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Som Production (SP) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject does not meet the notability guidelines for companies and the article is written like an advertisement. Ae245 (talk) 15:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Delete. The fact that a CSD A7 tag was placed on the page and then removed without much proper attempt to fix the problems makes me vote delete too. Procyon117 (talk) 15:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Wrote promotionally, sources are only primary. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Delete Fails WP:NCORP, the somali inside news ref looks like a paid placement and certainly reads like an ad, a bouncewatch entry doesn't count for notability, and is little moe than a database entry anyway. All other sources primary, and searching does not come up with anything else. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:1823:FC07:8CDE:1454 (talk) 19:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Delete, does not meet notability guidelines and is promotional. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdirahman Ali. Staraction (talk | contribs) 03:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Keep, The fact that this page is deleted and then removed without much proper attempt to solve the problems is my vote keep too.192.145.175.211 (talk) 03:53, 23 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ken Duncan (photographer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Relies for notability very largely on a single article in "Creation" magazine. This is largely based around an interview with the subject so is not reliable . The Order of Australia is not an award that conveys any special notability. This whole article looks like a promotional job with nothing that meets WP:GNG. It has been tagged as potentially lacking notability since 2013 without any significant subsequent improvement.  Velella  Velella Talk   22:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Photography and Australia.  Velella  Velella Talk   22:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Hi Velella. I would agree that on the surface, this article appears to be self-promotion for a small, insignificant person. However, based on my experience as an Australian with a mild interest in photography, Ken Duncan is reasonably famous in our region, at least as far as photographers go. His panoramic photos are commonly seen in homes, cafes, health clinics etc. I've heard more than a couple of people say phrases like "Oooh, I love that Ken Duncan" when spotting a framed print on a wall somewhere. There would only be a small handful of other Australian photographers with his level of success, and I can't even think of their names at the moment. If someone asked me to name a famous photographer, he'd probably be the first name that would come to mind.
There are dozens of his photographic prints on the 2nd hand market, with some selling for many thousands of dollars, if that is anything to go by:
- https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/550/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=ken+duncan
- https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-art/ken+duncan/k0c20039
There's also dozens of news articles about him: https://news.google.com/search?q=ken%20duncan&hl=en-AU&gl=AU&ceid=AU%3Aen, including by ABC news, Daily Mail, SBS, Channel 9 News, Australian Geographic, etc.
I think the article needs some better sources/references, as I agree, a single Creation article is not adequate. I hope that it can be improved, and not deleted. SimonEast (talk) 00:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment - I did see these sources during a search before nominating but I couldn't see that any of them conveyed notability as almost all appear to be interviews , or based on interviews with the subject. Although interviews can be useful in supporting text within an article, they can't support notability as they are not independent.  Velella  Velella Talk   08:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Delete See below - Saw this on my watchlist and couldn't remember why. Looks like I added the notability tag 11 years ago, and there's been no real improvement to speak of since then. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Keep won an ARIA Award for his Cover Art in 1988. Appointed OAM in 2009 for "services to the arts as a landscape photographer and publisher, and for his service to the Central Coast community."shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Keep Had a quick rummage through the media - seems like there's enough information about him in sources like National Geographic, Rolling Stone, BBC to make him consistent with WP:PHOTOGRAPHER--Saul McGill (talk) 12:45, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
    links? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:27, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
    [1], [2], [3], [4]. RS and NG I couldn't find, as it turned out he worked for them, not them writing about him. But NG published a book of his photographs--Saul McGill (talk) 23:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Thanks. Interviews in industry and travel publications can often be promotional, but the BBC and Australian Geographic look good. Combined with the other sources and award, it's enough for me to strike my delete. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Keep – The ARIA Award clinches it for me; it's Australia's rough equivalent of the Grammies and winning one probably confers about as much notability. I've had this article on my watchlist for a while due to vandalism, even though I know nothing about the subject for obvious reasons (see my user page), and I was leaning delete/meh on this nomination until the ARIA Award came up. Graham87 (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Proposed deletion

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Merging two 19th c categories

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I have noticed that Photographic processes dating from the 19th century is the most commonly used one, but there is one Photographic techniques dating from the 19th century. It's creating a false division between them as they are both partially cataloged.

Category:History of photography articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion

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Category:History of photography articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 20:32, 16 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

Michael Yamashita

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Hi all,


I am a fan of Michael Yamashita and am attempting to salvage an old Wikipedia page before it is deleted. I've deleted some information without sources and am adding neutral info & facts. Open to any help and advice as I am a new editor. I believe this page contributes to the public good as Michael is one of the most well known modern day Asia photographers.


-Drew Cryptohydrate (talk) 16:17, 22 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Hello!
Some progress has been made on Michael Yamashita's page, thanks to some editors here and others.
There is a "citation needed" on the first sentence of the bio, with regards to exhibitions. I've started [thread] with a link to some useful info on the Talk page, in hopes some editors will take a look and advise. Cryptohydrate (talk) 15:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Improving Film speed

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Hi there, I just wanted to get my suggestion sped up a little by pointing it out here: Talk:Film speed#ASA: 1943 vs. 1960. --2003:DA:CF39:B861:60FA:97C4:BA2C:67AC (talk) 23:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply