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Discussion moved from WP:ANI

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 – This was all regarding the invite template which has now been rendered moot with a NPOV invite template. -- Banjeboi 01:30, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Returned back to WP:ANI. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 10:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

link? -- Banjeboi 00:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Tagged articles

Nadya Suleman

  Resolved
 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 11:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


AVADirect

  Resolved
 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 12:09, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


Dog poop girl

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 – Redirected. -- Banjeboi 12:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
    • Redirected and now at DRV. -- Banjeboi 05:42, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Template:Rescue

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 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 12:10, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Template:Rescue/testcases

  Same as above but leave posted here for now. -- Banjeboi 17:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


Bad girl art

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 – Not at AfD. -- Banjeboi 00:00, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Platinum Blonde (Paris Hilton album)

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 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 14:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


Running Waters Productions

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 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 12:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Red Sox-Rays rivalry

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 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 12:11, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

User:A20anna/Kriss Perras Running Waters

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 – User space error. -- Banjeboi 14:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


Murray Hill (performer)

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 – Snow keep. -- Banjeboi 12:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


Barack Obama/Criticism of Barack Obama

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 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 12:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


Botnus

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 – Redirected. -- Banjeboi 12:47, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


Witchcraft and Wizardology Museum

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 – Redirected. -- Banjeboi 12:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Smokestack america

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 – Not at AfD. -- Banjeboi 12:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Anti-article improvement shenanigans at Airi & Meiri AfD

Hi, Rescue Squadron. An article on a fairly specialized genre of Japanese entertainment has been targeted-- first incorrectly marked for Speedy Deletion, then Prodded (I removed this with a link to the Ja-Wiki article, which shows an extensive resume of the two), and then put up for AfD. All within a day of course. When I and another editor with experience in this very difficult-to-source article started working on it, the nominator began blanking out the article, and edit-warring. When I objected, he filed a complaint against me (I don't know the specifics, since I am here to work on articles, and try to avoid this kind of bullshit). Anyway, if anyone here cares, here it is in a nutshell: The Nominator, determined to delete this article without input from anyone else, has prevented work on the article, and driven away those who can work on it. I won't pursue actions against this editor, as I don't like to spend my time in this sort of thing. But this kind of thuggish anti-article improvement behavior is clearly detrimental to Wikipedia. Dekkappai (talk) 15:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmmmm.
Now you.
Thuggish anti-improvement behavior indeed, but I don't think I'm talking about the same person you're talking about. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 16:30, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The user Dekkappai is continuing his thuggish behavior. --Cerejota (talk) 05:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Article AfD Alerts

Wikiprojects can now automatically monitor AfDs! Maybe this is something we could do? Ikip (talk) 01:59, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea to me. A lot of the time when people nominate AfD they have the courteousy to notify the creator and/or other major contributors, but other times it totally gets slipped under the radar like some covert assassination. Tyciol (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
That's a bit different. We're a clean up project as opposed to a creating project. We could use it to alert to issues with our pages though. I have a note in to see if this can be done via talkpage sections rather than static posts. -- Banjeboi 02:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
Looking at what gets alerted , I think that this is completely useless for this project. The only articles in the ARS scope are already tagged for deletion, and it is unlikely that an RFC, GA review, ... will start at the same time. Fram (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually these deal only with pages that our project banner is on, not the rescue template. For instance, it would alert that our main template was at TfD. I don't see a lot of harm in having it. Also I hope that the good folks who run that system can modify alerts so we would get a talkpage thread of anything that actually needs our attention. -- Banjeboi 13:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I misunderstood. Objection withdrawn :-) Fram (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure could set it up to watch Category:Articles for deletion and Category:Proposed deletion, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll check.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 16:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

You had the alerts set up in a weird way, so I fixed it. It's possible that you have a "template loop" error message, but that'll go away soon. In the meantime simply follow the link from you main page.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 06:13, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it! -- Banjeboi 14:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Bad girl art

Please join the discussion on this article. It's not yet up for AfD but is being gutted and is in need of rescue, thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 19:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I've done some clean-up there but you'll need to sort out restructuring the article to keep the images. You might want to seek experts in the area to help expand the article as if AfD were in process. -- Banjeboi 23:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Not so much restructuring, but ensuring the images meet WP:NFCC. At the moment they just appear to be plastered on at random. Black Kite 00:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
To me that means the article needs to be restructured a bit so that a logical use of the images becomes more apparent to all. I don't know the history of the article or the genre so am only able to help so much. As an artfrm, however, it does seem logical that there would be a handful of images and that's what is there now. Perhaps it's one or two more than needed but it really needs someone who knows the stuff to discern what serves our reader best. There's a BBC series Antiques Road Show which has experts who could talk at length about the history and nuances of a single artwork proving background information including historical context over time whereas you and I might just say "my, what a lovely landscape". That article needs someone versed in the artform to help make an informed judgment call. -- Banjeboi 00:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes, there's clearly no problem with having some images in an article about an artform; my only two concerns would be whether they are particularly notable or historical examples of the form, and whether this is linked to in the text. If it isn't, then they run the risk of just being decoration. Also, I wonder if we have any free images of the genre? Unlikely if the genre supposedly started in the 70s, but you never know. Black Kite 10:37, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Huh, it's bad girl comic art. I was expecting Russ Meyer. If you're looking for input, try WT:COMIC. This sounds like it's right up Sandifer's alley. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 11:02, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Josh Rosenthal (musician)

I removed a db-bio tag from this article as it claims notability. I've placed some improvement tags on the article but the author has repeatedly removed them ([1][2]) without improving the respective areas and without leaving any reasoning on the talk page. I've tried to get the author to ask me if they have questions but have not received a response. He's been putting in references to myspace which have been revered and he's been warned (by a bot) twice. He's recently added a picture which he claims is his but at the same time gives credit to someone else in a caption see here.

I'm getting frustrated with this article (and its author) and I'm looking for input from other. I bring it to the ARS becuase I think it could easily be taken the AfD if the issues aren't addressed. Thanks for your time. OlYellerTalktome 21:58, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I would leave a friendly note on his talkpage. - All articles are subject to our notability guidelines but as a musician Josh Rosenthal (singer/songwriter) will be subject to Wikipedia:Notability (music). Please also note that Wikipedia regularly gets new articles on musicians who do not yet meet these guidelines and those articles are removed. To keep this article we need to be able to verify independent coverage in reliable sources (links to newspaper articles, for instance) and notability. -- Banjeboi 00:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. I asked him if he could find some links to verify his claims on the talk page but he hasn't responded yet. I'll leave it on his talk page and see what happens. Thanks again. OlYellerTalktome 00:54, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
No problem. We were all new once! -- Banjeboi 02:18, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
I left the message on his talk page a few minutes ago. I'll wait a few days and see if we can get some references before I take anymore action.OlYellerTalktome 01:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone else took the article to AfD here. Since then, the author has responded in the AfD and had missed the messages I was leaving for him. We're getting on the right track now but I'd appreciate it if others could help me verify the new references and contribute to the AfD. I'm still not sure if this article is rescuable which is why I haven't added the rescue tag yet but if you believe it is, please do so. Thanks for your time. OlYellerTalktome 19:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
There are now at least 3 references provided which, in my opinion, fulfill the general notability guidelines. I added the rescue tag. Sorry to have dragged this in here.OlYellerTalktome 19:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Tagged articles

After Forever (song)

  Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 06:05, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Alan Cabal

  Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 06:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Quantum bogodynamics

  Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 06:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Danny Gokey

  Resolved
 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 06:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Imperial Academy (Star Wars)

  Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 06:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Solitude (song)

  Resolved
 – Deleted. -- Banjeboi 06:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


World of Warcraft Professions

  Resolved
 – Redirected. -- Banjeboi 07:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Dexter (Dexter's Laboratory)

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 – Redirected. -- Banjeboi 07:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Architectural History

  Resolved
 – Kept. -- Banjeboi 06:27, 18 March 2009 (UTC)