Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways/Peer review/Utah State Route 161

Utah State Route 161

I am looking for feedback before I send this to A-Class review and to possibly FAC. --Admrboltz (talk) 03:13, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

• Minor issue really, but The first route, which was active between 1933 and 1953 and connected SR-1 to SR-68 in Bluffdale. is not a complete sentence. Looks good otherwise. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Reworded --Admrboltz (talk) 04:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
• The article is a bit on the short side; FAC will probably complain. Just a warning. --Rschen7754 (T C) 04:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Nods which is why its a big maybe. But at least ACR... --Admrboltz (talk) 04:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
• In the history section, perhaps you could elaborate on the fact that, in addition to the southern half being former SR-4, the northern half is former SR-1. The old SR-1 used to jog to the east to travel through Cove Fort. When I-15 was built a few ways to the west, they moved SR-1 to coincide with I-15, and made the south part of the bypass SR-4, and the north part SR-161. This is mentioned in the resolutions PDFs for SR-161 and SR-1. DeFaultRyan 19:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Dave

• I wouldn't say SR-1 or SR-4, as these were legislative designations that were not known to the general public. They were not usually published on maps available to the public. Basically they were used by UDOT and the legislature only. As such, their mention is likely to cause confusion, rather than help. I'd say U.S. Route 91/Interstate 15 (SR-1) and Interstate 70 (SR-4), or similar. I also mentally substitute the "real" designation as I read these. It helps me to resolve the confusion.
  • Striking SR-4, as you pointed out, it was signed along with "Temporary I-70". Dave (talk) 14:41, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
• I'm not sure the last sentence of the history section adds much, it's also sure to be outdated eventually. I'd just remove it.
• I disagree with the conclusions drawn from source 6 (The Highway Resolutions PDF). My take is the following: All of what is now SR-161 was an old routing of U.S. Route 91. The southern half was designated SR-4 as it was temporarily used as a routing of Interstate 70 during the time when the intersection of I-70 with I-15 was finished and open, but I-70 dead ended just a few miles east of that intersection. This PDF is confusing, which is why I understand you could read it and draw a different conclusion than me. Here's my logic:
  • Pages 1,3, 18 and 21 make it pretty clear all of modern SR-161 was actually an old routing of US-91 (SR-1) at one time, which makes sense as a mostly North-South road.
  • The map on page 31 does show the southern half as designated SR-4 (Interstate 70). Per the color coding on this map, and the accompanying letter on page 32, I'm going to assume this was a temporary designation. I back up that assumption with the following:
    • The color coding shows the transfers of highway designations caused by the recent completion of I-70 through the area. It is clearly visible how what is now the southern half SR-161 was used to connect the end of the finished portion of I-70 portion with the old two lane road, prior to the completion of the freeway.
    • The letter that accompanies this map on page 33 and to a lesser degree the letters on pages 28 and 23 support, but do not directly confirm this assumption.

Please advise if I have erred in my interpretation of this document. Regardless, I hope the other feedback is beneficial. Good luck!!! Dave (talk) 06:30, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

• Found another one. The 1961-1964 former alignment of SR-161 was an access road in Beaver, Utah, and not related to the current road at all. I updated the article to make this clear.