Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Peer review/Henry III of Nassau-Breda

Henry III of Nassau-Breda

Hi, this article has just been assesed as B-class. I'm still quite new to Wikipedia, so I'm not sure how to make it better still. Does anyone have any comments for improvement? Tom 13:29, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Kirill Lokshin

It's quite a nice article, but it's still a bit short, particularly where his military career is concerned; he was a fairly significan military leader, so more than a paragraph's worth of detail is probably possible. (If I have time, I'll try to add some more details to that section, since I have a few usable references to him that I can use.) Also, the lead section should probably be made somewhat longer—perhaps two full paragraphs—and some inline citations should be added where appropriate.

Overall, though, this is very good work so far. I've been able to find only minimal material on him in English; is he a more prominent figure in the Netherlands? Kirill Lokshin 16:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind comments, I will try to do what I can. Unfortunately, he hardly is a more prominent figure in the Netherlands: much of the history of the direct pre-Revolt period usually is snowed under by the later period, the more so for the early Nassaus, who are all overshadowed by William the Silent and his successors. My main sources for this article were a prosopographic notition in a book concerning Low Countries' nobility in the period 1470-1530 in general, a chapter about the pre-William the Silent Nassaus in the Netherlands in a book about the Orange-Nassaus in general, an entry in biographic dictionary from 1911, and some research I conducted about 1,5 years ago. I only know of one book in Dutch that specifically concerns him, and that's mostly about his relation with the city of Breda.

As far as I know from the French, German and English/American literature about the period, he is often hardly mentioned at all, or only in passing. He might however figure more prominently in some works about the so-called Guelders Wars (Gelderse Oorlogen, something which Wikipedia needs an article about as well), but as far as I know no good general work on that subject exists either. Also flipping through some biographies of Charles V (mainly Karl Brandi's work) might help. May I ask in which works you found references to him? I've always been disappointed by the low level of attention he gets. Tom 16:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've found him mentioned (in passing) in Wim Blockmans' Emperor Charles V and Francis Hackett's Francis the First (in the course of researching the Italian War of 1521, if you're wondering). Unfortunately, aside from giving some indication of his role in the warfare on the Meuse in 1521–22, there is very little detail about him. Kirill Lokshin 16:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've read Blockmans' work some time ago (fun thing is, he is our own professor of Medieval History), but I haven't got access to the book right now. I guess I really should buy it. Anyway, I see there are some books here about Charles, Duke of Gelderland and his (in)famous army commander Maarten van Rossum (not to be confused with the Dutch historian Maarten van Rossem). Henry might be mentioned there. Tom 17:09, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]