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Sara Gilbert as Leslie Winkle (again!)

See also: Talk:The Big Bang Theory/Archive 3#Sara Gilbert as Leslie Winkle, Talk:List of The Big Bang Theory characters#Leslie Winkle, and Talk:List of The Big Bang Theory episodes#Leslie Winkle

Since the question of Sara Gilbert being part of the main cast has been resurrected,[1][2] I'll go over it again......

She was part of the main cast in season 2. Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Style guidelines#Cast information states, "When organizing the cast section, please keep in mind that "main" cast status is determined by the series producers, not by popularity or screen time. Furthermore, articles should reflect the entire history of a series, and as such actors remain on the list even after their departure from the series." Some of the more important points to note from this are:

Since Sara Gilbert was a main cast member at one time she remains listed as a main cast member even though she is not in that role any more. This is necessary to ensure that the article reflects the entire history of the series, as required by Wikipedia:WikiProject Television. It's really as simple as that. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:12, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with you. Sara Gilbert was in a total of 8, yes EIGHT episodes out of how many? 97? That does NOT constitute someone being part of the main cast. At best she was a Guest Star. She should not be listed as a main cast member. General Bozz (talk) 04:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't matter that she was in eight episodes. MOS:TV, which is linked to, and quoted, above is clear. She remains in a starring role. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Leslie Winkle (October 2010)

Leslie Winkle is no longer a main cast member, so i feel we should place her into FORMER MAIN CAST, it does not make any sense to keep her there, but everytime i do so, it's reverted. I'm going to do it one last time and if it happens again, im gonna report it to WT. Rusted AutoParts talk 11:35 21 October 2010 (UTC)

As has been indicated twice now, by different editors,[3][4] we don't split cast members that way. This is also a discussion that was recently had at Talk:NCIS: Los Angeles#Unexplained/undiscussed cast table changes. This comes from Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Style guidelines#Cast information and is addressed above, at #Sara Gilbert as Leslie Winkle (again!). As a main cast member she remains a main cast member, not former main cast. --AussieLegend (talk) 14:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
You see, that's the point: SHE IS NOT PART OF THE MAIN CAST! She's amongst the many recurring now, she hasn't been billed as a main cast member since season 2, so i think you can finish the puzzle from here. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 12:12, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm really not sure what part of the above section is giving you trouble. "Articles should reflect the entire history of a series", means that her status as a main cast member has to be recognised. "Actors remain on the list even after departure" means that even though she's not a main cast member now, she still remains on the main cast list. We always treat fiction in the present tense, regardless of when an episode airs. When we talk about the first episode, we say Leonard and Sheldon visit a sperm bank, not "they visited" a sperm bank. Similarly, Leslie Winkle is still a member of the main cast, not "she was a member" of the main cast. --AussieLegend (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
I mean no offense at all, but that's really stupid. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 13:47, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Not if you understand the principle at work here. We're not a fan site, writing in the moment about the characters as if they were in the real world. Fiction exists in a sort of permanent present, given that you can shift your perspective on it at any time. Watch the new episodes, that is the "now". Buy the DVD and watch season one, and your "now" changes. --Ckatzchatspy 18:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Could a reasonable middle ground be adding - "(Main Cast - Season 1, Recurring Season 2 - Present)" after her character name? This seems to be in place before the current lock and along with the description detailing the fact she was deomoted to recurring character as the writers couldn't provide quality material for her every episode. This is in keeping with Wiki's Cast Section policy and shows that she is no longer billed as a main cast member. If an actor is billed as main, even for one episode, they should be added to the "Main Character" list. Even if they are no longer considered a main character by the producers. SunGodRa (talk) 10:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
This article includes "Sara Gilbert as Leslie Winkle, Ph.D. (recurring seasons 1 & 3, occasionally starring season 2)" and at List of The Big Bang Theory characters#Occasional is "Dr. Leslie Winkle (Sara Gilbert) (appeared in 8 episodes total, 4 credited as main cast)". This has been in place for some time. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:19, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Homosexuality

There has been a pretty strong theme of homosexual overtones between Howard and Raj. Any reason why this is not currently mentioned in the article? Efficacious (talk) 01:37, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: Efficacious's remark, I have to disagree. I have witnessed many male-male relationships that have sexual overtones. However, I think this is a result of society's changing acceptance of emotional openness in males. However, I would like to point out that on March 29th 2012, a new episode was aired in Canada that hinted that Raj may be a bisexual. Spoiler Alert This was the episode where his parent's arrange a wedding with a lesbian. He is seen cooking and cleaning and acting rather effeminate. And when Bernadette gives him that puppy, he acts very... gay? End spoiler alert Even though we have seen Raj sleep with other women, his lack of having a long-lasting stable relationship with a women (even Sheldon has a "girlfriend"!)may point at him experimenting with his sexuality. Any other thoughts? Mellondrama (talk) 30 March 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 06:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC).

Improper Naming

When I discovered that this was not about the big bang theory, displeasure became apparent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.232.206 (talk) 09:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Consensus is that this article is not improperly named. This article is about The Big Bang Theory, a television series. The cosmological model is called the Big Bang theory. --AussieLegend (talk) 09:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
What data supports your consensus? Don't you know that great scientific minds refer to it as The Big Bang Theory? Just look at the Nobel Prize lectures and papers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.70.89.12 (talk) 03:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I've always known the scientific theory as the Big Bang. It's commonly called, and/or referred to as the Big Bang, because it's believed to be an actual event. It's be like calling Quantum Mechanics, The Theory of Quantum Mechanics, which it isn't. The Big Bang may be a scientific theory, but it's not called the Big Bang Theory. Also, the show's title "The Big Bang Theory" is a double entendre for nerds trying to score.99.252.114.222 (talk) 09:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Do the characters work at Caltech?

Though the show is definitely set in Pasadena, the characters Sheldon, Leonard etc. always refer to the institutuon they work at as "The University", never as "Caltech". Do Caltech academics really refer to Caltech as "The University"? Or could the writers be suggesting a fictional university, based in Pasadena, but not connected with the real-world Caltech? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.241.199.21 (talk) 10:27, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

In the pilot, at 14:40 Howard introduces himself to Penny as "Howard Wolowitz, Caltech Department of Applied Physics". Since they all work together it's a pretty safe bet that they all work at Caltech. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Primary topic RFC

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Big_Bang_Theory_(disambiguation)#Primary_Topic_RFC. Polyamorph (talk) 18:17, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Homosexuality?

Hello,

I had noticed that there are references to Raj and Howard having "homosexual tendencies" on both character pages (and I am pretty sure on the main page also). Does anyone else think this comes across as a little strong? Although, Leonard's mother does say that have created an "ersatz homosexual relationship", the whole point of her saying this is a joke and it's almost taken out of context. Is there relationship not to dissimilar of that of Joey and Chandler, i.e. bromance? Also, the way these paragraphs are written are almost like essays, with the reference of quotes and episodes in a way to almost 'prove' that there is possibility of such happening in the future or it has happened. I just don't think this seems very encyclopedic or adds anything to the character pages. Could this be rewritten in a less speculative way? --Jennie | ☎ 17:23, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Redirecting the article

Hi all, I came to ask for the redirecting of the article due to confliction it causes when searching the web with words "big bang theory". This wiki article was the first Google hit! The sitcom is using this well known name to benefit from it in terms of publicity - and has now won the rivalry, which is just abhorrent! Think about a kid that has just heard the name Big Bang the first time and searches for more information, and is forced to form an association to the TV series. Please, could we redirect this page to "The Big Bang theory (series)" or something? Probios (talk) 02:26, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Please see the previous discussions. —David Levy 02:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Besides, changing the title to include the parenthetical "series" is not likely to change what shows up on Google. Powers T 19:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

International broadcast section

Is this really needed? Wikipedia isn't the TV guide, it shouldn't be in the business of listing all of the secondary markets. Sven Manguard Wha? 00:33, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Inclusion of an international broadcast section is supported by MOS:TV but it should be as per MOS:TV#Broadcast. Unfortunately, most TV articles don't. --AussieLegend (talk) 11:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 May 2012

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Under the U.S. Standard Ratings, it says that season 5 aired from Sept 22, 2011 to May 17, 2012, when it only aired until May 10, 2012. Everywhere else on this page the season finale date is the same except here. Please fix this.

154.20.198.46 (talk) 19:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Done Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 May 2012

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"Sheldon" wears a variety of t-shirt styles by Thinker Clothing(tm), "Knowledge as Your Style", offering designs that highlight innovations in the fields of Science, Tech, Engineering and Math ("STEM"), human behavior and character.

He's worn "Nanotubes"(c) on numerous episodes over several seasons, and also "Atmospheric CO2"(c) (featured in "Entertainment Weekly" magazine), "Mobo"(c), "Quantum"(c), "Are You Grid-Equipped?"(c), "Roboticus Carpalium"(c), "De Oxy Ribo"(c) and "Screens and Lenses Work Magic"(c). http://www.ThinkerClothing.com. (Submitted by Lisa C. Clark, CEO, Textiles for Thinkers, LLC)

75.209.215.177 (talk) 22:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

N Not done In order for something like that to be included, it would have to get significant coverage in multiple independent Reliable Sources (RS), rather than coverage by the product manufacturer, which if included, could be seen as promotional Wikipedia:Spam. Dru of Id (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Howard's Mother

The page says Howard's mother has never appeared onscreen. But in The Countdown Reflection, when the camera zooms out to space, you can see Howard's mother sitting on the roof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.78.209.28 (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)