Talk:National World War I Memorial

Latest comment: 7 years ago by RM2KX in topic Merger proposal

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This is kind of bugs me. Not that I dont appreciate all the time people spent in kansas city making tthe liberty memorial. But WWI had to the most pointless war in hostry, Im willing to argue that with any one. Sure we should remember this but why put up a memorial? Plus is says "liberty over oppression", America's moto has always been "Fight the fight on their turf" Oppression wasn't a possibility. Its not like the Germans or the ottoman empire was gonna get a ride on a ship and try to attack the Unite States, it couldn't have happened, let alone motovation. This memorial says "Yeah we beat them" rather than "Yeah we fought crime in the name of justice" --El Froggo

The Liberty Memorial isn't a tribute to the wisdom of World War I, it's a tribute to the people who died fighting it. Cookiecaper 00:59, 28 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Oh, Right --El Froggo

Linking Liberty Memorial to Wikipedia's World War I page edit

I believe that the Liberty Memorial should be linked and mentioned on the World War I page under "memorials". I am not sure how to go about asking for this. Please advise, assist. Thank you - Darren —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.13.105.138 (talk) 20:34, 25 October 2006.

Same as editing any other article on Wikipedia - you either just do it, or alternatively, discuss it on that articles discussion page. Now, I don't see a section named "memorials" on a quick scan. I do see, under the heading "Aftermath", that there is a main article Aftermath of World War I that includes a list of WWI Memorials, the first of which is the Liberty Memorial (with link to this article). Perhaps the most major memorial of each nation involved can be included somewhere in the WWI article, but this should probably be discussed on the WWI discussion page first. Now if you want, you can also argue that the Aftermath article should include a link to the Rosedale World War I Memorial Arch, but the list is only of major memorials, and I'm not sure that qualifies. --Reverend Loki 21:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

National World War I Museum - opening Dec 2 edit

In light of the opening of the National World War I Museum at the Liberty Memorial site tomorrow, I created a redirect at National World War I Museum. I may yet include a "See Also" link at National World War II Museum, and hopefully add to this article about it. If anyone gets a chance, I invite you to help me expand it. --Reverend Loki 21:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

This ought to clear things up about why a Missouri city was chosen for the museum:

Does this seem right to anyone. edit

The sentence "

"The design of the building is typical of the federal-type buildings of the era and is designed in the classical Egyptian Revival style of architecture "

confuses me a bit. Does this suggest that Egyptian Revival is a typical federal-type building style of the era? And really, to me, the sphinxes are about the only Egyptian element found here. I am not happy with this but would like at least another opinion before dismantling the sentence. Do I hear a second? Carptrash (talk) 19:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Sphinx's? edit

I'm not sure that they're two sphinx's exactly. Never seen a sphinx with: wings covering they're heads???

If someone can write a bit about the meaning behind their odd design I (and likely others) would be quite interested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.158.243 (talk) 05:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Done Added to article for National World War I Museum and Memorial ahead of planned merge. RM2KX (talk) 04:17, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Add "Memorial Association" section edit

I made a few changes that included a section on the Memorial Association that was instumental in securing funding, the land, and the building of the memorial. I moved important information to the lead. Long before it was a WWI museum it was a memorial. I deleted reference to "federal-type" buildings. There is no proof that there were enough federal buildings designed and built on the Egyptian Revival style of architecture for this to be "typical". In fact, it might be more accurate to state that cemetaries or colleges of the era would be more typical. Otr500 (talk) 16:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

My issue is that the statement "The design of the building is designed in the classical Egyptian Revival style of architecture" is not accurate at all, or is at best misleading. Besides the Sphinxs here, which are not part of the buildings as such, what else Egyptian Revival is there? I see that I posted something along these lines a year and a half ago and this time I am inclined to act. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 21:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
  • I saw what you wrote, looked up some articles, including the inline link Egyptian Revival, and the article or source/link did not support what was written so I deleted with reason.

I did not find supporting evidence of the statement either. I have not seen a close up of pictures of the memorial neither have I been there (and you called the error), so if you feel that the statement is wrong, in fairness to a correct article, I would delete it. If someone cares(after the year you mentioned I doubt it) to provide evidence then it can be added back right? Otr500 (talk) 00:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • Note: The NRHP infobox list the Architectural style(s) as: Beaux Arts Classicism, Egyptian Revival. I went to the NRHP webpage on Liberty Memorial http://tps.cr.nps.gov/nhl/detail.cfm?ResourceId=1159372926&ResourceType=Site ,and found, (...Liberty Memorial vividly exemplifies the fulfillment of city planning concepts, incorporating monumentally-scaled Beaux Arts Classicism envisioned by some of the nations most notable designers..), which does not mention Egyptian Revival. I tried to go to the NRHP state listing but the site was down for maintenance. Otr500 (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Merger proposal edit

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge. RM2KX (talk) 21:03, 27 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I propose that the article National World War I Museum and Memorial be merged into Liberty Memorial. The Liberty Memorial has, since 1926, contained the museum in question. Congressional action in 2012 merely allowed the memorial shaft and museum to use the title "National World War I Museum and Memorial". Since Liberty Memorial is the far more established name, I would keep that page, and use the current article as a redirect. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:14, 18 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

I agree they should be merged, but in the other direction, as the Liberty Memorial is a subtopic of "National World War I Museum and Memorial. RM2KX (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Also the memorial's article is shorter and will be easier to merge into the longer one. RM2KX (talk) 04:47, 26 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I agree that a merger would be appropriate. I would suggest giving the information about the National World War I Museum greater prominence by moving it toward the beginning. Wiki jlmartin (talk) 03:44, 18 February 2016 (UTC)Reply

I'm late to the party, but yes, a merger seems sensible. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I think we can close the merger discussion. I have volunteered to do the merge and sketched a plan, but if someone else would rather do it who can maybe do it faster I'm fine with that. Waiting to hear from Tim1965 again. RM2KX (talk) 21:33, 24 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.