg picture.

Thank you. I have now changed the copyright. (I think I put down the wrong one when I uploaded the image. QuizQuick 13:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Still no good. // Liftarn

• So is there no way I can still use the image? :(  QuizQuick  14:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You could claim fair use, but it shouldn't be that hard to find a simmilar picture that is free to use. Have you checked commons:Carassius auratus? // Liftarn

• Nevermind, I found a better picture of a goldfish swimming in a bowl. Feel free to delete that image, or have an admin do it.  QuizQuick  15:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:10326.jpg

Thanks for the heads-up. I put a little somthin'-somethin' on its discussion page. --Slyder Pilot^E@ 22:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that's no good. Try to find a free picture. // Liftarn

There aren't any free ones and I gave credit where credit is due. --Slyder Pilot^E@ 18:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Then you'll have to argue "fair use". // Liftarn

Would this (or something like it) be acceptable? --Slyder Pilot^E@ 15:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC) {{Sports-logo}}

I don't know. It's not really a logo. // Liftarn

I know, but I explained my reasoning on the talk page for the image. --Slyder Pilot^E@ 18:08, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Tricky... Anyway, I've added it to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images#August_17 for further discussion. // Liftarn

Listen, it's been three weeks since you added the tag to this image and nearly two weeks since you put it here and no one has said word one about it. The reason why I say this is because users at Wikipedia seem to be very zealous when it comes to getting stuff deleted annd when something is "worthy" of deletion, it gets deleted really quick. Since no one has said anything about besides you in the last three weeks, isn't it about time to let it go? --Slyder Pilot^E@ 12:28, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

On the page it says "Images are listed here for 14 days before they are processed.". It's only images that should be speedy deleted that are deleted before that. // Liftarn

Well you did put the tag on the image on 4 August 2006, so wouldn't that cover the 14 days? --Slyder Pilot^E@ 01:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but it's a backlog due to lack of admins so it's in a holding cell for now. Since no one has said anything about besides you in the last three weeks, isn't it about time to let it go? // Liftarn

Hey, I'm new to the whole image deletion thing and you're obviously not (since it seems that's mostly what you do), so I was just curious as to the proceedure. --Slyder Pilot^E@ 10:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, what I mostly do is transfering free images to commons. If anybody has any objections to it being deleted that person should go to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images and state their case there. At least that's the prodedure as far as I can tell. // Liftarn

Image:Freezing rain.png

Question: Why did you put a NO SOURCE on Image:Freezing rain.png when is is clearly marked that it is from ENVIRONMENT CANADA which allow reproduction if source mentionned? Pierre cb 01:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

It has no web reference to where it was found. // Liftarn

I work you Environment Canada and this was in my files. I've added the link to EC policy.Pierre cb 05:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but the problem is to verify that the image comes from Enviroment Canada. I've added it to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images#August_17 for further discussion. // Liftarn

Image:Barberspole.jpg Source

The uploader is claiming original copyright of Image:Barberspole.jpg and releasing it into Public Domain; however, wikipedia appears as clear as mud as to next steps to stop image being nuked.

Can you clarify next steps (or point to article clearly explaining sequence of activities to ensure image is properly tagged / avoid deletion - as uploader is as confused as I am) - and re-add image to Barber's pole.

Thanks! Dugo 21:30, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, all you need is to change the tag to {{PD-self}}. That should do the trick. // Liftarn

Cheers. Dugo 02:40, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you cite this?

In Plutocracy you added:

"Before the equal voting rights movement managed to end it in the early 20th century many countries used a system where rich persong had more votes than poor. A factory owner may for instance have had 2000 votes while a worker had one, or if they were very poor no right to vote at all. Even juridical persons, such as companies had voting rights. In Sweden it took until 1918 until the system was abolished."

I've never heard of this before, and someone added a citation needed tag. Since you were the one that originally put that there, I'm hoping you'll be able to find some websites to back that up, as Google wasn't helping me much. -NorsemanII 08:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

And preferably a source in English as well... I've managed to find http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/FactSheet____11493.aspx?PageNr=1 that mentions it ("The voting rights reform of 1909 created universal male suffrage"). I'll try to dig up some more sources. I've found http://www.riksdagen.se/templates/R_Page____798.aspx that says "Only men were eligible on the basis of certain criteria relating to age, income and wealth.". // Liftarn

Images

thanks for the heads up on the discussion, --Paul E. Ester 15:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Can you update the count when you add one and respond on my talk page. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 14:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Image:5dollarbill.jpg

What source?! I scanned the image myself, so there is no source. --emc! ╬ ^{(t a l k)} 01:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll add that as source. // Liftarn

Loudon Wainwright

Hi, saw your message. Prior to posting the picture that I had found on a LWIII fan site, I got in touch with the author by e-mail and he granted permission. This was some time ago, and I didn't keep a record of our e-mail exchange. Hope this helps. --wpopp 08:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't know. It would be good to know what site it comes from and keeping the e-mail where permission is given. Just keep an eye on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images#August 25 and see what happens. // Liftarn

Wikipedia's LGBT Community

Hi, Liftarn! You've indicated through various means (a userbox, membership in a category, etc) that you are part of the Wikipedia LGBT community, or are interested in Wikipedia's LGBT related pages. Welcome! You may not know that Wikipedia has both an LGBT Notice Board and an LGBT Studies WikiProject. If you haven't yet done so, take a look at both of them. They sorely need attention and participation! Some things on the "To-Do List" that merit particular attention include: Identifying topics/pages that need attention Identifying problems that need addressing Adding the LGBT template to appropriate pages Categorizing LGBT pages Please feel free to participate in any or all of these activities! And if you feel like it, add yourself to either the Noticeboard Members or the WikiProject Participants - or both!

Glad you're a part of Wikipedia - and Thanks!

This invitation posted here by SatyrTN -- talk Please remove it if you so desire.

Interesting. I don't recall editing any LGBT related articles. // Liftarn 15:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:AprilFlowers2.jpg

Oops, I apologize, I read the copyright page wrong. I just reread it and saw that images like AprilFlowers2.jpg should NOT be uploaded. Again I am sorry, and thanks. Dx316dd 17:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

3rr

Hi Liftarn, you've been temporarily blocked for a 3rr vio at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. This is only a six hour block, as you seem to believe that you are only following WP:BLP policy; however, the charges against him seem fairly well documented from interviews and etc. within the article. if something is sourced and cited, it isn't libel, so i'm not sure that WP:BLP applies here. perhaps this can be worked out before the edit warring re-ensues?--heah 19:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Heath, it should be noted that this editor is reverting two tags: anti-Semitic people and "holocaust denial." He has zero support for removing the latter tag, and has reverted it repeatedly in the face of an almost ridiculously immense accumulation of sources. So I disagree with your comment that this is a good faith use of the tag.--Mantanmoreland 20:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

It should be noted that "The three-revert rule does not apply to such removals.". // Liftarn

There is also a rule against inaccurate edit summaries.--Mantanmoreland 20:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and..? There is also rules agains wikistalking and personal attacks. // Liftarn

Just proving my point that your edits are without basis and that any effort to persuade you to listen to reason is fruitless. --Mantanmoreland 20:25, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Your comments just prove my suspicion that you aren't in connection with reality. // Liftarn

Fair use rationale for Image:Benson.gif

Thanks for uploading Image:Benson.gif. The image description page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 13:05, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Islamophobia

The article is biased, besides, Oxford and other notable reference works do not include this neologism. 81.58.29.91 15:41, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Paper is limited ways a website isn't. // Liftarn

Re: unfree image

Hi, thanks for the heads-up. I think Image:Auteuil.jpg should just be deleted. Stlom 21:45, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Derivtive?

What do you mean by derivtive; It also makes it plainly clear its a free image as a) says im the author and b) it says i cropped it from my roiginal image. Please read things 1st. thanks/MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 08:51, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

If you're refering to what I think the problem is that you don't own the copyright on the box design. // Liftarn

I took the picture. thanks/MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 09:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't dubt that, but please read up on derivative work. "A typical example of a derivative work /../ is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material.". i.e. your photo is a new work, but it incorporates the artwork and design of the box. However, your photo shows nothing but the box, thus making it a copy. // Liftarn

Hmm.. So if i included something else (ie. a piece of my carpet) I could claim say the picture is to actually illustrate the carpet and the box is there by accident? thanks/MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 09:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I dubt that would work. The easiest would be to retag the picture to fair use or something. // Liftarn

I'll reupload it; It's primary purpose now is to illustrate my draws. I dont know how the box got there tho, hehe. thanks/MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 09:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Have a barnstar!

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For all your work on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. Best wishes, E Asterion u talking to me? 13:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! // Liftarn

Hezbollah

Sorry, the revert was quite accidential. I would have discussed on talk first or on your user page. However do have questions. could you say what the publication is and what the speaker's expertise in Hezbollah is and what evidence he bases that remark on? It seems an apologistic remark given the recent episodes in which Hezbollah murdered and kidnapped Israeli soldiers without provication and then in what follwed aimed at primarily civilian tartgets in Israel, and also in the context of the "publicity" they do for suicide bombing in the territories and Iraq. Or is the excuse for the killing of civilians the continued "agressive" occupation of sheba farms, palestine, iraq etc? Elizmr 01:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

The publication is Stockholms Fria Tidning from Saturday September 2. Wärn is writing a thesis on Hezbollah so I guess he's qualified. "murdered and kidnapped" is one way to put it, another would be "killed and captured" and it wasn't "without provication" considering there has been an ongoing conflict for quite some time. The "aimed at primarily civilian tartgets" is also unsubstantiated. I can tell you have strong opinions in the matter and they may cloud your judgement. // Liftarn

Please consider abiding by WP:NPA. Telling another editor their "judgement may be clouded is not in keeping with this policy and is completely out of line. Also, please consider reading WP:NPOV and considering that your opinion is only part of the truth. Finally, I'm not sure a graduate student qualifies as a "Hezbollah expert" and should not be cited this way in the text. Was the artile he wrote an opinion piece? He he state any evidence to back up his claim? Elizmr 16:39, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

"completely out of line"? Consindering the level of personal attacks that are standard on Wikipedia it in no way near what's decribed in WP:NPA. He's writing the thesis on Hezbollah as part of his PhD so he can be described as an expert in the field. He was quoted in an article about the possibility of Swedish ground forces in Lebanon. Since he is an expert on the subject of Hezbollah he should have evidence for his claim, but for obvious reasons they weren't mentioned in the article. // Liftarn

WP:NPA is a Wikipedia policy and you are breaking it. About your cite, a graduate student is hardly an acknowledged expert on a subject, and the paper he is quoted in is not by any means a newspaper of record. f he doesn't give anything to back up such a big claim in the article, I don't think the cite is really appropriate for the article, especially since it is a non-english source. Could you find something more solid? Elizmr 19:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not breaking it by far. Mats Wärn is a doctoral candidate and instructor in the Department of Political Science at Stockholm University, Sweden and a quick googling shows that he indeed is a respected expert in the field of political Islam.[1][2][3] [4] // Liftarn

Image:BARC Appendix A 1988 - Advertising.jpg

Having been off WP for two days, I was surprised to find this message awaiting me this evening. I have acted in all innocence, since I actually own the document and I did not foresee any copyright infringement. In fact, I never gave it a thought! If it has to go, I shall be disappointed but entirely supportive, as I have no wish to infringe copyright. Let me know. - Ballista 16:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but it's not a very exiting image anyway. // Liftarn

Yes, you're right, of course. It is of extremely narrow interest. Let it go. - Ballista 13:47, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Benccontest.jpg

Thanks for letting me know regarding Image:Benccontest.jpg. I am trying to find a better licensing option for this - please let me know what it would be. --Guroadrunner 18:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ashish Gulhati.jpg

As noted in the article itself (or rather the talk page), the image was a place filler until a proper image could be sourced.

The image *is* free (with permission from both the original owner of the image, and the publisher - i.e. me), but I have been wanting to get the picture replaced anywa, so have contacted the subject and he has uploaded a new image, with correct license.

This old image may now be removed.

Thanks!

Achitnis 20:43, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. // Liftarn

Image:Blade Runner Icon.png

It was free, I made it, but deleted it as it's no longer required. - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 19:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Unfree Images

I see you have a lot of free time to put pictures up for deletion but all the ones you've put on my page- and I do get excited to see the new message box but am heartbroken to see no one is actually helping me with any projects but rather is messing with old ones I've already made- are actually free to circulate around the internet as they have no copyrighted material in them and they are available on public domain websites with no literature claiming they are not to be copied. The host sites are on the pages I created if you would like to check yourself. ArchonMeld 21:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

You claim they are "actually free to circulate around the internet". Ok, let's take Image:55K.jpg as an example. You claim GFDL, but if I look at the source site I see the text "Copyright © 2001-2006 RSportsCars.com. All rights reserved.". Under "terms of use" it says "The copying, redistribution, use or publication by you of any such matters or any part of the Site, except as allowed under "Limited Right to Use" below, is strictly prohibited" and it clearly states that the content of the site is "not for republication, distribution, assignment, sublicense, sale, preparation of derivative works or other use.". So how can you claim the image is GFDL or free to use in any way? // Liftarn

The Kleemann image is from the Kleemann official site www.kleemann.dk, which has no such stipulaton on its images. RSportscars.com is actually not an authority at all in of itself but takes free and unfree images from across the circle of official automobile internet sites and pools them all together on a page that claims they are its own copyrighted images. That site is a copyright violation itself in many arenas and the only reason its images are easier to find than others are because it pays a ton of money to Google AdSense. Its copyright policy is null and void since it produces not a single one of them itself- it is a cut and paste low-grade site made by a teenager who is now rich from advertisment money. ArchonMeld 22:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

If it has no stipulation on it's images you can't use them (especially not as GFDL). If you know RSportscars.com "is a copyright violation itself" you certainly shouldn't use images from them. if you steal from a thief you still are a thief. And if you don't want the images deleted you should go to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images and state your case there. // Liftarn