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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 08:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

The One Where Rachel Smokes edit

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Created/expanded by Lemonade51 (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 23:32, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

  • New enough and long enough with the expansion. Hooks are all properly formatted. Article reads as neutral to me. Plagiarism check here, here, [1], here show no cause for concern. QPQ done.
  • Book source supports article and is not plagiarised in writing article.
  • Understanding plot details do not require citations, other stuff still needs to be cited. I've tagged the uncited, non-plot details in the article. This needs to be resolved. Image used in article has been nominated for deletion. This needs to be resolved or the image removed from the article. --LauraHale (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Hook discussion
  • Alt1 appears to have tense problems. The fact is supported by a reference in the body of the article.
    •  Fixed tense. Is it better? --George Ho (talk) 01:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
      • Yes. Thanks. :) --LauraHale (talk) 01:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
        • Also, added Lisa Kudrow. --George Ho (talk) 01:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
          • Just a note on ALT1, Aniston never actually quit smoking (successfully that is) until now. A year after this episode was aired, didn't she admit to smoking pot with Pitt? Perhaps the hook could be she 'tried to quit smoking with the help of hypnosis'? -- Lemonade51 (talk) 11:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
            •  Changed to "hynopsishypnosis". --George Ho (talk) 20:04, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Alt2 is not supported by a citation in the article.
  • Alt3 is properly formatted and referenced but not the most interesting of the proposed hooks. --LauraHale (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Fix citation issues. Address hook issues unless Alt3 is desired. --LauraHale (talk) 00:55, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Jennifer Aniston stopped smoking?? Did I know? More like I don't believe it! She's known to be a heavy smoker and I doubt she just stopped smoking. She's the type who loves to smoke!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

 Changed phrased to "attempted hypnosis to quit" --George Ho (talk) 23:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Still waiting on citation issue fixing. Given WP:BLP issues related to smoking and Jennifer Aniston, looking at Alt2 or Alt3. --LauraHale (talk) 04:30, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Have addressed citation problems. -- Lemonade51 (talk) 20:54, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Did the commentators review these scenes on DVD? --George Ho (talk) 21:22, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Nope, the producers (Bright/Kauffman/Crane) only do audio commentary for three selected episodes each season. For Season 5, it's Thanksgiving, 100th episode and The One Where Everybody Finds Out. Which is tricky when you want to expand the production section for the 20-odd other episodes. -- Lemonade51 (talk) 21:38, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Citation issues addressed. (And now the length expansion doesn't actually check out. Article is shorter than it was at nomination time and might not be up to length.) Alt2 or Alt3 should be good to go. --LauraHale (talk) 22:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

 Elaborated more in ALT 2. Nevertheless, if ALT1 doesn't work, then either of two others must be more interesting. --George Ho (talk) 22:51, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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