Talk:Dolph Lundgren/Archive 1

Hitler Comparison?

Is there a source for the idea that Drago's charachter was inspired by Hitler? Only 'man of few words' isn't the traditional description of one of the worlds most famous orators.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulus4949 (talk • contribs) 00:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

BTW, do you know, that both Stallones sons are ethnic HALF-GERMAN from their mother side? Surely, you were not the best student,if you confused Hitler and communists, but at least you have a very, very rich imagination and brought us to laugh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passer-by2013 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, it's not like he would have failed the test of Hitler's "Aryan ideal men". Ironically, he played a Russian in Rocky IV, and we all know what Hitler felt about Slavic people. — EliasAlucard (Discussion · contribs) 14:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</small

People, if you have some crazy ideas, you shouldn't put a strain in poor Wiki. R4 is a movie against COMMUNIST SYSTEM, not against Nazis. Accidentelly, russian and scandinavian people are most tall and blond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrom1234 (talk • contribs) 07:49, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

And what about Rocky: MUSSOLINI COMPARISON? Really, Wikipedia is not a right place to present your "Aryanphobie" or other phobies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrom1234 (talk • contribs) 07:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Dolph Lundgren does not speak that many languages

I just finished watching Russia Today not more than 20 seconds ago and Lungren has said that he does not speak that many languages.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_r6Ug6_e8Pw

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 23:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Nyland

I come from a nearby neighborhood to Nyland, a small village in the Northen Sweden (Ångermanland) and Dolph Lundgren is supposed to come from there, and not from stockholm. He went to the local school Ådalsskolan when he was you and graduated with 5.0 as avarage (the top) -Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.241.212.7 (talk) 00:56, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

I come in Peace

What about "I come in Peace???" The ultimate Lundgren classic!!! Not even mentioned on wiki!

Pff, the ultimate dolph lundgren quote is "I MUST BRAKE YOU!!". Ps. I heard he is half Russian, true or not?

It was listed as "Dark Angel", which was the shooting title. IMDB has it listed as Dark Angel, but Dolph's offical site calls it "I Come In Peace" so I'd consider that more accurate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.210.210.95 (talk) 04:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

Cleaned this page up

I've removed the sentences and corrected certain parts which needed adressing should anyone have a problem or enquires you can find me at my home page. --Andrew Chung 01:27, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Lundgren's IQ

There seems to be some confusion about this, on his messages board on his website, he wrote in answer to a question, [1]

Question: " But is it true that you have a genius-level IQ?"

Lundgren: "No I have a genius level IQ."

and

Question: "With a reported IQ of 160, the chance to attend MIT, and theability to speak 5 languages, why acting? I have enjoyed several of your films, but do you ever feel you could have done more with your mental gifts than with your physical ones?"

Lundgren: "Well, acting just happened. It wasn’t something a planned. But it happened and I sure enjoyed the business. My mental gifts as you called them have helped me a lot though."

Yet on IMDB, there is "Said to have an I.Q. of 160, but according to himself this is untrue." [2]

My guess, is if he really does speak five languages then there's a good chance he does have a high IQ. As for his being a polyglot, he has this to say, "Well I speak Swedish and English of course, then German, French, Spanish, Some Italian and Japanese. There you have it! Best Regards," [3]

What does it mean? Well, maybe he is simply being modest, or on the other hand since he did write

"No I have a genius level IQ.",

and the 'No' may have been a freudian slip. Balance of probablities suggests he is in fact a smart cookie.

lars 12:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

It may be because he does not have a "genius-level IQ," but instead has a "genius level IQ." See the - ?

-unknown editor

You've got me there, maybe his IQ is dropping off with age and he forgot the hyphen. :)

lars 12:09, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the paragraph about his IQ, he states in several interviews that this is not correct. ArchStanton (talk) 07:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

I added an (obvioulsly not wholly serious, but more humble than 160 ) quote from Lundgren himself claiming he's barely smarter than a chimpanzee due to his boxing. here's a link to the article in Swedish. http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesliv/klick/article1492456.ab --64.173.240.130 (talk) 18:07, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Dolph studied engineering and was awarded a Fulbright to MIT (which already suggests he is smart), yet still managed to find the time and energy to master martial arts, learn many languages, and succeed in a long-term acting career. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a fairly high IQ. --82.31.164.172 (talk) 11:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Obviously he is has a very high IQ perhaps at least 140 but 160 is literally genius like Einstein, Stephen Hawking.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:38, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Height

I saw an interview with him on Swedish TV some years ago where he claimed he was only 193cm (6'4).

I've seen that too (well, a text version): the interviewer said he's 198 cm (6 ft 6 in), but he corrected it to 193 cm (the trivia section has this a bit weird using Imperial units with decimals). However, cirka 1986 he said 195 cm (6 ft 4¾ in) – the 6 ft 5 in figure is likely an approximation of that. And in between he's said 194 cm (6 ft 4½ in). This isn't that unusual though – these big muscle men, like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Lou Ferrigno seem to lose some height with age. I've seen him state his weight between 99 and 111 kg (218 & 245 lb) over the years. --Anshelm '77 02:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Not only that, but the first two items under 'trivia' seem to contradict each other in terms of his height....

Yes 6'5" is 195.55 cm or 1.955 M not 200cm or 2M ..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.24.2 (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Duke Nukem

There is no one in the world who could better perform Duke Nukem then Dolph Lundgren. I hope they will make this movie with HIM !!!
He IS Duke !!!

-- 217.236.83.45 (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

languages

"He speaks five languages: Swedish, English, German, French, Spanish and Japanese" .... 5? or 6? --Nambio 01:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, i remember when he came back from some filming in the US and forgot how to speak Swedish, so can we take that off the list (i'm being sarcastic) --64.173.240.130 (talk) 18:09, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Is he really a MSc in ChEngineering?

I've checked at U. of Sydney and I didn't find any citation from Hans Lundgren. If there's a Master degree thesis of Lundgren I would find it in the search tool of U.Sydney Library (opac.library.usyd.edu.au). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.54.247.58 (talk) 19:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

He does, but it's from the Royal Institute of Technology. (See this link for proof.) I don't know why the article says Sydney. Anyone? Nymf _hideliho! 22:25, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

spain

according to his website, he lives in spain. but this article says he lives in stockholm and new york.

I heard he lives in London sometimes

No - he does not live mainly in Stockholm. I have met him once. Coolaid4u 00:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hulk picture?

Why is there a picture of what appears to be the Hulk when (a) this doesn't appear to be him, as I don't see anything that credits him as playing the Hulk and (b) the caption says that it is a picture of him as Ivan Drago? Tozoku 22:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Evidence of the nemesis assertion?

Please excuse me, but where is the evidence to support the claim "He is also the true life main nemesis of Bruce Campbell."? I can find no information in this article nor in the article on Bruce Campbell to support this claim... Please explain! Thank you!!  : ) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keyuehan (talk • contribs) 05:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

I heard he created the atom bomb, can anyone confirm this ?

Infobox

There's lots of info in the infobox if you look at the code for the page but not very much if you look at the page. Why is this? can someone fix it? Entheta (talk) 23:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

K1

There should be a reference to his fighting background. It was Kyoshin Karate (or however you spell that), and he had a fight with Oleg ~3 years ago... you can find youtube videos of him fighting when he was young, and when he was much older vs. Oleg 80.108.103.172 (talk) 19:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

weightlifting award in 1987?

Clearly he could not have won a junior weightlifting award in 1987. This year must be much earlier, right? How could he qualify as a junior at age 30? I will hide the year for now. --SidP (talk) 20:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Rob Schneider?

At the top he is stated as a classic action hero. what is up with that? another prank on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saber Phoenix (talk • contribs) 13:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dolph Lundgren/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: My76Strat (talk) 01:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I have started the review of this article and anticipate that I will append comments below as appropriate. I do welcome all constructive involvement that will likely ensue. And I thank everyone who has contributed to making this article "good". From here, the Good Article Criteria will govern my expectations, and guide my determination regarding this article, and its designation as "GA" class.

Comments initiated by reviewer

• I am not seeing the second reference as substantiating every fact where it is cited inline. Please review if it is the best reference in each place where it is used. Currently it is confusing the facts more than verifying them. My76Strat (talk) 02:33, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

There are no issues here. My76Strat (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• In these sentences, "Lundgren claims that his father was physically abusive and vented his frustration on his wife and oldest son. He claimed that during his tirades, his father would call him a "loser", which motivated him later as he wished to prove himself and grew more ambitious.", the word claim and claimed exist as an expression of doubt. Consider "Lundgren said" or "Lundgren states" and rather than "He claimed", again, "He said" or "He asserts", or some other variation which directly attributes the thing said without the expression of doubt. My76Strat (talk) 03:00, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed My76Strat (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• In this sentence, "His lines "If he dies he dies" and "I must break you" are amongst the best known of the Rocky series and are widely cited in popular culture.", the term "widely" is a weasel word and exaggerates how often the catch phrases are actually in use. Unless you can cite "widely" and attribute a source, the adjective adverb should be dropped. My76Strat (talk) 03:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed My76Strat (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• Should not this sentence; "...dealing with a al-Qaeda esque terrorist organization...", be "an al-Queda esque"? My76Strat (talk) 03:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed My76Strat (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• There are several examples where the serial comma is sometimes used, and sometimes not. Its use, or abstinence should be consistent throughout the article. Please search the word "and" to find some of these inconsistencies. My76Strat (talk) 04:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Examples include: the first sentence, "...Swedish actor, director, and martial artist." where the serial comma is used, followed by the next sentence; "...Chuck Norris, Steven Seagal and Jean-Claude Van Damme.", where the serial comma is omitted. Here is another omission, "...Jason Statham, Jet Li and Mickey Rourke." while this demonstrates positive use. "...The Mechanik (2005), Missionary Man (2007), Command Performance (2009), and Icarus (2010)..." The guidelines here outline the desire to maintain consistency with regard to the desired preference. Currently, I can not tell whether its use is intended as a preference or not. It is only applicable where three or more items are joined by the conjunction. My76Strat (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• The presentation of the subjects name is confusing. The quotations around "Dolph" are not clear. Was he born Hans Dolph Lundgren? Or was he born some other name, and is better known by his stage name? I think you can present this name with more clarity, or at least insert a footnote. IMO My76Strat (talk) 17:56, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Hans Lundgren is his birth name, usually given at the beginning of the intro. Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• In this sentence, "...sent on a mission as GR operatives.", the acronym GR jumps out of the prose having never been introduced. It engenders a pause in the reading, where the interested reader must research its meaning. Consider a less ambiguous way of describing the operatives. My76Strat (talk) 18:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

This to my knowledge is unknown. There is even a forum here about it. It would be original research if I tried to guess what GR stood for. They are simply known as GR operatives. Could be "Genetically Recreated" I don't know.

The only possible way is to at some earlier point, enunciate that they are members of an elite group known as GR-13, and considered GR operatives. And then later when you state their being sent on a mission as GR operatives, the term will have a clearer meaning. My76Strat (talk) 12:18, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• There are 2 times his birthday is mentioned, once in the lead, and once in the infobox. One of these should be referenced; I recommend where it occurs in the infobox to maintain the lead as free of clutter as possible (which it is). My76Strat (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed Intro is not cluttered, it effectively summarizes the article as it should do.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• Whenever a number is integrally linked by a space, as in this example: "He's a hulking 261 pounds of merciless fighting machine, the best that Soviet science & medicine can create", the space should be a non-breaking space as outlined here. My76Strat (talk) 18:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed ?♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:25, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• Contractions should be expanded unless they are part of a quote. This example, "Although Sky Movies remarked that Lundgren isn't exactly Clint Eastwood..." should be expanded or clarified as a quote. My76Strat (talk) 19:12, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Removed first part, kept only quotes.  Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• In this sentence, "He sent off videos and pictures of himself to a distant contact of Sylvester Stallone which eventually got through to him and Lundgren tried out for the role.", "the role" is not clear. It is not until later that the role is further identified and should be enunciated more clearly. IMO My76Strat (talk) 19:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

• That "he became a bodyguard for Grace Jones" is introduced in the lead but not included in the article body. The lead is for summarizing facts which are expounded in the body and not specifically to introduce stand alone facts. If the fact is to stand alone within the lead, it should be referenced there. My76Strat (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed Please read more carefully. It says he was hired as a bouncer in a Sydney night club where he spotted and became one of Jone's entourage. Meaning bodyguard. If you wish me to mention bodyguard I will do so but this is what I mean by one of Jone's entourage. I have changed the word entourage to bodyguard.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• The lead states, "They (him and Grace Jones) moved together to New York City to pursue acting,...", whereas the body indicates it was a developing relationship which prompted the move and the decision to pursue acting was a subsequent consideration. Please remove ambiguity to this regard in relation to the sources. My76Strat (talk) 19:53, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

It was a bit of both, they fell in love and Jones tried to get him into acting. I'll try to clarify. Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:39, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• Please make the spelling of English words consistent with either American or British spelling. The article contains this example, "...in the action film The Expendables, which opened in theatres on August 13, 2010.". and this example, "2010 marked his return to theaters with The Expendables...", which shows that both are sometimes used. There are also examples where conversion templates take information from American standard notation to its metric equivalent as in this example, "...the film was shot and weighed 245 pounds (111 kg) at his heaviest. However, in the film he was billed at 261 pounds (118 kg)...", compared to this example, "Lundgren stood around 195 centimetres (6 ft 5 in) and weighed 111 kilograms (245 lb)." These expression should consistently be converted in one direction, and deference should also be consistent with the preferred manner of spelling. My76Strat (talk) 22:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed I'd prefer pounds first.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• The following references: 8, 44, 99, 108, and 112 are dead links. Please correct the url, or discontinue citing the reference with an invalid url. My76Strat (talk) 22:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed, although ref 9 template has gone weird, can you fix it♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Add a pipe, "|" between html, and title. My76Strat (talk) 12:24, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Which I did correct. My76Strat (talk) 12:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• The link for "Eduardo Rodriguez" needs further disambiguation. My76Strat (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Also disambiguate the links for "Iman" and "The Package" (in the sub-section "Actor"). My76Strat (talk) 00:04, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• In this sentence, "...is a Swedish actor,...", should not this be "...is a Swedish male actor,..."? The preceding is a rhetorical stab in jest; (my attempt at humor) I actually find the sentence fine in its current manifestation. My76Strat (talk) 22:19, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Dolph Lundgren not female? Really?. Not needed sorry.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

• Within the references section, the date format should be consistent. Currently dates are shown as: 11 June 1989, and 2010-09-06. My76Strat (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

 Fixed ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:25, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments initiated by article contributors

I've addressed points 2, 3 and 4. Can you be more specific about point 5, can you identify the sentences for me which you believe have incorrect usage of the serial comma. I'm not sure what you mean about point 1. I tried to attribute a source to each fact. Please identify every fact/ref which you view as problematic.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I will expand comments under each specific bullet and you are welcome to indent a comment under each bullet as well. Thanks for giving attention to the suggestions above. My76Strat (talk) 16:17, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

With regard to this reference; unless there is more to see beyond the 100 or so words the link shows, It seems to lack verification for nearly every fact. I do not see any of the quotes for example. Am I missing something with this reference? My76Strat (talk)

• Comment. Hi My76Strat. There's a scroll bar just to the right of the text which allows users to advance downward to read the rest of it. It's easy to miss; I had to look twice before I found it. Majoreditor (talk) 16:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC) 17:22, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for that. It exactly explains the part I was missing. My76Strat (talk) 18:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Please identify exactly what you are talking about.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Please disregard the comment pertaining to this reference. It was an error on my part. My76Strat (talk) 18:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments initiated by interested observers

I like Dolph Lundgren a lot but I think someone should really condense his page.There's way too much information and a lot of it is unnecessary.

I get a headache from all the scrolling lol.

I totally agree with this. The article is full of unnecessary details in the early parts of the career section. Like the villa where he stayed during the filming of Red Scorpion. Also elements of his personal life are within that paragraph.Filmman3000 (talk) 16:38, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

What I have found

</noinclude> Dolph Lundgren is a good article because—

1. It is Well-written to wit:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

2. It is Verifiable with no original research. It has been reviewed, and found compliant to the following standards:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose); and

(c) it contains no original research.

3. The article is Broad in its coverage and has shown that:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic; and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

4. It is Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. The article is Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute and it does:
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio, and the specific examples within the article have shown:

(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

Well done! - My76Strat (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Sport activities

I read, he began with Judo in age of 16, and Karate in age of 17. People have normal 1 Kyu in that age. How he could become a champion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.4.227.141 (talk) 08:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

What is he actually famous for?

I know Dolph Lundgren as an actor. Like everyone does. But I kinda wondered why. After I went through this article tonight, I remember I had done so before, with the same intent. All the interesting things about him being pretty smart, a martial arts guy and a hard worker came back. The article is well structured and quite readable. But I am still unable to say what made him famous. The part about his movie roles is rather lengthy, but it seems to me it mostly points out movies that were unsuccessful. Maybe a real movie buff, not just a dabbler like me, can emphasize that part in the article? 80.145.38.197 (talk) 21:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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"Dolph"

There is no mention in the article of where he got the name Dolph from. His real first name is "Hans". — Preceding unsigned comment added by StuZealand (talk • contribs) 21:19, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

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Still needs alot more work --Andrew Chung 01:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

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belt and years for winning tournament.

"attaining the rank of 2nd dan black belt in Kyokushin in 1978. He captained the Swedish Kyokushin karate team, and was a formidable challenger at the 1979 World Open Tournament (arranged by the Kyokushin Karate Organization) when he was only a green belt. "

He was a 2nd degree black belt in 1978, and was a formidable contender for a title in 1979 as a green belt. He took a year off sat on the couch came back to his dojo and got downgraded 6 ranks or so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.159.160.129 (talk) 11:32, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

"Frank Valdez's wife's brother"

Under the heading Career: 2000s: 2005-2009, the penultimate sentence in the fourth paragraph states "Lundgren's co-writer, Frank Valdez's wife's brother happened to be a notable actor working in Texas..." I'm going to need to see this plotted out in a chart to be able to understand what the editor who added this is trying to say. Perhaps they could add the actual name of this person, rephrase it into less torturous syntax, and maybe explain what makes that actor "notable". Bricology (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

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Too many biased sources for movie reception history

We need to honestly have there be different sources as opposed to the same DVD/Video Guide books, Variety and Roger Ebert being restated for every other movie he has made. There's also some un-cited info posted there (where does it say most critics have problems with the violence in Showdown in Little Tokyo for instance?) and overall inaccuracies on his movies being theatrical until 1995 when in fact, much of his stuff ended up going theatrical only in Sweden, Japan or United Emirate Countries then straight to DVD elsewhere.Justbecause5 (talk) 02:48, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

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Has this article been hacked?

His name is from a hamster's distant relative? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.80.188 (talk) 14:58, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

It was vandalized recently. Thanks for noticing that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:07, 24 November 2017 (UTC)