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USS PC-1264 edit

I picked up a copy of Black Company and after reading it looked on WP to see if it was represented. I found a stub and decided that the story of the ship needed to be told. I started in November 2009, and then left it for months. Recently, I completed it and it was upgraded to B-class. I made some more improvements, including two images. Now I'd like to see it go higher, and maybe one day even be a FA. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 02:15, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added three more U.S. Navy images showing the crew (2) and a practice depth charge run (1) with explosions during the shakedown cruise. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:54, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Nick-D edit

This is a very strong article. You've made good use of the available sources and the article is an interesting read. My suggestions for further improvements are:

  • Wikipedia generally avoids text stating that the topics of articles "deserves to be remembered" - the assumption that anything which is notable deserves to be here. Text like "proud of the ship and the men who had relieved them" is also best avoided as it's emotive
  • Some background on the design and role of this class of ships would be interesting and would provide useful context
  • Background on how this ship came to have an African American crew (and why such crews weren't more common) would be valuable
    • Done. I added a few paragraphs and went into some detail when I realized that this information, aside from a few allusions, was not really present in WP. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 16:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • On what date did the ship possibly engage a submarine while escorting Convoy NG-448, and is is possible to be more precise about whether this was an actual German submarine or a false alert (which were much more common than German subs in the west Atlantic by 1944)
    • No date is given for this attack. But Purdon's book states the ship escorted the convoy for "a week at the end of July." It also states the incident happened on the first day. Later the text states the convoy arrived in Guantanamo on 27 July. Therefore, making an educated guess, I placed text in the article stating the incident happened on 21 July. If this is a problem, we can amend that to state "late July." I also added text stating the contact was a large underwater object and, following SOP, the PC-1264 attacked until the convoy was safely out of range. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk)
  • "a radio signal detached three of the ships" - is a bit unclear. It might be best to say that "a radioed order detached three of the ships" as it was the order rather than the signal which led to this change
  • As above, on what date did the sub possibly detect a German submarine near Buoy Able?
  • It's not the case that the sinking of U-538 was the final action of the Battle of the Atlantic; U-881 was sunk by the US Navy on 5 May.
  • What's the ship's current condition? While the article states that she's still extant, the satellite imagery at the coordinate provided suggests that she's one of a large number of beached hulls - is this the case? Nick-D (talk) 07:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Contacted owner (Priolo et al. online reference.) of Web site that has 1990-era images that shows PC-1264 as a rusted hulk still afloat amid other ships sold for scrap. No answer after 10 days. So I added a sentence explaining the 1990s images.Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:00, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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