Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Peer review/USS Finland (ID-4543)

USS Finland (ID-4543)

I would like to see what areas need to be worked on to get this to A-class and possibly FA-class. — Bellhalla (talk) 23:21, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

JonCatalán

Very interesting article! A question to begin with though, and not necessarilly for the edit, but what does USAT stand for? Regardless, here are some comments:

- In 1912, Finland was chartered by the American Olympic Committee to take the U.S. team to the 1912 Summer Olympics in Stockholm, Sweden. -- Perhaps a citation? It's nothing that I would consider 'arguable', but I would think that perhaps it would be interesting to see a source and it's a specific fact. Looking at the rest of the introduction, it seems citations are avoided because the information is presented below. From my experiences with the T-26 I found that people were still interested in citations in the introduction, despite the information being covered in detail below; this may or may not present itself as an issue when you present it for FAC, although admittedly none of the information is horridly questionable, or something someone would question.

- Although this is another one of those 'it may or may not be an issue', maybe making articles for the red links? You could create them into stubs.

All in all a very well written and well cited article, on a little known but very interesting (at least to me!) subject. It should be mentioned that while I don't normally read naval history, especially on a topic such as this one, it actually was extremely interesting - so, in my humble opinion the writing is wonderful. Good work! JonCatalan (talk) 09:28, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Responses, in order:

• USAT stands for "United States Army Transport". I usually make that more clear when introducing it, but must have missed this one. Thanks for catching!
• I do try to avoid cites in the lead, if possible. The chartering itself is specifically cited below.
• Most of the other redlinks are for other Navy (or otherwise notable) ships. Before proceeding with an FA nom, all would be created (at least as stubs), or de-linked.

Thanks for taking the time to read and review, and the kind words. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Neovu79

Removing a lot of the red ink would help; they are always an eyesore. Neovu79 (talk) 02:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it would help. I am following Naming conventions (ships) where it says "Make a link from the first mention of each ship in an article, even if Wikipedia does not yet have an article about that ship" (see the section "Referring to ships"). The result of following that guideline—especially when it is considered that World War I ships, particularly transports and armed/converted yachts, seem to be an underrepresented interest of WP:MILHIST and WP:SHIPS editors—is lots of red links. Any help you can provide in creating articles about the notable ships linked in USS Finland (ID-4543) would, of course, be welcome. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)