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Misinterpretation of MOSDASH on hyphenated placenames

See my recent edits to Grandview-Woodland and see edit comment there; MOSDASH specifies hyphenated names are to remain hyphenated; this is not an instance of "and" or "to"; if you knew Vancouver better you'd know that (I see you're in Edmonton); the history of the official neighbourhood names is that they took their names from schools or, in some cases, streets, not neighbourhoods as such; Hastings-Sunrise was named for Hastings Elementary (across from the PNE...actually I think it's Hastings Park Elementary) and not to New Brighton, also known as Hastings in the past (Hastings, B.I.) and Sunrise Elementary School. "Woodland" is not a neighbourhood name. As with the regional district changes of the same kind these were all in error even according to MOSDASH but also to CANMOS, which specifies local usages be respected, and to the sources, which invariably use hyphens. There's a big discussion on Talk:Poland-Lithuania right now about this, and on WTMOS....I have to go to bed; i saw this one earlier and am really grated about having people invoke MOS in spite of what it actually says, and also with no respect to sources or standing conventions in Canadian/BC English......Skookum1 (talk) 10:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

I see you also were the one changing regional district names on the (wrong) presupposition that they were "and/to" constructions, which they're most explicitly not; they are hyphenated geographic names and as such should have always remained hyphenated; claiming/interpreting that they are formed of two independent entities is original research; the Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District is "Alberni and Port Alberni and the Somass Valley and Great Central Lake and Barkley Sound and Ucluelet and Tofino/Esowista Peninsula and Long Beach and Flores Island and Hesquiat it is not simply "Alberni and Clayoquot" (Clayoquot, British Columbia is an unoccupied village site at the start of the Clayoquot River; in the context of the name the meaning is "Alberni Valley to Clayoquot Sound", and the name of the RD is NOT Alberni Valley-Clayoquot Sound Regional District.Skookum1 (talk) 20:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply
They are not quite literal and/to constructions, but they are certainly not gramatical constructions like prefixes or compound adjectives. The hyphen-minus is so short that it makes joined words look like they are supose to be pronounced together, like "co-operation" or "apple-flavoured". Treating them like constituent parts by using the n-dash still makes more sense to me. I don't think that the "and" usage intends to exclude other areas from being part of the region. —Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 01:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
As a British Columbian, it looks downright weird to see the dash; it is never used in such names; I wound up on the phone today, at length, with various government offices in Victoria, climaxing with the Office of the Legislative Counsel which is "the horse's mouth" on legal-name usages and official style; hyphens only in all geographic placenames, prov parks, development regions, RDs etc (though in some ecological reserves you'll see forward slash). BCLaws.ca is the location of all regulations and statutes (the two combined = "legislation") and there's the Protected Areas of British Columbia Act for parks/protected areas and the Local Government Act for the RDs. See the RM2 at Talk:Alberni-Clayoquot Regional District, my latest post there details the relationship between displayed HTML and hardcopy usage/style, which now that I've found those core, binding sources, will be over shortly; there's various park-names that need fixing for the same reason.....hard to dig through the move-log for them, I wish it had a "search this log" function instead of just a chronological scroll/list. The Office of teh Leg Counsel has a very strict style guide, and takes this very seriously.Skookum1 (talk) 02:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply
Vancouver neighbourhoods may or may not be covered; more likely CoV (City of Vancouver) acts/statues, I'll look into that tomorrow, but teh same prinicipal applies - local usage, most common usage, not foreign-imposed guidelines.Skookum1 (talk) 02:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Assess

Could you re-assess the Progressive Conservative Party of Newfoundland and Labrador article. Newfoundlander&Labradorian (talk) 01:22, 3 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks I realize it's still in hard shape but I did make some quick improvements. Newfoundlander&Labradorian (talk) 13:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Do you know what it would take to get a GA rating for both the Kathy Dunderdale and Danny Willliams articles? Newfoundlander&Labradorian (talk) 17:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Talk:Phi Gamma Delta

Good work in adding the FAQ. Hopefully it will stave off further conflict. ... discospinster talk 14:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Bot to add to Category {{WikiProject Canada}}

Arctic.gnome, please accept my unequivocal apology. In the past, much like WP:Montreal, I was too dismissive of you as an agent from the Canada project. I didn't think you had a great knowlege of Canadian music. I also didn't think you had a great concern for the projects using the Canada banner.

Can you possibly help now?: I think it is time that our projects have a bot go through the remaining categories within/under Category:Canadian music and add the template {{WikiProject Canada}} (specifically: {{WikiProject Canada|class=Category|music=yes}}). I've added many articles and categories to both the Canada and music projects. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Canadian music has about 6200ish items. I suppose you will need some sort of further rational? Easily done! Please reply here with a {{talkback}} on my page. Thanks very much. Argolin (talk) 10:46, 3 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

What is your take on this AfD? It is for a series of articles that you have done work on. --KenWalker | Talk 04:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

Canadian PMs list

New message at the talk page. BartBassist (talk) 13:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

List of Canadian federal parliaments

Hi Gnome,

There is a new weekly section on the main page called "Today's featured list" and I have nominated List of Canadian federal parliaments to have a spot here. There has been some opposition to the nomination, so if you would like to help address the concerns that have been raised, that would be greatly appreciated.

Neelix (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

I have nominated List of Prime Ministers of Canada for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. 117Avenue (talk) 20:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Nomination for deletion of Template:Featured topic box tan

 Template:Featured topic box tan has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. — This, that, and the other (talk) 10:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

Persons Case - Answered Your Request

I've edited the Persons Case article to answer your inquiry about who Edwards was. A mere 33 months later! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:02, 5 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! Since making that request I did an M.A. in political science and started a law degree, so I probably could have figured it out on my own had I remembered. —Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 05:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Say, do you know how to make templates? I'd like to have a template for decisions of the JCPC relating to Canada, similar to the one on the Edwards page, but don't have the tech skills. I've got an idea of what I'd like to do - let me know if you're interested. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 04:01, 19 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Do you mean making a whole new template? What's wrong with the one that the Edwards case is using? If there are one or two Canada-specific fields that you want to add, it might be easier to update the existing template. If you just want to use the existing template on new pages, that template at Template:Infobox court case. You can add the template to an article by copying the block of text in the "usage" section and adding the information you want after each equals sign. —Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 04:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)Reply
well, you see, I am not technically competent. :) How do you edit a template by adding new fields? I agree that the infobox on the Edwards page is a good start. Here's the changes I was thinking of: (1) adding a maple leaf to it, so that whenever it's used for a JCPC case relating to Canada, there's a symbol to show the Canadian connection. Is there a way to add the maple leaf that is used on the WikiProject Canada info? (2) change "Judge(s) sitting" to "Judges sitting", since the JCPC always sat as a panel; (3) add a new field: "Decision by: " to be able to show which judge wrote the decision; (4) change "Prior action(s)" to "On appeal from", since the JCPC was an appellate body; and (5) delete the field "Subsequent action(s)", since the JCPC decision was the end of the road. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 05:19, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this list know that it will be appearing as the main page featured list on October 31, 2011. You can view the TFL blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured list/October 31, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured list directors The Rambling Man (talk · contribs), Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) or Giants2008 (talk · contribs), or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured list. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tbhotch. Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Non-free files in your user space

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Phi Gamma Delta

So tough to keep the appropriate level of vandalism notice for those who delete the letters. :) Serious question. In your link, you add a colon at the beginning inside the link [[:Phi Gamma Delta]], just curious why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talkcontribs) 20:28, 23 October 2011‎ (UTC) Reply

Includeonly tags

Hi! I guess you figured out that he <includeonly> tags serve the purpose of making the parameters visible in the sample template on the description page, which is helpful for allowing users to see what the template looks like. If they are omitted, then the parameters can't be seen. — Cheers, JackLee talk 07:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Includeonly tags

Hi! Thanks for improving {{Infobox court case}}. I guess you figured out that the <includeonly> tags serve the purpose of making the parameters visible in the sample template on the description page, which is helpful for allowing users to see what the template looks like. If they are omitted, then the parameters can't be seen. — Cheers, JackLee talk 07:34, 22 November 2011 (UTC)Reply