Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scottish Islands/Collaboration Archive

Collaboration of the Month

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These don't always seem to work too well, but I think its worth a try. My suggestion, to keep admin as simple as possible, is that we simply go round in alphabetical order with someone choosing an article, and perhaps indicating a hoped for outcome. This would last for the calendar month, then on to the next. If there is anyone with a burning idea, please fire away. If not, I'll suggest something and we'll see how it goes. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:15, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion for November is Ulva, as this is a short article of a place with a reasonably interesting history. It also fits in with the rotation I suggested in another thread, since the current one is Shapinsay, and it makes a change from another Orkney topic. --MacRusgail 15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I was planning to vote for Linga (disambiguation) but I must have missed the division bell. For future reference I wonder if we could agree a nominations open/close date? Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I think there's only so much that can be done to Linga (disambiguation), really, identify co-ordinates, this kind of stuff. Very important and useful, but I suppose limited - God knows I took a bit of time sorting it out! I've suggested below that we should maybe rotate the various island groups... that way, Shetland's next look-in should be December. Ulva's got a lot of stuff which can go in... how did I choose it? Closed my eyes and put my finger on the map. Seems to work though. --MacRusgail 19:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC) p.s. Looking at the Shetland articles, Jarlshof is one of the weaker ones, but since we did Skara Brae recently, some variety is probably needed.

Great work on Ulva, which with a little tweaking will be GA (or better). It's that time of the month again. I was of course joking about Linga (disambig), but if we want a challenge maybe North Ronaldsay sheep or one of the obscure Scandinavians - or perhaps somewhere in the Firth of Clyde for a change? BM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben MacDui (talk • contribs) 09:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Ulva is still weak in a couple of areas, but I will get round to sorting them out. It does show what can be done with reasonably small articles. I would go for somewhere in the Clyde (which hasn't been done yet), and then somewhere in Shetland. Probably back to the "Utter Hebrides" after that. I won't be round as much in December. Tis the season to be stressed and shopping after all!

I think articles such as the sheep can be done - hopefully if we can rope in people from "livestock" wikiproject or whatever it calls itself. However there are several major islands which have very weak articles. The two Mainlands, Yell, North Ronaldsay, Mull, Harris - and if I mind rightly, Islay and Jura. These are all big major islands, so should be a priority IMHO. --MacRusgail 14:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

We could try Arran, although I don't have much material in hard copy myself. An alternative would be Islands of the Firth of Clyde. I've actually got a partially completed re-draft in a spare cupboard. It needs a fair bit of work on history and maybe tracking down odd islets and rocks. Might be an easy one for a busy month. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 19:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd go for Islands of the Firth of Clyde. Since it's december, we don't want to be having to track down in-depth info on an island. Lurker (said · done) 15:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Well we could cheat and combine Dec and Jan here. It would suit me anyway. --MacRusgail 16:31, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

My suggestion for February is Yell, a brief article. #15 in population (#3 in Shetland), #11 by area (#2 in Shetland). This keeps the location of the collaborations circulating, and also helps deal with one of the bigger islands. --MacRusgail (talk) 20:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

No response, but I will put this up as next month's collab. --MacRusgail (talk) 13:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Skye is in need of serious clean-up and my suggestion for March. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 13:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd go with that BM - anyone else got any suggestions? --MacRusgail (talk) 14:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I just found your invite to this MacRusgail (sorry, I haven't used my Wikipedia account for ages!) and had a few free hours, so have just done a proper article for Castlebay. Barra and Vatersay are the only things I really know about on here, so it's probably the only article that I could have helped with. I hope it's good enough- I haven't done anything like that before! - -Mikleran 00:09 02 March 2008

Collaborators will (not) be shot at dawn

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Can I suggest that we pinch the format from Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Collaboration so that we can vote on potential candidates for collaboration?

My ongoing adaptation of it (with some tell tale refs to novels) is here - User:MacRusgail/Sandbox3. --MacRusgail 18:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it is a fine idea, and my sole concern is that it may be a little over-elaborate for our small numbers. However, if you are happy to maintain it, I'd say go for it. If for any reason it fails to nominate anything by say the 6th of the month I suggest we just fall back on the 'somebody picks something at random' routine. Well done with all the snaps of Shapinsay btw - the pokers are a real splash of colour. Ben MacDui (Talk) 19:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I think a rotation may be good, something like

• • Orkney
  • Inner Hebrides (+ Clyde)
  • Shetland
  • Outer Hebrides
  • Other (Forth, Sutherland, Freshwater, Seas, Bays etc).

There's a list of top priority stubs further up the page. Perhaps one of these can be picked. Heart of Neolithic Orkney is my pick, but since we've already done Shapinsay, perhaps something non-Orcadian should be the next one.

Thanks I picked up the pokers picture off geograph... just to prove to our readers that not all Scottish islands are barren moorland!!! --MacRusgail 10:27, 20 October 2007 (UTC) p.s. I am doing a bit of recruiting of people for the project, so hopefully we shall have greater numbers soon.

April & May collaborations

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Sorry, I have taken a bit of a backseat for this month, as I have been busy elsewhere. Any suggestions for next month's collaboration?

I suggest going back to somewhere in Orkney, to keep the rotation going.

The Mainland, Orkney article is pretty pitiful, and should be linked up with the relevant pages. --MacRusgail (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Onybiddie oot there? --MacRusgail (talk) 18:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes - been busy and still haven't tidied up Skye. Happy to do look at Mainland, Orkney, although there is obviously a lot of scope for duplication of Orkney itself. I think it would be useful to have an agreed 'scope of works' if we're going there. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 08:16, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be fantastically long. It really needs to link into the parishes properly, plus sites of interest etc.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

OK - I should have a bit of time this weekend. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 18:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

May

I notice that we have managed to avoid Na h-Eileanan Siar so far. Any suggestions? Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 08:28, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Church of St Clement, Rodel (something different)/Castlebay/Leverburgh (Leverhulme story is well documented and interesting)/Machair/Great Bernera

The Outer Hebrides (I refuse to call them the "Western Isles" - that's the Hebrides in general - see Dr Johnson etc!) got a lot of attention just prior to the start of WPSI, with Mingulay, St Kilda etc getting a lot of attention. I think for June, we could consider one of the Islands of the Forth, or - if possible - a freshwater island (difficult to get material on most of them. Neither of these have featured yet.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I know very little about these eastern and freshwater isles, but I'm willing to give it a bash if you want to make a suggestion. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 18:16, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'd go for the Bass Rock - it's mentioned in RLS etc. --MacRusgail (talk) 13:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

OK - I do have some lighthouse related stuff. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 17:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

June

...is nearly upon us... we might go for some of the Outer Hebridean suggestions above.--MacRusgail (talk) 19:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

? June is now here, but no giant worms in sight. Any suggestions?--MacRusgail

I'm maybe a bit short of time this month - something not too taxing - Biruaslum :)? - or any of the above - or perhaps one of the Barra Isles. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 18:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... that came up for deletion. Any decent sources available for expansion?--MacRusgail (talk) 15:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I fear not. I was pulling your leg per this trickster. I'd be quite happy with An t-Ob - unless you prefer a challenge at Brahan Seer - in quite an absurd state at present. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 11:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I did wonder... Come on, someone, make up our minds for us. I already dictated the last couple! --MacRusgail (talk) 13:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Great Bernera it is then. Ben MacDui^Talk/Walk 21:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

August & September

Probably time for the Shetland Islands again - I suggest West Burra or Jarlshof.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Jarlshof sounds good to me. Top class, still a stub, and plenty of available information. Ben MacDui 08:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Jarlshof it is then, as long as no one objects. Notable, interesting site, and Skara Brae's already been done... --MacRusgail (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well that was quick! Any September suggestions? Ben MacDui 08:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Just hope it's not just you and me. You did almost all the work on the last one. :( --MacRusgail (talk) 15:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't mind at all - its great if folk chip in, but there is no harm done if not. Are we back at the Inner Hebrides now? Ben MacDui 16:13, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Portree? --MacRusgail (talk) 18:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

If you must, although Skye was the last one in this 'section'. Ben MacDui 19:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Gigha?--MacRusgail (talk) 21:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Great choice! See you there. Ben MacDui 07:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. There must be some decent stuff on the buy out somewhere. I have a book on the prehistory of the place in the house somewhere. If I can find it!!! I won't be active much for the next week or so, but will try something.--MacRusgail (talk) 18:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I see God's Islanders: The Story of Gigha by Catherine Czerkawska in the shops. I have some archive material too. Ben MacDui 18:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Good progress - not sure what to make of this Battle of Delgon business.

October

Anyone for Orkney? I'd really like to get round the rest of the WP: 0.7 stuff below as well so something straightforward. Suggestions:

• Tart up Orkney itself - should be easy to get to GA
• Any of the major neolithic monuments
• Westray or South Ronaldsay for some vin ordinaire. Ben MacDui 08:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

SR, although I may not be participating as much this month... --MacRusgail (talk) 12:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

OK - I'll be taking it easy myself, but I'll set up the flags when Gigha is tidied away. Ben MacDui 08:12, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Time ticks away and some of the remaining WP 0.7 copy edits look time consuming. I'm also away for a few days myself mid-month. Unless anyone is inspired I'll probably leave the change until about the 20th (when 0.7 needs to be in) and then SR can run through until the end of Nov. Ben MacDui 17:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

December

SR has crept along slowly and its time for a change of scene. The schedule suggests a trip to the west. Barra Head? Ben MacDui 18:40, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

January

Isle of Arran? --MacRusgail (talk) 17:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, and a happy New Year. See also below.... Ben MacDui 18:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Aye same to yourself.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

2009 Collaborations

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Good progress on Barra Head, so its time for Shetland again. Islands are by their nature formed by water but we have few decent articles on maritime geography. They might be hard to create, but spurred on by the new Sounds of Scotland, Yell Sound could be a candidate. Ben MacDui 20:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm also fine with Arran although it needs a fair bit of work. Ben MacDui 12:46, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's go with Yell Sound for what remains of January and then start on Arran in Feb. Ben MacDui 14:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Collaboration - August 09

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I have boldly suggested List of Outer Hebrides for August. A draft is currently in a sandbox of mine and you're all welcome to pitch in. Please note that at present big chunks of it are copies of the Orkney list, which need to be replaced.